Why carry open in town?
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Personally I OC because it invites people to ask me about why i carry and to ask me about the legalities involved in buying and carrying. I understand the risk involved and feel it's minimal in my area. I very much want people to ask me about why I carry. I relish the oportunity to open others minds.
BluesStringer
Les Brers
Have you ever heard of a gun store where everyone behind the counter is openly armed being robbed during business hours? Though there may well be a few scattered instances of such criminal idiocy, it is an exceedingly rare occurrence. Could it be that OC at a gun store is a deterrent to crime? I believe it is.
I concealed carried for well over 30 years before I started OC'ing. All you have to do is search on my post history to know that I want absolutely nothing to do with cops, so anyone who sees my OC'ed weapon as an invitation to come hassle me is either blind, can't read, or just stupid.
While I have no objection to talking to strangers about my OC'ed weapon as long as they're respectful, non-aggressive and/or non-insulting, the fact is I've been OC'ing regularly since last August and not a single person, cop, citizen or store manager, has said a word to me about it.
I suppose you're right in one respect. I do want attention for my OC'ed weapon....I want would-be criminals to notice that even though I'm a fairly old guy who walks with a pronounced limp and sometimes with a cane, I'm not a defenseless or willing victim. I hope he decides against trying to victimize me or mine, and I believe that OC has at least the potential to accomplish that, whereas CC has absolutely zero potential to accomplish that.
I OC for the tactical advantage and because I'm too old to allow myself to get behind the curve by having to get to my weapon after being surprised by an attacker.
Your OP sounds like you've already made up your mind about the motives of OC'ers, but you asked, so there you go.
Good luck with the giveaway contest.
Blues
I concealed carried for well over 30 years before I started OC'ing. All you have to do is search on my post history to know that I want absolutely nothing to do with cops, so anyone who sees my OC'ed weapon as an invitation to come hassle me is either blind, can't read, or just stupid.
While I have no objection to talking to strangers about my OC'ed weapon as long as they're respectful, non-aggressive and/or non-insulting, the fact is I've been OC'ing regularly since last August and not a single person, cop, citizen or store manager, has said a word to me about it.
I suppose you're right in one respect. I do want attention for my OC'ed weapon....I want would-be criminals to notice that even though I'm a fairly old guy who walks with a pronounced limp and sometimes with a cane, I'm not a defenseless or willing victim. I hope he decides against trying to victimize me or mine, and I believe that OC has at least the potential to accomplish that, whereas CC has absolutely zero potential to accomplish that.
I OC for the tactical advantage and because I'm too old to allow myself to get behind the curve by having to get to my weapon after being surprised by an attacker.
Your OP sounds like you've already made up your mind about the motives of OC'ers, but you asked, so there you go.
Good luck with the giveaway contest.
Blues
Firefighterchen
OC for Tactical Advantage
Seems to me that legally carrying concealed is just deceitful and people wanting to be judge jury and executioners. What purpose does it actually serve? Comments?
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farsidefan1
New member
^^^^^^ What he said (Blues). My first thought was Why not? It certainly offers quicker access and who really cares what some silly goose thinks. I stopped worrying about the opinions of idiots a long time ago. As to the cops, well they need educating sometimes and I know some of the answers they need. I can afford an atty and they will meet him if necessary.
Aaron Koch
New member
I like to do both OC my primary and CC my back-up. Some people get a little leery most don't notice.
Nightmare45
NRA LIFE MEMBER
Have had no issues either way.
Mainsail
Member
Every study ever done says that violent criminals will avoid a person if they know they're armed. So you believe it's better to pretend to be unarmed, by concealing, and invite an attack?
That's bizarre.
Seems to me that posting this as your very first post is just a show-off and an invitation to be hassled by certain members of this community. What purpose does it actually serve?
telpinaro
New member
BC1
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The exact reason I wouldn't do it. I don't want any attention from anyone regarding anything.
gunnerbob
PEW Professional
Not this again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aaaaagggghhhhrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wolf_fire
New member
You've been on this forum for 4 years, never posted once... and then with your first post, ask the question that has been debated probably the most on these forums. What purpose does that serve? Comments?
Mainsail
Member
D'oh! I forgot to check the post count on the OP.
