Why they blame the gun....

[ezkl2230]

I have finally figured out why libs are so quick to blame the gun.

Most of us here understand that the firearm is an amoral tool. There is nothing inherently good or evil about it. The intent of the user defines the outcome of its use, either for good or for bad.

So why are the libs so quick to demonize the firearm/magazine? Because of what they believe about humans in general.

Most libs believe that all humans are inherently good. That's the exact opposite of what most of us here believe. So when you believe that all people are inherently good, you have to find another explanation for the bad that occurs in the world in order to keep your beliefs in-tact.

Enter the gun.

The gun gives them the opportunity to shift the blame away from people. The gun is the cause of all evil. If there were no guns, there would be no one doing evil things with them. Therefore, the logical conclusion, to them, is to eliminate the guns.

Of course, we know better.

The very first murder was accomplished with a rock (Genesis, Cain and Able). Seen anyone lately advocating to outlaw gravel pits and landscaping companies? I didn't think so.

 

[SR40c]

Rank and file liberals may think "all humans are inherently good". The truth is, liberal politicians know better and to them it's about control as they exploit the feelings of the rank and file liberal to further their totalitarian agenda.

 

[aoakleyc]

You have it exactly backwards. Most liberals think that everyone but them is stupid and dangerous. They blame the guns because they don't like them and are looking for every excuse they can to outlaw them. They also know deep down that they themselves can't be trusted with guns, because of their lack of self control, so no one should be able to own them.

 

[jcreek]

I agree with you that this is most likely their thought process.

However, I disagree with you that most people on here believe that all humans are inherently bad or evil. I believe that humans like guns are neither inherently good nor evil but products of their environment. If raised with strong morals, one will tend to keep them more or less intact throughout their lifetime. If not..well look at this Ariel Castro guy. He was systematically abused as a child, mentally, physically and sexually. This completely crushed his ability to feel empathy for other humans so he was able to kidnap, imprison, rape and torture three teenage girls for over 10 years. If you look at other instances like this most if not all of the perpetrators had similar backgrounds.

I think what you were getting at though is that, from a self-defense perspective, we have to ASSUME that everybody in our presence has bad intentions and is a potential threat. I think there's a big difference between that and actually BELIEVING that human nature is inherently evil.

Samuel Clements said it best: "Be kind and courteous to everyone you meet, but have a plan to kill each one."

 

[joejinky]

So why are the libs so quick to demonize the firearm/magazine?

I disagree with your assessment.

The liberals cannot blame the GUN in these shootings, because in the greatest majority of the shootings, it is LIBERALS who are pulling the triggers.

Think about it. When they screw something up in politics, they NEVER blame Obama or Hillary. They look for something else to blame. However, when a REPUBLICAN screws something up politically, they immediately point to the PERSON as the cause of the problem.

Liberalism is a dangerous mental disorder. They rely heavily on PROJECTION to deflect any notion that a liberal could have done something wrong.

When (as if it would ever happen) a CONSERVATIVE or a "Republican" walks into a school and shoots everyone, the brain dead blithering idiot liberals will NOT blame the gun! THEY WILL BLAME THE "EVIL REPUBLICAN" and the media will be replete with endless nauseating stories about how people died because a REPUBLICAN shot them. You can bet your life on that!

Liberals blame the GUN for these shootings, because they don't have the courage to blame LIBERALS.

 

[webbch]

SR40c has it right IMO. To the politicians, it's about people control. They want subjects, not citizens. The whole "you'll be safer w/o guns" story is just a lie they've spun in an attempt to make it more palatable to the masses.

 

[murphy96789]

Perhaps not relevant, but comparing gun-related deaths to auto-related deaths, I feel more endangered crossing the street than knowing some of my neighbors have firearms. Am I missing the rush to try to control automobile ownership and/or use?

 

[kahrmonger10]

I have finally figured out why libs are so quick to blame the gun.

Most of us here understand that the firearm is an amoral tool. There is nothing inherently good or evil about it. The intent of the user defines the outcome of its use, either for good or for bad.

So why are the libs so quick to demonize the firearm/magazine? Because of what they believe about humans in general.

Most libs believe that all humans are inherently good. That's the exact opposite of what most of us here believe. So when you believe that all people are inherently good, you have to find another explanation for the bad that occurs in the world in order to keep your beliefs in-tact.

Enter the gun.

The gun gives them the opportunity to shift the blame away from people. The gun is the cause of all evil. If there were no guns, there would be no one doing evil things with them. Therefore, the logical conclusion, to them, is to eliminate the guns.

Of course, we know better.

The very first murder was accomplished with a rock (Genesis, Cain and Able). Seen anyone lately advocating to outlaw gravel pits and landscaping companies? I didn't think so.

