Your Concealed weapon is useless

At least, that's the claim that this video makes...Of course, I think the video is biased, giving someone several hours of training and expecting them to respond favorably to an active shooter isn't exactly a scientific evaluation. No time was given to build physical muscle memory or more importantly the mental prep that goes in to carrying a gun.



YouTube - Proof that Concealed Carry permit holders live in a dream world, Part One
 
Jesus Christ!

Thanks for the video. ABC is so full of it that I can't stand it.

Yes, many of us (those who carry and train regularly) might be killed in a real situation such as that. However, I'd rather be able to defend myself than to hunker down behind a desk unarmed.
 
Point is a good one about mind set and training. The rest is good ole PROPAGANDA.
They're right in the fact that MOST, to include LEO's, don't have the stress training to react in most combat situations. NOT sure how I'd react to the intensity myself except that;
Situational awareness keeps me alerted to people, places and things in my immediate surroundings.
A mind set that I will react to a threat with my mind first, weapon second.
If I draw, I shoot to center mass. Two rounds, check and repeat if necessary. Cognizant of my surroundings as always.
 
I do recall that being the case. At the very least, they knew what spot to look at, because each of the carriers was in the same location, every time.

They have to stage propaganda like this in order to get their point across, and it gets aired on public television. On the other hand, our countless "Armed Citizen" moments never seem to make it to National TV. The only ones that do, are usually when it's a CCW holder that f***ed up.

I still can't believe this trash, and what's worse is the ignorant are not going to know any better.
 
three times i have had to use my useless concealed weapon to thwart a would be alledged assailant and each time my useless concealed weapon caused the would be alledged assailants to flee. but considering my concealed weapon is useless the would be alledged assailants must have been frightened off by my looks or mabye my dedordent had failed resulting in body odor. perhaps the possibility that the police might come someday could also have caused the would be alledged assailants to flee. i guess the concealed weapon was useless unless you consider that after seeing my now unconcealed weapon pointing at their bodies the would be alledged assailants had to return home to wash their underwear thereby necessitating the purchasing of laundry soap and thereby helping the economy and in a small way helping a person in the laundry soap business keep their job. oh and possibly my wifes and my own lives were saved also.
 
^ Make sure to carry a gun you are unfamiliar with in a holster you are unfamiliar with while wearing gloves that wont fit in the trigger guard and an oversized wanna be rapper shirt while doing all this.
 
Completely agree with everyone here. Muscle memory is so important to a time=life situation such as the scenario they put these fresh students in. They had the shooter on the extreme end (trained Police officer). They should have used a CCW Instructor or CCW with verifiable advanced training if they wanted it to be fair.

Most 'active shooters' that I've read about seem to be mental cases not expert marksmen.
 
ABC Propaganda

Typical ABC propaganda. I wish ABC would stick to what it knows instead of finding fault in things they know nothing about. I have had to use my useless concealed carry gun to defend myself and my family and I don't think the perpetrators were too concerned whether I was capable of shooting them right there on the spot. I train regularly and my training is what allowed me to persevere in the above said situations. If you don't want to be shorn, don't be sheep! Train as you live and live as you train! Jeeesh, I get worked up when I see this kind of drivel. The above quote is spot on; unfamiliar gun, unfamiliar holster, gangsta tshirt and gloves. Not to mention a total tyro shooter. Why didn't they tie one hand behind his back as well?

Nuff said!
 
Main stream media is not going to air anything that doesn't push their agenda. I wouldn't expect anything different from them. It's quite apparent the cw holder was not familiar with his weapon. Even with a concealed weapon any nut ball intent on doing damage is most likely going to get one shot off before they are stopped unless you know in advance were the threat is. In that case the threat could be stopped before the damage is done.
 
I take it that the news story was shown after the safeway shooting, for full anti-gun effect. I got to see that federal officer shoot himself in the foot AGAIN with a "Glock 40." Saying that they gave more training that what 30 or so states require for a permit is a bit of a "straw man" arguement. It had some reasonable points, but for the most part, it just seems to be way too one-sided and quite out of context for my liking.
 
You can do the same thing in a class full of police officers. There is a time lag between when a BG starts shooting and the GG's brains have kicked in. You have to hope that you are not one of the first ones targeted. BG has the advantage to start with. We did the same thing 30+ years ago as a test to see if the class would even be able to give an accurate description of the fake attacker.
 
If the people were there for firearms training they should have know they were using paint, I mean what were they expecting to do with paint rounds kill the shooter.
 
If the people were there for firearms training they should have know they were using paint, I mean what were they expecting to do with paint rounds kill the shooter.

Excellent point. They make a big deal about how their training is more intensive than what 30 states require for carry permits. However, they did this guy, and us in a way, a disservice when they told him he was carrying a loaded handgun which he either did not check himself, or was not allowed to check it. Always assuming a gun is loaded is not the issue here!

A trained individual who does not know what is in his gun? Alas, the straw man reigns supreme in the state run media.
 
Oh wow the media is so right again! Remember the exploding gas tanks on the Chevy? 1/4 stick of dynamite will make 'em go off everytime!:sarcastic: The media is so anti gun biased that they set this up to read like you are in more danger in being armed than unarmed in this type of situation. As for me, I would rather be armed and have a slim fighting chance than be unarmed and just shot down. KNOW THY WEAPON....Practice, practice, practice,.... It is not a perfect world and the bad guy may get you, but at least you can answer to God that you did everything possible to save your life and maybe someone elses.
 
The gun is just the "tool", you have to know how to use the tool! Owning a drill or router doesn't make you qualified to use it well, that takes practice and gun handling requires the same kind of practice to develop muscle memory and good habits. IMHO, of course...
 
I take it that the news story was shown after the safeway shooting, for full anti-gun effect. I got to see that federal officer shoot himself in the foot AGAIN with a "Glock 40." Saying that they gave more training that what 30 or so states require for a permit is a bit of a "straw man" arguement. It had some reasonable points, but for the most part, it just seems to be way too one-sided and quite out of context for my liking.


IIRC, this was done after the VA Tech shootings. They did tell the shooter who would be armed, where they'd be sitting, and basically made every effort to make the novice lose. It was a giant sham that was brought to light fairly quickly after it was aired.

Of course, my useless CC gun isn't so useless when I'm OCing everywhere.
 
What a crock of sh*t! Next time I'll train while seated with a full-face helmet on, wearing a protective vest with a grippy long-sleeved t-shirt and and gloved hands. VERY realistic ABC. Very realistic indeed.

Meanwhile, the BG comes in with his weapon in place, knowing which student has the gun the entire time.

How the HELL is this realistic? Oh, wait, it's not. It's ABC & 20/20. The drive-bys have done another bang-up job trafficing their leftist, gun-hating agenda. Way to go Diane!

In a real gun fight, it's going to be nearly impossible for the BG to figure out which civilian(s) is/are armed. He'll be concentrating on his vicks. In the 20/20 scenario, the game was fixed with the BG knowing where his primary and secondary targets were each time. To be more realistic, they would have moved the armed student around to make him harder to spot.
 
A long time ago my brother introduced me to the game "Stratego". Quickly surmising that he would expect me to hide my flag (the goal) behind a bunch of bombs I placed my flag, unprotected in one corner and the bombs in a protective pattern, in the other. Once he found one bomb he threw soldier after soldier at that corner.

I won.

I wonder what would have happened if the trainee, thinking creatively, would have changed seats with one of the other classmates. I KNOW! Wouldn't have been shown.
 

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