Why two states’ permits are such hot tickets for concealed-carry crowd

Utah & Florida are two of the best permits out there. At last count they were valid in 33 & 31 States, respectively. Neither are valid in Nevada which has been a business killer since they dropped the Utah permit last year. Hopefully they will reconsider when they do their assessment this year.
I have traveled all over the country to teach the Utah BCI class. Most people opt for the Utah over Florida due to class time (4 hours vs. all day) and the fees to the State ($65 vs. $200+/-), but a few want both so we teach both courses.

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I got the Florida "hot ticket" but the Utah I would have to take their course. None of my other qualifications will work with Utah.
 
I got the Florida, New Hampshire, and Virginia "hot tickets" but the Utah I would have to take their course. None of my other qualifications will work with Utah.
 
Because NY doesn't reciprocal gun laws with any state and the other state don't have reciprocal laws with them. So if I want to go outside of NY then I have to leave my weapon at home in NY.:fie::fie:
 
Talk about a bias report! This so called news article had numerous quotes from anti's and only one or two pro 2A comments and you had to wade through the whole article to find them. Just what you'd expect from msnbc.com.
 
Non-resident permits

Utah & Florida are two of the best permits out there. At last count they were valid in 33 & 31 States, respectively. Neither are valid in Nevada which has been a business killer since they dropped the Utah permit last year. Hopefully they will reconsider when they do their assessment this year.
I have traveled all over the country to teach the Utah BCI class. Most people opt for the Utah over Florida due to class time (4 hours vs. all day) and the fees to the State ($65 vs. $200+/-), but a few want both so we teach both courses.

TIBA LLC

You have to be careful of the "33 reciprocal" number because some states do not recognise the non-resident permits.
 
The "Big 3", IMO would be Florida, Utah and Nevada. With FL, you get a whole bunch of states as well as the state of FL if you're not a resident of UT. The state of UT will give you everything that the state of FL does with the addition of WA. The state of NV does not recognize the UT CFP or FL CWL, so if you're a frequent traveler to NV, that would be another permit to maintain.

With the above listed permits, assuming you're not a resident of FL, UT or NV, you will be good in approx. 30 different states at this point in time. I advise my students to get and maintain as many CC licenses/permits as they can afford. State laws constantly change. What may be good today, might not be good when you need it 6 months from now. Having a wide range of options increases the probability that you will have a CC permit/license will work in a particular state you're planning to visit.

Check the state laws BEFORE traveling. Be sure that you understand the law and know what is and what isn't allowed. Finding out "street side" from a LEO isn't the way you want things to go down.



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Utah & Florida are two of the best permits out there. At last count they were valid in 33 & 31 States, respectively. Neither are valid in Nevada which has been a business killer since they dropped the Utah permit last year. Hopefully they will reconsider when they do their assessment this year.
I have traveled all over the country to teach the Utah BCI class. Most people opt for the Utah over Florida due to class time (4 hours vs. all day) and the fees to the State ($65 vs. $200+/-), but a few want both so we teach both courses.

TIBA LLC

Do you have to take another class to get the FL and Utah non resident permit? What is the procedure to get one? I have a S.C. CCW .
 
Glock Fan: The state of NV does not recognize the UT CFP or FL CWL, so if you're a frequent traveler to NV, that would be another permit to maintain.

Or you could just quit going to NV. I make no distinction between a business or a state. If they post restrictions they don't get my business.

BCI-Instructor Utah & Florida are two of the best permits out there. At last count they were valid in 33 & 31 States, respectively. Neither are valid in Nevada which has been a business killer since they dropped the Utah permit last year. Hopefully they will reconsider when they do their assessment this year.

I'm sorry this has hurt your business. But it also hurts NV. Wendover is 100 miles from Salt Lake so I used to be a monthly visitor. Between hotel rooms, meals, and gambling, I figure I have saved (and NV has lost) about four grand since they droped UT recipricosity. I have several buddies who have done the same. The recession has crippled the Casino industry in NV bad enough, so why would NV officials want to alienate anyone right now??? I too hope they reconsider this year.
 
I wish they would just come out with a national permit already. :angry:

The Feds can't even manage the Post Office, what do you think they would do with a national carry law. It would be better to just have national reciprocity like your driver license.
 
She pointed to a current situation in Philadelphia, where authorities are fuming because residents who have been denied permits or had them revoked in Pennsylvania have been able to obtain Florida concealed-carry licenses that Philadelphia police are required to honor under reciprocity agreements.
I haven't heard or read anything about this. Has anyone seen any stories about this Philadelphia "situation"?
 
I wish they would just come out with a national permit already. :angry:

Not with the current administration!!! They have already shown that they will, and have skirted around the Constitution. I don't want the GOV'T having ANYTHING to do with concealed carry, or bearing arms issues. It's NOT a GOV'T issue and you surely don't want to give it to them.

Wealready have the right to keep and bear arms. We don't need the gov't approval. Once the McDonald case is over, there won't be a problem anymore..hopefully.
 
I haven't heard or read anything about this. Has anyone seen any stories about this Philadelphia "situation"?

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Philly upset that because they have so many loop holes that a resident must go thru to obtain a LTCF there, residents are getting FL non-resident permits instead.
 
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Philly upset that because they have so many loop holes that a resident must go thru to obtain a LTCF there, residents are getting FL non-resident permits instead.


Finally! The citizens are using the loopholes to circumvent the Gov'T. Maybe they'll get the point we've been trying to get across to them for a year and a half! LOL!!
 
Finally! The citizens are using the loopholes to circumvent the Gov'T. Maybe they'll get the point we've been trying to get across to them for a year and a half! LOL!!
It seems to me that the only reason such a "loophole" exists is because Philadelphia illegally requires more stringent conditions than the rest of the state. Instead of complaining about Florida's system or our reciprocity with them, Philly should be complaining about the state's lax requirements. (Not that I would agree with them, but that is where their attention should really be focused.)

With all of their anecdotal examples of Philly residents with FL permits who would not be granted a PA permit by Philly, I am curious as to how many instances there are of non-Philly, PA residents with PA permits that would have been found "un-permitable" by Philly. In other words, if these residents that they are complaining about were to move from the city to a surrounding county, they would most likely be granted a permit by that county's sheriff.

BTW, that instance of the guy who could not legally own a gun but still had a FL permit, I just flat out do not believe, at least they way it was told. There is something about that that they are not telling.
 

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