Would you ban guns or other arms anywhere? And, if so, what kinds?


BoomChick

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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." -http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment02/

arm[3] 1 a: a means (as a weapon) of offense or defense ; especially : firearm
firearm : a weapon from which a shot is discharged by gunpowder —usually used of small arms
Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online

I want to know if there is any location that you would allow firearms to be prohibited were it your choice and why or why not.

And, by anywhere, I mean anywhere.

Jails?
CIA headquarters?
Some other place?

Also, what weapons would you want banned, if any, if you could choose which "arms" were and were not banned for the general population.

A-10 Warthog?
WMD?
Some other weapon?

Where is your line for small arms?
Would you be less than thrilled if I was picnic'ing in a public park with a 50 cal on my blankie?

As silly as these questions may seem, I'm hoping to get a feel for where the boundaries might be among the folks on this board.

-BoomChick

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"The District may not attempt to solve its crime problems by violating the rights of law-abiding citizens." -- Robert Levy
 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." -http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment02/

arm[3] 1 a: a means (as a weapon) of offense or defense ; especially : firearm
firearm : a weapon from which a shot is discharged by gunpowder —usually used of small arms
Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online

I want to know if there is any location that you would allow firearms to be prohibited were it your choice and why or why not.

And, by anywhere, I mean anywhere.

Jails?
CIA headquarters?
Some other place?

Also, what weapons would you want banned, if any, if you could choose which "arms" were and were not banned for the general population.

A-10 Warthog?
WMD?
Some other weapon?

Where is your line for small arms?
Would you be less than thrilled if I was picnic'ing in a public park with a 50 cal on my blankie?

As silly as these questions may seem, I'm hoping to get a feel for where the boundaries might be among the folks on this board.

-BoomChick

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"The District may not attempt to solve its crime problems by violating the rights of law-abiding citizens." -- Robert Levy


I'm not comfortable answering question like this based on the fact that 1) This is your first post. 2) Your profile lacks the basic personal info. 3) These are the kinds of probing questions that I would typically see from folks that are not 2A friendly. 4) I highly doubt that you took the time to read through some of the other stuff that's already been posted and responded to. 5) The name "BoomChick" gives me that JDLR feeling (Just Doesn't Look Right). 6) I'd like to hear about who you are and why you're here before I give any serious consideration to such a loaded question.

I will however offer you this answer:

I feel that firearms should be prohibited from being taken on the underwater portion of any SCUBA diving activity. Safety is my biggest concern being that since most firearms aren't designed to be fired underwater, doing so would be both ineffective as well as dangerous.

With that said, please post some details about yourself and your interests. I've been on this board for a while and have seen many folks asking similar questions to "stir the pot". If you're one of those types, I won't get pulled in to your silly antics. If you're sincere about being here and would like to learn about the firearms community, I'd be more than happy to offer my opinions and/or advice.



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johnsteele

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Anywhere a police or federal officer is prohibited. Other than that no restrictions

I am a law abiding citizen and I object to being treated as if I am some sort of dangerous criminal-in-waiting just because I don't have a badge.
 
Anywhere a police or federal officer is prohibited. Other than that no restrictions

I am a law abiding citizen and I object to being treated as if I am some sort of dangerous criminal-in-waiting just because I don't have a badge.

Great answer! I've gotta remember that one. :wink:



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toreskha

Titles are un-American.
The only restriction I can think of is that passengers carrying on aircraft should be required to use highly frangible ammunition. Depressurization in mid-air sucks.

Otherwise, I can't think of any good reason to restrict firearms anywhere else, including CIA HQ. You have to walk back to your car and drive home at some point, right?
 
The only restriction I can think of is that passengers carrying on aircraft should be required to use highly frangible ammunition. Depressurization in mid-air sucks.

Otherwise, I can't think of any good reason to restrict firearms anywhere else, including CIA HQ. You have to walk back to your car and drive home at some point, right?

The depressurization theory is a myth. There is a hole on the top of the plane that is part of the system that regulates the pressure inside of the plane. They tried it on "Mythbusters" and couldn't make the plane depressurize due to a bullet hole. I don't know of any cases where a bullet has caused a plane to rip apart and depressurize in flight. Here's an article with more information: Link Removed


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Scarecrow

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Anywhere a police or federal officer is prohibited. Other than that no restrictions

I am a law abiding citizen and I object to being treated as if I am some sort of dangerous criminal-in-waiting just because I don't have a badge.

+1 to that.. good answer
 
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boyzoi

Guest
Would you be less than thrilled if I was picnic'ing in a public park with a 50 cal on my blankie?


I usually take my stinger on picnics......so no, your .50 wont bother me.:drag:
 

capo2186

New member
This is the first time on this forum that a first post made me un-easy. I unfortunatly would love to respond to this, but that post really gave me a weird feeling. Sorry.

You guys can flame me if need be.
 

HK4U

New member
Perhaps we should ban the 1st Amendment to keep people from asking dumb questions designed to bate people.
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
The depressurization theory is a myth. There is a hole on the top of the plane that is part of the system that regulates the pressure inside of the plane. They tried it on "Mythbusters" and couldn't make the plane depressurize due to a bullet hole. I don't know of any cases where a bullet has caused a plane to rip apart and depressurize in flight. Here's an article with more information: Link Removed


gf

Nevertheless, for that very reason, Federal Air Marshals must meet higher handgun proficiency standards than just about any other law enforcement officer anywhere.
 