I have to call you on your first premise. In my experience, liberals tend to believe that all people are inherently bad actors , and therefore must be ruled over by an all-encompassing big brother government. According to them, they are the only ones with enough intelligence to run/live our lives(you and me). Yet they know absolutely nothing about me or my life, dreams, goals, etc. But, ya just gotta trust me on this, I (they) really do know what's best for you and me, so let's have you just go back to your jobs, and sitting in front of the Haunted Aquarium each night while we tell you how wonderful a job we are doing for you. And don't forget to send in your life management fees, we gotta pay our bills too, you know! Oh and don't worry about those other bad guys down the street. Our Security forces will come and help you pick up the pieces when it's all over. I (they) are really scared of guns, and I know if I ever got into a confrontation, I would just pull it out and start shooting, so you better just let us keep them in a safe place, so you won't hurt yourself. It's all for the kids you know. BBBBBBSSSSSS We all know that if we are armed, their ways will not succeed. Everything in their world revolves around one thing.Will (fill in the blank) help or hinder our glorious march to control and domination of all aspects of life. If yes, glorify it, if no then denigrate, lie, and demonize it (or them) ie you and me. End of lesson. You now know all you need to know about liberals. Thank me. :dirol:

 

[fuhr52]

Here is the shorter answer, Liberals are right. Everyone else is wrong. No facts and/or truths need to backup any liberal claims. Their word alone is enough. Now everyone join together in a group hug and sing Kumbaya.

 

[CapGun]

I have finally figured out why libs are so quick to blame the gun.

Most of us here understand that the firearm is an amoral tool. There is nothing inherently good or evil about it. The intent of the user defines the outcome of its use, either for good or for bad.

So why are the libs so quick to demonize the firearm/magazine? Because of what they believe about humans in general.

Most libs believe that all humans are inherently good. That's the exact opposite of what most of us here believe. So when you believe that all people are inherently good, you have to find another explanation for the bad that occurs in the world in order to keep your beliefs in-tact.

Enter the gun.

The gun gives them the opportunity to shift the blame away from people. The gun is the cause of all evil. If there were no guns, there would be no one doing evil things with them. Therefore, the logical conclusion, to them, is to eliminate the guns.

Of course, we know better.

The very first murder was accomplished with a rock (Genesis, Cain and Able). Seen anyone lately advocating to outlaw gravel pits and landscaping companies? I didn't think so.

Sorry but back to the drawing board for you.
If they thought that we are all inherently good then why do they constantly push for more laws and control where they decide what is good for us.
Bill Clinton once said about getting lower taxes and a larger refund that the average person probably wouldn't know how to spend the money.
Do not exclude the fact that many on the left want guns out of our hands so they can better control us idiots that don't know how to care for the environment, how to spend our own money and are evil.
Understand that when it comes to guns they just don't trust themselves with a gun. How do you expect them to trust you when they don't trust themselves with a gun. Basic transference.
In talking with libs or being in social situations, so many times does somethings come up, and not always about guns, do I hear them say something about shooting someone or that my or others reactions would be to shoot someone.
Humorous example without going into too much detail. Topic: A kid mentions something to a friend of theirs about my wife having an "accident". In my discussion with this liberal friend I said that if that were true you know what I would do?
She said "shoot them?" I admonished her and told her that only liberals react is such violent ways including using the words shoot, kill etc. I asked if she ever heard me say anything like that. Of course her answer was no. I asked how can that be because we all know how violent, evil racist conservative individuals are.
She finally asked what I would do, what was I going to say? So I told her I would ask my wife if her life insurance was paid.
Really, next time you are talking with someone and just automatically they say something about shooting someone notice if they are anti gun. 99.9% of the time they are.

 

[dogshawred]

They blame the guns to get the guns, it's only logical.

You guys have my head SPINNING so much I can't seem to see my guns laughing at you all.
Just to make this real for you all out there.
They blame the guns because it's the guns they want to abolish.
Guns can't speak to say they are innocent :yu: of the crime so it must be guilty, of course.
Guns can't vote :biggrin: , so they have no redress to keep from being abolished.
Guns can't even write their legislator asking for help with their attacks for the liberal gun grabbers.
Speaking of which gun grabbers should all be indicted for sexual harrassment, those liberals just don't care where they grab it. :stop:

 

[Andrew49417]

It happens with almost everything. Read the newspaper: "So-and-so was killed when the car he was driving left the road and struck a tree." As if it is the car's fault.

When It should read, "...when he drove his car off the road and struck a tree."

No one wants to take or give blame to people for their actions. Do you Notice every murderer supposedly had a difficult or abused childhood? Always... Blame someone or something else.

