Why Concealed Carry is a bad strategy.

[Firefighterchen]

Concealed Carry has many fans, but when it comes down to a firefight, it will fail you.

When you conceal carry, you are signaling the world that you want to be victimized, even if you are just bluffing!

Bad Guys are not afraid of you unless you are actually ready to fight.

And they aren't going to give you that chance.

As carriers, we are not on the offensive all the time. Self defense demands you have SA and a good offensive that you can unleash as quickly as possible.

Tactics learned on the conventional firing range are worthless in a real fight. The Bad Guys aren't going to give you time to get ready, and sight in on them. They want to win, at your expense.

Open Carry is the way to go on the streets. You get the element of deterrence.

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[Dale64]

Are you being a pot stirrer again???

 

[KCD1974]

LMAO....That's all....

 

[creatism]

I was actually waiting for one of these type posts!
This is great.

 

[kerb]

Concealed Carry has many fans, but when it comes down to a firefight, it will fail you.

When you conceal carry, you are signaling the world that you want to be victimized, even if you are just bluffing!

Bad Guys are not afraid of you unless you are actually ready to fight.

And they aren't going to give you that chance.

As carriers, we are not on the offensive all the time. Self defense demands you have SA and a good offensive that you can unleash as quickly as possible.

Tactics learned on the conventional firing range are worthless in a real fight. The Bad Guys aren't going to give you time to get ready, and sight in on them. They want to win, at your expense.

Open Carry is the way to go on the streets. You get the element of deterrence.

One might argue that open carry is the way to establish yourself as the most immediate threat.

 

[Dale64]

If that is the case, then I am going to start driving an M1 Abrams and carrying around a gatling gun like Jesse Ventura did in Predator

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[zacklmpd]

Someone get the pop corn cookin I hear a show down comin on

 

[Warbirds]

Concealed Carry has many fans, but when it comes down to a firefight, it will fail you.

When you conceal carry, you are signaling the world that you want to be victimized, even if you are just bluffing!

Bad Guys are not afraid of you unless you are actually ready to fight.

And they aren't going to give you that chance.

As carriers, we are not on the offensive all the time. Self defense demands you have SA and a good offensive that you can unleash as quickly as possible.

Tactics learned on the conventional firing range are worthless in a real fight. The Bad Guys aren't going to give you time to get ready, and sight in on them. They want to win, at your expense.

Open Carry is the way to go on the streets. You get the element of deterrence.

It looks like OCing has given up the moral high ground. The statement of not going into the opposing forum and stating they are wrong, has fallen.

Since we have so many members that are psychic and can state with a certainty why CCing or OCing will fail, how about you just tell me the day i will have to use my weapon and i will stay home that day.

 

[kerb]

Does the same apply if you cc a 50 cal Desert Eagle? :jester:

 

[Firefighterchen]

*face palm*

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/open-carry-discussion/19392-why-open-carry-bad-strategy.html

Sorry, didn't realize of all threads, mine would be taken seriously after the strings of joke threads started today.

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[TWaggoner]

Too much weight to your words may be the reason for the humor failing.

 

[sdprof]

One might argue that open carry is the way to establish yourself as the most immediate threat.

Which is another way to say most immediate target.

 

[Caribou]

You misjudge the deterrence factor of CC. After all these years of carrying sometimes and sometimes not, the bad guys just don't know whether I am packing so they leave me alone.

 

[localgirl]

I find the most immediate threat/target concept interesting.

If I'm a criminal, and I decide to commit a crime at gunpoint, I'm either going to pick one of those "no weapons allowed" places, or if I see someone packing, choose a different target. At worst, I would demand the open carrier disarm. I mean, why the heck would I want to risk getting myself shot? If I just open fire on an open carrier, one of two things will happen: he will shoot back (the most likely, since gunshots typically result in instant death only in movies), or I will kill him and be looking at some serious time if not the death penalty.