KimberPB

New member
I'm with you guys, interesting question to post for your first post. Hopefully we will hear a little more from Boomchick.

All I'll say at this point is this:
We already have many "Gun Free" Zones and we've seen how well they have stop mass shooting from happening.
 

BoomChick

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Who is BoomChick, and why am I here?

Who I am. Well, I'm not sure how to answer that, but I hope the following helps.
I am a gun-loving, dog-loving, heterosexual, Christian, Georgia peach, who used to hack computers for money, but returned to college instead. I have a .45 USP-C, a CZ-52, and an AK-47. Not exactly a collection, but I love them all for different reasons. I have a carry permit and like Galco holsters. About 5'1", brown hair. . . Don't know my blood type. . . *wink*

It was not my intention to ask a loaded question. There's no intent to bait anyone, but looking back I can see how I was misinterpreted. I'm a little curious as to why some folks here are unwilling to give their opinion to a stranger. But, I hope to not be a stranger for long!

I'm trying to figure out where my own boundaries are and wanted to interact with some folks who wouldn't bore me with the "people shouldn't have guns in the first place" argument. It often helps me to hear the reasons other people believe what they do when I'm trying to nail down a personal rationale. I'm thinking this is a good place for that, but my apologies for not following protocol. :to_pick_ones_nose:
I can work on that.

I often wonder about the term "arms" and what we, as a nation, should take that to mean.

It's my temptation to think that "arms" means "arms", not just small arms. And that prohibiting people from taking their weapons to certain places is an infringement, plain and simple. But, I'm worried I'm taking it too far. I want help thinking this through.

I did search the forum, but didn't find much on this topic directly -- most likely I'm searching poorly. Any help would be appreciated.

I thought the answer of "wherever cops are allowed to carry" was very interesting. It always upset me that I was supposed to disarm myself before entering the DMV -- where there is often no expectation of someone else providing for my well-being-- or any effort to make sure that everyone else is disarmed. And, I get uneasy when I'm legally supposed to depend solely on the police for protection. Most officers that I've met have been mighty fine people (blessed, I guess), but there's always one or two that might not have taken the job for the right reasons.

Anyway, time to stop rambling. I'm really looking forward to some more answers and forming my own personal philosophy regarding these questions.

I chose boomchick for several reasons. I like some things that go "boom", such as guns and certain computer programs. ;) And, I'm a chick -- as in female.

-BoomChick
 

rmarcustrucker

New member
I say for concealed carry, if you can pick it up...you should be able to own it and shoot it. So that puts weapons that can be mounted on gun boats and aircraft off my list.
 
This is the first time on this forum that a first post made me un-easy. I unfortunatly would love to respond to this, but that post really gave me a weird feeling. Sorry.

You guys can flame me if need be.


It wasn't "just" the post that made me uneasy. It was the "totality" of the circumstances. I summed it up in my previous response.


gf
 
Perhaps we should ban the 1st Amendment to keep people from asking dumb questions designed to bate people.

I don't object to people asking "dumb" questions. What I don't like are folks who come to a group and attempt to prey on the less informed. Who knows what this person's intention is. Had she provided some background info on herself, maybe I would be a little more at ease.


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HK4U

New member
I don't object to people asking "dumb" questions. What I don't like are folks who come to a group and attempt to prey on the less informed. Who knows what this person's intention is. Had she provided some background info on herself, maybe I would be a little more at ease.


gf

Exactly. There are always those that want to try and start an argument with all the "what ifs".
 

toreskha

Titles are un-American.
The depressurization theory is a myth. There is a hole on the top of the plane that is part of the system that regulates the pressure inside of the plane. They tried it on "Mythbusters" and couldn't make the plane depressurize due to a bullet hole. I don't know of any cases where a bullet has caused a plane to rip apart and depressurize in flight. Here's an article with more information: Link Removed


gf
A single hole through the skin may not do anything (although I wouldn't want to try), but it could make a much bigger hole in a window. You also don't want to end up hitting something vital, like wiring for control surfaces or an O2 tank, which is possible with FMJ rounds.

I've actually never seen a movie where cabin depressurization occurred due to flying bullets; I had made the assumption based on the use of Glasers by air marshals. Maybe I don't watch enough movies.
 

toreskha

Titles are un-American.
I don't object to people asking "dumb" questions. What I don't like are folks who come to a group and attempt to prey on the less informed. Who knows what this person's intention is. Had she provided some background info on herself, maybe I would be a little more at ease.


gf
If an obvious hippie came up to you and started asking questions, would you hesitate to give him or her your honest opinion?

I'd tell an Obama hippie communist the same thing I'd tell Charlton Heston's ghost - firearm ownership is a human right, and anyone not limited by mental illness or a history of violent felonies should be able to reserve the right to exercise it to an absolute degree - except for slight adjustments in specific circumstances like air and spacecraft, where I don't want FMJ rounds flying through equipment critical to my getting back on the ground safely.
 

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