Would ****'s Sporting Goods Sell Me a Used Rifle as New ?

indyyy

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Bought a Marlin 795 22 rifle a couple months ago for my girlfriend to shoot at the range. The manual says since modern ammo is fairly clean the barrell rarely needs cleaned and to clean the action every 200 rounds. The rifle needs an unusual size hex key to break it down and it took me awhile to find one. It did sit for about 3 weeks in it's box in normal weather. We had only fired about 175 rounds through it and I cleaned it yesterday - The action had alot of carbon buildup - alot more than I would expect after 200 rounds thru a new rifle.

Would a chain like Dicks sell a used rifle as new ?
 
Bought a Marlin 795 22 rifle a couple months ago for my girlfriend to shoot at the range. The manual says since modern ammo is fairly clean the barrell rarely needs cleaned and to clean the action every 200 rounds. The rifle needs an unusual size hex key to break it down and it took me awhile to find one. It did sit for about 3 weeks in it's box in normal weather. We had only fired about 175 rounds through it and I cleaned it yesterday - The action had alot of carbon buildup - alot more than I would expect after 200 rounds thru a new rifle.

Would a chain like Dicks sell a used rifle as new ?

They might, but I doubt it.

Are you sure it was "carbon buildup," or could it have just been normal unburned gunpowder and/or residue that can be visible on cleaning p a t c h e s after just a round or two goes downrange?

When I think of carbon buildup, especially on and around the action like you mentioned, I'm thinking of something that is scraped off as opposed to wiped or brushed. What did it take to get it off? Scraping, wiping or brushing? If it wiped off with a bit of solvent on a brush or p a t c h, that's normal after having fired 175 rounds downrange. Carbon buildup is normal too on rifles, but any discernible amount would be abnormal after only 175 rounds I would think. If wiped, don't fret, that's normal. If it needed any real elbow grease to remove, your suspicion may have merit.

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.22 ammo just seems to be messier than other ammo imo. Just loading a mag turns your fingers gray.

Did you clean the gun before you fired it? I thought some or maybe all manufactures put a good thick coating of protective oil on their firearms so they won't develop any rust while they are transported and stored for who knows how many months. That heavy protective coating of oil could hold on to a bit more residue than what you would expect to see.
 
My Marlin Model 60 has probably 1000 rounds through it. (158 confirmed Squirrel kills) and I haven't cleaned it once. JUZ saying. Might be the ammo your shooting OR your breach (slide bolt) is not closing fully and allowing blow back. Take it up with service. Marlin is a dam good name. They will support service claims.
 
Much of it came off with a patch and solvent, but I did need to use a wire brush to get some off too. Could have been the rounds like Paul mentions - didn't know .22 were messier. The action seemed kind or sticky the last time we shot - even one of the guys who manages the shooting range noticed it. I'll see how it does now that it's been cleaned and won't write dicks off yet. I did get it on sale when two of the 3 local dicks stores were out and didn't know if they would be getting more - so thought it might have been one someone bought and returned.
 
I was taught that every firearm should be cleaned before shooting the first time, whether it is brand new or just new to you. Brand new to get rid of machining residue and oil used for preservative and just new to you because you don't know what the previous owner had done or not done.
 
I was taught that every firearm should be cleaned before shooting the first time, whether it is brand new or just new to you. Brand new to get rid of machining residue and oil used for preservative and just new to you because you don't know what the previous owner had done or not done.

Agreed, having worked at a large gun store I have seen a number of very dirty guns coming from manufacturers and distributors as new stock... sometimes they test fire them and maybe its 1 or 2 rounds, or maybe the gunsmith notices a hitch and puts 100 rounds through the weapon before deciding if its acceptable... they don't always get cleaned before they get boxed and shipped.
 

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