wifes views are changing, need help!


I'm from Washington state and some years back there was a kid with an assault rifle that was walking through the tacoma mall shooting at everything that moved, during the attack he held up and took hostages and people started calling the news. One lady was saying that herself and her husband saw the kid and her husband pulled out his handgun as they ran to get away but he never fired. That got me to thinking, being a mall close to an army and air force base, how many people that day were packing? It amazed me that not 1 person fired back at him. I know the goal is to get away safely, but so many lives were ruined and taken that day. It still bothers me today just thinking about it
I'm not sure what the closeness of the bases has to do with it. We can't carry on base, only in a box in the trunk to and from the range with no stops in between. Also law abiding people won't carry in the mall since it against their policy. Posted by the entrances. But back to topic. Like others said, take her to a range that has loaner guns. I'm not sure where you are located, but there are women only gun courses like "Women On Target".
 

Because it makes them feel more sexier? Don't misunderstand me. I do not own a pink Glock and never will. It is just me. I am talking about the other side me who questions pink gun ownership too, why I do not like it...There are more womanly woman out there than I am. They like pink guns...and accessories. My first gun made me felt like I am more macho, "I now own a gun" attitude. My Glock made me feel I should be and must be a responsible gun owner because it can shoot easily. My CCWs gave me those responsibility to shut up. None of these are pink either.:no:

Everyone better watch imposing these gender roles: I like the purple ones! Besides, I might save a life if BG sees my 6'4" self pull a purple gun on him. He starts laughing his butt off and I take him with no shots fired...what's wrong with that??? :yu: :sarcastic:
 
Everyone better watch imposing these gender roles: I like the purple ones! Besides, I might save a life if BG sees my 6'4" self pull a purple gun on him. He starts laughing his butt off and I take him with no shots fired...what's wrong with that??? :yu: :sarcastic:
Good shot!???!!!????:laugh:
 
I have to say that the comments in this thread are so thoughtful. I am a flaming liberal who never owned a gun until 50+ years of age. I do now because of all the reasons you already know. My husband was the one who said we should do this and he didn't mean just for himself. He spent weeks discussing why it was just as important for me to have and know how to use a firearm as him. I was frightened by the whole idea. But he calmly and patiently discussed it with me for weeks. We went for training, did lots of reading, and what surprised me most (as a liberal who had the typical guns are unnecessary for average citizens) was the kind of talk that I see in this post. Rational, sane, logical, thoughtful, considerate, non-macho, talk. I am amazed at how my view of guns and "gun-toting" people was so skewed. And I know it's because of a) the media (movies and tv portrayal of the use of weapons is just odd sometimes) and b) because no one in my family owned or used or talked about guns as a form of self-protection.

I have always had a knee-jerk negative reaction to the kinds of rhetoric from gun lobby organizations or single issue organizations. Of course now I see the value in them, but my point is their arguments never convinced me. This kind of discussion, calm and rational, is what contributed to my change of heart. So the advice given here about taking your time to discuss your particular issue with your wife and bringing her into the training and getting her comfortable with the gun culture, seems very sound to me.

Xenaxdsc, I wanted to thank you so much for posting your situation. I wish you could have found out what you did sooner in life, but at least you can now enjoy our sport like we do and you now know that we are not as portrayed in the media and the anti-gun lobby. I took your post as a compliment to all of our forum and its members and style and I think we should be proud that our method of discussion was instrumental in convincing you that we are worth consideration over the rhetoric.

It is so uplifting when someone sees all of us for what we really are: The millions of Husbands & wives, Mothers & Fathers, neighbors and friends you see every day that just want to exercise what the Founding Fathers originally told us we could. I hope for more and more realizations like this one every day. Maybe if we keep working at it, more and more will become as brave as Xenaxdsc!
 
For most women, I believe the issue is a combination of ignorance and fear. The best way to address those issues is education, woman to woman. The NRA sponsors a terrific program called Women on Target. If you have one in your area, I highly recommend it for your wife, and encourage her to take a friend.

Attending that one-day class changed my life in a dramatic way. My understanding of firearms increased about a hundred-fold. I went from being afraid to be in a room with a firearm to knowing exactly which gun I wanted for my own. Now, two and a half years later, I own several firearms, shoot IPSC, practice regularly, and carry everywhere I can legally carry. I am also a certified firearms instructor. One of my favorite things to do is to work with women who are in the position I used to be. I always stress that it's not necessary for them to become as big a gun nut as I've become, but it is essential that they understand how to handle a firearm safely and competently.

And I have to agree with JohnLM - I have no idea why gun manufacturers think that women would want a pink or a purple gun. It strikes me as condescending and presumptuous - as if the most important thing a woman would want in a gun is color coordination. I want a gun as powerful and intimidating as I am able to handle competently, thus - my favorite - a nitron finish full size 1911 .45 ACP.

