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When the need for self defense arises the loudest sound in the world is "click." It may be the last sound one ever hears. I have a G17 with well over 50,000 rounds through it. Not a single failure of any kind during it's entire life. Now I won't push them on others as no gun is perfect for everyone, but there is no one with a "junk-gun" argument that holds water. I own several and routinely shoot one inch groups at 25 yards. It's usually not the gun that causes a miss, it's the lack of fundamentals. In a self-defense situation a bulls-eye is anywhere within an eight inch circle... upper COM of course. Pretty much ANY gun will do that.