I doubt it is a serious question, but rather just some loser with little else to do but register a new user name then ask something stupid just to get a reaction. I really wish the forum mods would cross-check IP addresses and ban the idiots.
I doubt it is a serious question, but rather just some loser with little else to do but register a new user name then ask something stupid just to get a reaction. I really wish the forum mods would cross-check IP addresses and ban the idiots.
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Bikenut
Guest
Personally I don't care if the OP posted just to get a rise out of folks or if that was an honest and sincere question. What I consider important is to answer that question so that people who might be wondering that exact same thing will have some information.
So... what purpose does OC in town serve?
1. OC is an up front in your face notice to any bad guys that I am armed and will not be easy prey. Hopefully that will be enough to cause them to decide to not attack me but to wait for someone who does look like unarmed easy prey... perhaps a concealed carrier who looks just like all the other unarmed folks wandering around.
2. OC makes it much easier to access the holstered gun and the draw is faster than concealed carry because the gun is unencumbered by any cover garments .
3. OC is a very visible example of the right to bear arms ... again... up front and in your face where it is impossible to ignore that there really is a right to bear arms. Concealed carry does not send that message, in fact, concealed carry in States that require a permit isn't even the right to bear arms in the first place but is merely the government controlled privilege of having... the government's permission (permit) to carry concealed.
4. OC is a teaching tool ... a way to teach police depts. there really is a right to bear arms and that there are consequences for hassling those who legally open carry even if the cops don't like it. There have been quite a few police depts. in Michigan who got a lesson in the legality of open carry... and the illegality of hassling open carriers.
5. OC invites questions and conversations making it an opportunity to educate the curious about the right to bear arms.
6. OC serves to make guns more acceptable to be seen in public by showing there is nothing to fear from ordinary people doing ordinary things while wearing a gun. The more people see of something the faster it becomes normal to see that something and before long always seeing it is just part of what is ... normal.
And open carry, including the open carry of a shotgun, into a library in downtown Lansing Michigan resulted in an important court case http://www.michiganopencarry.org/?q=cadl that stopped any municipal "authority" (like a "library authority" or a "transit authority" or a "downtown development authority") from banning guns.
So... what purpose does OC in town serve?
1. OC is an up front in your face notice to any bad guys that I am armed and will not be easy prey. Hopefully that will be enough to cause them to decide to not attack me but to wait for someone who does look like unarmed easy prey... perhaps a concealed carrier who looks just like all the other unarmed folks wandering around.
2. OC makes it much easier to access the holstered gun and the draw is faster than concealed carry because the gun is unencumbered by any cover garments .
3. OC is a very visible example of the right to bear arms ... again... up front and in your face where it is impossible to ignore that there really is a right to bear arms. Concealed carry does not send that message, in fact, concealed carry in States that require a permit isn't even the right to bear arms in the first place but is merely the government controlled privilege of having... the government's permission (permit) to carry concealed.
4. OC is a teaching tool ... a way to teach police depts. there really is a right to bear arms and that there are consequences for hassling those who legally open carry even if the cops don't like it. There have been quite a few police depts. in Michigan who got a lesson in the legality of open carry... and the illegality of hassling open carriers.
5. OC invites questions and conversations making it an opportunity to educate the curious about the right to bear arms.
6. OC serves to make guns more acceptable to be seen in public by showing there is nothing to fear from ordinary people doing ordinary things while wearing a gun. The more people see of something the faster it becomes normal to see that something and before long always seeing it is just part of what is ... normal.
And open carry, including the open carry of a shotgun, into a library in downtown Lansing Michigan resulted in an important court case http://www.michiganopencarry.org/?q=cadl that stopped any municipal "authority" (like a "library authority" or a "transit authority" or a "downtown development authority") from banning guns.
JustTheFacts
New member
Why persist in interacting with morons? You can do better than that, Wolf.
Rocketgeezer
New member
Dam dude are you for real, your first post, I bet you would kick a hornets nest on the ground
CharlesMorrison
Banned
I open carry in town for one simple reason.
I can.
Carry on...
Sent from behind Enemy Lines.
I can.
Carry on...
Sent from behind Enemy Lines.
Wow. It must be April's Fools day. I actually gave you a like and wholeheartedly agree with your post!
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