Would you have pulled/used your sidearm in this situation?

Would you have pulled/used your firearm in this case?


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The_Outlaw

~The Dude Abides~
A very bad case of road rage imho.


What say you?
Would you have pulled/used your firearm in this situation?
 
The guy seem to be insane--- What ever happened, the guy had 'much' time to calm down.
The driver did everthing he could to 'not' use deadly force.
Ken did the right thing------------head for the police station.
Ken wins the count case !!
 
Everytime I see one of these videos I always think its a good time to put my dash cam back on my car.
I probably would have pulled (but tried not to use) on him or run him over when he jumped on the hood...
 
I'm glad here in AZ, we now have the right to draw our weapon on order to dissipate a violent circumstance. In this case though, I still wouldn't have used my gun due to the fact that I (he) was able to retreat (Even though we are not obligated to do so). If he had, in fact broken down on the side of the road, he then would have no other choice but to use deadly force to protect himself.
 
It's in Australia. Are they allowed to have "defensive" firearms in their vehicles?

If the same situation happened to me I would pull my gun, especially after I took off and he came after me.
 
I would have considered it an attack with a deadly weapon the first time he ran into my vehicle. If he managed to get me stopped and I had no other choice, I would have defended myself, with no hesitation.

I hope the driver of the truck is charged with attempted murder, along with all the other moving violations.

The attacked driver did try to retreat, numerous times, but was pursued by his crazed attacker. After retreat was unsuccessful, I certainly would have been in fear of my life when stopped and confronted like that. If he was able to break-out the windshield, and gain access to the cabin, lethal force would be justified.

An absolutely incredible dash-cam video!
 
I feel as though he did the right thing in doing everything he possibly could to avoid the angry driver. With that said, if I/he were put in a position where I/he could not escape, then I would not hesitate drawing my weapon and using it if the attacker did not retreat.
 
From what I saw on the video I would have pulled my gun. But imagine if the other guy had a gun. From the moron's actions he should never be allowed to ever be near any firearm!
 
I THINK I would have used it when he broke the windshield. With that being said, no one really knows what they will do until they are in the situation themselves. I WOULD have had mine out though. If I broke down and had no choice but to get out of the car rather than being trapped, my choices for survival would be severely limited and this guy would lose. In retrospect, the best choice was to drive to a police station (and avoid the liability and trauma of UOF) but it would have been better if the driver had a way to protect himself.
 
I think the first time he hit me, I would have given him the benefit of the doubt that it was truly an accident. But the moment he jumped out and rushed the car, I would have unholstered my weapon. Anyone using a vehicle as a weapon is a danger to everyone on the road and I believe it would be justifiable to pull my gun.

What I can't believe is that a former police officer ran like a *****. You'd think he has the training to deal with an assbag like this guy since cops are disarmed in England. Guess not.
 
I would have gotten my gun out of the holster just in case, but I wouldn't have pointed it at him unless I needed to. But I wouldn't have had to go through all that either. My truck would have made a meal out of his vehicle.
 
I would have gotten my gun out of the holster just in case, but I wouldn't have pointed it at him unless I needed to. But I wouldn't have had to go through all that either. My truck would have made a meal out of his vehicle.

I know what you mean! If he attempted to slam the brakes on in front of mine I probably woulda smushed his lol Big trucks brake slow.
 
I'm actually shocked that 80-some % voted for pulling a weapon on an unarmed man, but only 16 people voted. :)

He wasn't unarmed. He used a 3-4000 pound vehicle as a weapon then proceeded to smash the window with his fists.

So are you implying that an unarmed man isn't dangerous? Come to my dojo if that's your attitude.
 
I'm actually shocked that 80-some % voted for pulling a weapon on an unarmed man, but only 16 people voted. :)
Unarmed men commit murders all the time, so the only thing shocking is that you are apparently operating under the delusion that someone must have a weapon in order to be a threat. And the poll said "pulled/used". There was no option for drawn but not pointed or used, which is the response most people gave.
 
I think he did absolutely everything right.. He was lucky he was on a freeway and could drive away when they guy jumped on his windshield. If I was in a parking or a congested space and couldn't get away, and that guy had have pulled that I absolutely would've drawn and fired. He's lucky he had a cam, who would've ever believed that.
 
He wasn't unarmed. He used a 3-4000 pound vehicle as a weapon then proceeded to smash the window with his fists.

So are you implying that an unarmed man isn't dangerous? Come to my dojo if that's your attitude.

When he was on the hood, he no longer was armed with the vehicle (therefore unarmed), and if you watched the video the man that was on the hood, was not the driver, therefore he was never armed with that vehicle..

If you are suggesting you should start shooting at the moving vehicle, I would take umbrage with that too.

This victim in the video, IMO, did everything right. He tried to remove himself from the situation at every turn and did it successfully. If at some point he could not remove himself from the situation, my opinion may change. However, that didn't happen, therefore this would just be conjecture.

And reread my post... I never said an unarmed man isn't dangerous. I will say that if my vehicle is running, and I'm in it, and there is an unarmed man punching my vehicle, I will hit the gas pedal and leave like this driver did. I would not pull my weapon on him. The only time I will ever pull my weapon is when I'm prepared to use it. This situation did not, IMO, deserve killing the man on the hood.

I also don't think just displaying a firearm is a bright idea... again, if you pull a firearm, be prepared to pull that trigger. Had this gentleman shot the other guy, I believe he would be the one going to jail.


And again, isn't this Australia?
 
Never quite find out how or what really started this. Does not condone anything that happened but it would be nice to know what "really started" this crazy story. Personally you have your best defense being in the car and you do try to get to police station. Based on what I saw especially when he got to the car and began on the window I definitely would have presumed imminent danger to my life or body and that would have left me with two options. He did not appear from the video to have a firearm and at that moment, if I were CC, I would have had my firearm in my hand ready to "stop him" (I cannot get over those two words when I aim a firearm at someone's chest---I am aiming to kill him--pure and simple--but that is another story). The other solution would be my car--as soon as he came rampaging toward me, I could just run him down---I somehow get the feeling this would be worse than shooting him---just a more difficult action with more options for an attorney or authorities (ie why not just evade, back up etc etc--did you really have to "gun it" and run him down?). At least if you shoot him, you have made a clear and unmistakable "presumption" under the law.
 
Never quite find out how or what really started this. Does not condone anything that happened but it would be nice to know what "really started" this crazy story.

I agree....I'm also wondering what really set that dude off to such a boiling point?

Imagine if the driver truly was innocent and it was just some case of mistaken identity?

I have had the unfortunate experience of a complete stranger road raging and chase me before for no reason whatsoever.
Some people just seem 'lose it' sometimes for whatever reason and then they decide to take it out on other people I guess.

I'm thinking that a 'dash camera' is a very good tool to have inside our vehicles.
 

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