I believe there are many more women like me out there who are just waiting to discover how fun and powerful it is to master firearms. Gun and holster manufacturers are incredibly foolish to ignore that nascent market.

I read this and I just can't decide if I want to yell, "Rock on!!!" or, "You go, Girl!!!" :biggrin: :laugh:
 
I'm sorry... pink guns and pink tools just undermine the attempt at gender equality. (and look pretty damned stupid to boot)
 
Headline will read, "Man takes crook with Purple Gun and no shots fired" - it just can't be any better pro-gun press than that! Tucker's Mom, back me up with the Hello Kitty AR and we'll do a photo shoot!
OK...I am backing you up...can we do the photo shoot with shooting a photo with flour bombs or water balloons. We don't need no stinkin' purple or pink guns... :biggrin::biggrin: Bring the photo of your dearest enemy, I'll fly you up in my luscombe and we can do some flour bombing or smash some water balloons.:biggrin:That will be more fun!!!
 
I'm sorry... pink guns and pink tools just undermine the attempt at gender equality. (and look pretty damned stupid to boot)
Aw come on...sometimes the most sensible simple idea is the best that could ever happened to someone...take that! TekGreg's idea is very simple and who knows ... might be effective too. It creates momentary distraction and if he draw as quick as he think, then he is already ahead of the crook. Ever thought of that?

Now, I am going out to buy me a bright red Glock if I can find one...:biggrin: Catch up with you later.:girl_wink:
 
Yeah I've already signed us up for the next class. That's about the best advice I think I can get and just give it time. I'm sure the more time goes on without incident the more comfortable she will feel

The lectures at Front Sight for either of the two or four day handgun classes will reassure her in regards to you and/or her carrying. I hope you follow through and go.

The "Saddlewest" hotel/casino is the best place to stay in the area around Front Sight. For a few dollars they will pack you a "front sight lunch" with your choice of everything in regard to the sandwiches, fruit, drinks, etc, in the lunch. They have an outdooor pool to, of course. They have 'no guns' on the doors, but who the ******* are they kidding?
 
What I would advise you to tell your wife is what I tell my wife. Most people do not plan on being a victim, but they also don't plan on being a survivor either. You never know what is going to wash up on your beach, so it is better to be prepared than to be overwhelmed.
MR
 
1) Your wife needs to find new friends. Avoid low-life and you avoid problems.

2) A knife is a deadly weapon. At the very least you should have called the police on the perp for brandishing and intimidation.

3) Consider getting a non-lethal weapon to carry along with your handgun. It gives you options.
 
Haha six so true sir! That was years ago and since then I've taught her that just because they are old friends doesn't make them good ones! As far as the second weapon I went with key chain mace. During that whole incident I wasn't intimidated at any time, especially once I got distance on him. I'm sober and he was sloppy drunk, he most likely would have stabbed himself. I've always had some weird jedi force trick that allows me to stay focused during panicky situations
 
JohnLM:227713 said:
I have asked myself often. Why would any woman want to carry a pink gun??
Local ffl told me the best part of a pink gun is if you ever had to use it, your opponent will die laughing at it and you won't even have to shoot him
 
I agree with magmoore, I'm more reserved when I'm packing. I have been in a situation where if I hadn't have had my gun, I would have been more vocal or agressive with how I was treated, but since I have a gun, I realize the responsibility and avoid it altogether. It puts me into a more relaxed state and I feel more safe and it makes me feel good knowing that I can protect my wife and kids no matter what happens in most cases. It did take some getting use to at first because you feel like everybody can see your gun, but you get used to it. Now, I feel naked if I didn't have a gun. I wish one of those guys in that IHop would have had a gun, maybe they would be here today.

BG's can smell fear or timidity and seek out their prey. Your calm exudes a confidence that they avoid liked plague. Even martial artists who carry that confidence are rarely accosted.
 
As far as the second weapon I went with key chain mace.

I've been maced (second-hand and not by choice) by the police twice. You either become immune to it or you develop a sensitivity (which is what I did). Find out before you attempt to use it. Personally I hate the stuff. It's too easy to get a face full and incapacitating yourself. Plus, on a keychain it does you no good if someone's trying to carjack you while you are entering your vehicle or while you are driving. JMHO.
 
After reading post #1, I believe reality set in on the wife. I don't find that unusual, as I believe there are people who carry without realizing that some day they may have to make the decision to Stand and Deliver.
 
After reading post #1, I believe reality set in on the wife. I don't find that unusual, as I believe there are people who carry without realizing that some day they may have to make the decision to Stand and Deliver.

JSD, sorry, I guess I need some clarification on the word "reality." His original question had him, in his wife's eyes, murdering her drunken friend while he was sober had he been armed. I guess I didn't see that as a reality for any law-abiding weapon carrier.
 

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