The only circumstances I can see where criminals would actually pick off open carriers would be a very large, very intricate crime where the money involved could buy you a new life in a foreign country, or some random pissed off gangbangers who are looking for targets in the first place. In either case, these people are already committed to the idea of killing someone, and your chances of getting shot were pretty good to begin with.

I'm sure there have been times when open carriers were targeted, but if I had to guess, I would say these are vastly outnumbered by people who spot a gun and feel nervous or scared and are deterred from criminal behavior.

I myself carry concealed because it is most convenient for me, but am happy that I have a choice in the matter.

 

[CharlieWH2O]

If that is the case, then I am going to start driving an M1 Abrams and carrying around a gatling gun like Jesse Ventura did in Predator

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He died in Predator.

 

[CharlieWH2O]

I find the most immediate threat/target concept interesting.

If I'm a criminal, and I decide to commit a crime at gunpoint, I'm either going to pick one of those "no weapons allowed" places, or if I see someone packing, choose a different target. At worst, I would demand the open carrier disarm. I mean, why the heck would I want to risk getting myself shot? If I just open fire on an open carrier, one of two things will happen: he will shoot back (the most likely, since gunshots typically result in instant death only in movies), or I will kill him and be looking at some serious time if not the death penalty.

The only circumstances I can see where criminals would actually pick off open carriers would be a very large, very intricate crime where the money involved could buy you a new life in a foreign country, or some random pissed off gangbangers who are looking for targets in the first place. In either case, these people are already committed to the idea of killing someone, and your chances of getting shot were pretty good to begin with.

I'm sure there have been times when open carriers were targeted, but if I had to guess, I would say these are vastly outnumbered by people who spot a gun and feel nervous or scared and are deterred from criminal behavior.

I myself carry concealed because it is most convenient for me, but am happy that I have a choice in the matter.

Bad guys often target "open carriers". Of course most of us know the "open carriers" as LEOs.

 

[Firefighterchen]

Too much weight to your words may be the reason for the humor failing.

true...although the OP is almost word for word from the other thread...

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[fnsmoak]

As I read this commentary, I notice the "avatar" of the OP.

About challenging another weapon carrier about how/what he carries; NEVER A GOOD IDEA:

A very experienced LE trainer loudly accosted me in a local range about how my little concealed .22 was worthless and couldn't stop a rogue grandma determined to take my wallet, I simply stated: "If you really want to prove YOUR point, back off to 7 steps, draw your pocket-knife and run at me as fast as you can while screaming. We'll test your argument, and I promise to only shoot "NEAR" your feet. If I'm a bad shot and you get hit, no harm done, right?"

NO MORE ARGUMENT!! I guess my point was sharp enough.

Law-abiding folk don't UN-necessarily challenge each other. The criminal element challenges whom they think they can easily subdue, or plan a primary attack on those that would subvert their intent. I'd rather have the choice of action left to me, rather than make sure someone else is deciding for me.

I'll choose concealed even if foolish people make Open Carry a mandate.

 

[B2Tall]

Top 10 reasons why CCing is a bad idea.

10. You can't strut around like a self-important peacock.
9. You have to find another way to overcompensate.
8. You can't carry at all since you've been denied a CCW repeatedly.
7. You can't impress teenagers and mall-ninjas.
6. You miss out on the pleasure of having phony SEALs and Green Berets coming up to you and telling you their phony stories.
5. No more women asking "Is that a long-barreled S&W500 in your pocket or are you just glad to see me??".
4. You'll have to bark even louder in order to let everyone know you're a sheepdog (or you'll have to wear a badge if you're a wannabe LEO).
3. It means you'll only be able to pass yourself off as a tough-guy while at the range.
2. No more practicing your quick-draw while waiting in line at the supermarket.
1. Somebody else will probably have the pleasure of being attacked first (shot, pistol-whipped, etc) by a potential bad guy.

:biggrin:

 

[Firefighterchen]

As I read this commentary, I notice the "avatar" of the OP.

What's wrong with my avatar? :-( you have something against pandas?

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