BluesStringer
Les Brers
So I read through the thread about what guns you'll take when you bug out, and I was surprised to see so many people actually thinking that they even may bug out. I've spent considerable time and money taking survival and bushcraft classes, mostly just because I enjoy the outdoors and it gives me an excuse to get out and use some of my knife collection and other gear that I've accumulated, but it has taught me that the very last thing I ever want to do is have to survive in the wild.
I see a bunch of people saying that they'd be taking a rifle, a shotgun, a .22 lr and a combat pistol, and a few hundred rounds of ammo for each, and I'm wondering if those folks have a destination pre-planned, or have a bug-out location where friends and family are going to meet up to pool their resources, and what exactly they envision as the reason for bugging out in the first place?
For those who have never taken any training in bug-out-style survival, I suggest you take a course or two....a real one, like Link Removed, which is a subsidiary of ESEE Knives. We (my wife and I) have taken two of their primitive survival courses, and I'm here to tell ya that you ain't gonna be holding off a platoon of National Guardsmen if the SHTF for very long if you're truly "bugged out." It's going to take every calorie you can scrounge up to stay alive, and "staying alive" doesn't mean fighting as much as it means building or finding adequate shelter, being able to start a fire with minimal calorie expenditure, knowing how to find and sanitize water, being prepared with topo maps and knowing how to navigate with a compass via the path of least resistance (geographically-speaking), and that's all before you even get to the really hard job of hunting and foraging for replacement calories.
The training was fun as Hell and very useful for learning how to survive while you find your way back to civilization if you get lost in the woods, or you're among survivors of a plane crash or train wreck in the middle of nowhere, something like that. But bugging out is not a long-term solution to civil upheaval. Let's face it, very few of us are as resourceful as an Eric Rudolph, or as able to live a primitive life-style for months or years at a time like Ted Kaczynski, and even if we were like them, they both got caught in the end. If whatever part of "Uncle Sam" is left wants you, they'll find you, whether you're suckin' down cold ones on your porch when they come a' lookin', or if they have to hunt you down like the aforementioned bombers and murderers.
We'll be buggin' in, not out. I'm not saying a workable plan for surviving by bugging out can't be formulated, I'm just saying that I haven't been shown any advantage to living like an animal being hunted by a run-amok quasi-government force that I can't better prepare to defend against by fortifying my home than by exposing ourselves to hunger and the elements while always having to stay on the run.
Thus my question that is the title of this thread, "Why, When, Where & How Are you Planning on Bugging Out?"
Blues
I see a bunch of people saying that they'd be taking a rifle, a shotgun, a .22 lr and a combat pistol, and a few hundred rounds of ammo for each, and I'm wondering if those folks have a destination pre-planned, or have a bug-out location where friends and family are going to meet up to pool their resources, and what exactly they envision as the reason for bugging out in the first place?
For those who have never taken any training in bug-out-style survival, I suggest you take a course or two....a real one, like Link Removed, which is a subsidiary of ESEE Knives. We (my wife and I) have taken two of their primitive survival courses, and I'm here to tell ya that you ain't gonna be holding off a platoon of National Guardsmen if the SHTF for very long if you're truly "bugged out." It's going to take every calorie you can scrounge up to stay alive, and "staying alive" doesn't mean fighting as much as it means building or finding adequate shelter, being able to start a fire with minimal calorie expenditure, knowing how to find and sanitize water, being prepared with topo maps and knowing how to navigate with a compass via the path of least resistance (geographically-speaking), and that's all before you even get to the really hard job of hunting and foraging for replacement calories.
The training was fun as Hell and very useful for learning how to survive while you find your way back to civilization if you get lost in the woods, or you're among survivors of a plane crash or train wreck in the middle of nowhere, something like that. But bugging out is not a long-term solution to civil upheaval. Let's face it, very few of us are as resourceful as an Eric Rudolph, or as able to live a primitive life-style for months or years at a time like Ted Kaczynski, and even if we were like them, they both got caught in the end. If whatever part of "Uncle Sam" is left wants you, they'll find you, whether you're suckin' down cold ones on your porch when they come a' lookin', or if they have to hunt you down like the aforementioned bombers and murderers.
We'll be buggin' in, not out. I'm not saying a workable plan for surviving by bugging out can't be formulated, I'm just saying that I haven't been shown any advantage to living like an animal being hunted by a run-amok quasi-government force that I can't better prepare to defend against by fortifying my home than by exposing ourselves to hunger and the elements while always having to stay on the run.
Thus my question that is the title of this thread, "Why, When, Where & How Are you Planning on Bugging Out?"
Blues