 

[cpthowdy]

A small point:the "Kumbaya" I recall from my youth had many religious references. This WOULD NOT fly with the Libtards. So you could have the group hug, but they would have to improvise a non-religious, feel-good, Libtard celebrating song, with some Conservative bashing lyrics somewhere in it, if at all possible. Nothing springs to mind. Any suggestions??

 

[shermris]

The premise of liberal logic that government should control the ideas, behavior, and conditions we live under because the average citizen is not capable of taking care of himself or making decisions that are best for the social order, they deem appropriate. To sum up the liberal logic explanation; the average citizen is both helpless, and dumb. Any explanation the liberal ruling class proposes should be accepted without question or debate. They should decide where we live, what we eat, what we own, where we go, and what we think. Anything that goes wrong can be blamed on someone or something that failed to submit to their ideals.

 

[JCliff]

A fundamental premise of the (so-called) liberal progressive position is that the human condition is perfectible. If enough control can be exerted to eliminate “bad” ideas and “bad” things, a “perfect” society is attainable (no crime, no want, no injustice, no inequalities, etc.). Therefore you have the statist position where no power should be withheld from the state in order to achieve these things. This is in contradiction to the position that the human condition is inherently flawed, and cannot be made perfect by the actions of other inherently flawed human beings. I personally have not found a single instance in all of recorded human history that refutes this latter position. Our Founding Fathers fully recognized the true nature of the human condition, which is why they constructed a constitutional republic, with a government of limited authority, with many checks and balances, in order to provide for liberty and prevent tyranny amongst inherently flawed human beings.

 

[Warrior1256]

The libs demonize the firearm in an effort to get them outlawed for civilian ownership. That is the only way that they can control us.

 

[Old_Dog]

They blame the gun because they need an object to vilify rather than try to address the deep social and mental issues involved. Banning guns is good press. Approving long term studies is not. Right now gun control is a hot topic by those who do not need a gun and fear them. We are in a period where we ban things to save 10,000 lives a year. Soon we will ban things to save 1,000 lives a year. After that, life will be so precious that we will ban everything that may cause harm.

 

[gejoslin]

They blame the gun because they need an object to vilify rather than try to address the deep social and mental issues involved. Banning guns is good press. Approving long term studies is not. Right now gun control is a hot topic by those who do not need a gun and fear them. We are in a period where we ban things to save 10,000 lives a year. Soon we will ban things to save 1,000 lives a year. After that, life will be so precious that we will ban everything that may cause harm.

How about banning a class of rifles and punishing all law abiding gun owners because if it saved one life!

 

[wolf_fire]

I have finally figured out why libs are so quick to blame the gun.

Most of us here understand that the firearm is an amoral tool. There is nothing inherently good or evil about it. The intent of the user defines the outcome of its use, either for good or for bad.

So why are the libs so quick to demonize the firearm/magazine? Because of what they believe about humans in general.

Most libs believe that all humans are inherently good. That's the exact opposite of what most of us here believe. So when you believe that all people are inherently good, you have to find another explanation for the bad that occurs in the world in order to keep your beliefs in-tact.

Enter the gun.

The gun gives them the opportunity to shift the blame away from people. The gun is the cause of all evil. If there were no guns, there would be no one doing evil things with them. Therefore, the logical conclusion, to them, is to eliminate the guns.

Of course, we know better.

The very first murder was accomplished with a rock (Genesis, Cain and Able). Seen anyone lately advocating to outlaw gravel pits and landscaping companies? I didn't think so.

The glaring flaw in the libs thinking however is that libs are not generally good..... Let me give a few examples:
- Fast and Furious
- Benghazi
- AP spying
- Clinton (either one)
- IRS scandal
- Al Gore
- Obama
- Pelosi
- Feinstein
- Just about every lib on the Supreme Court

 

[wolf_fire]

A fundamental premise of the (so-called) liberal progressive position is that the human condition is perfectible. If enough control can be exerted to eliminate “bad” ideas and “bad” things, a “perfect” society is attainable (no crime, no want, no injustice, no inequalities, etc.). Therefore you have the statist position where no power should be withheld from the state in order to achieve these things.

Until that "bad" country invades and we are all defenseless.

This is in contradiction to the position that the human condition is inherently flawed, and cannot be made perfect by the actions of other inherently flawed human beings. I personally have not found a single instance in all of recorded human history that refutes this latter position. Our Founding Fathers fully recognized the true nature of the human condition, which is why they constructed a constitutional republic, with a government of limited authority, with many checks and balances, in order to provide for liberty and prevent tyranny amongst inherently flawed human beings.

You are so right that the human condition is inherently flawed.