Who will vote for these clowns


jwtollett21

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This came directly from cnn.

"I don't care about how Sarah Palin or John McCain take care of their families. I care about how their policy choices affect my family and millions of other Americans.
McCain and Palin get their health insurance paid for by the government (hers in Alaska and his in Washington). Yet they oppose giving the nearly 46 million uninsured Americans the same access to affordable health care.
John McCain's kids don't have to worry about paying for college. Yet he has opposed every single education support program to help others.
McCain and Palin say they will stand up to oil companies. Yet the only energy policy they support gives millions of dollars in tax breaks to oil companies to do more drilling and he has opposed every piece of federal legislation to explore alternative fuel sources.
McCain and Palin say they will revamp how Washington does business. Yet his campaign is filled with lobbyists and she has cooperated with Sen. Ted Stevens in funneling federal money for useless projects in Alaska for years. And McCain and Palin have no solutions for Americans worrying about their jobs in a fragile economy. iReport.com: Is Palin the right choice for you?
McCain and Palin want us to leave their families alone. Yet they want to make rules for our families by eliminating our right to make our own choices over abortion, eliminate our access to family planning education or domestic partner benefits, and our freedom from discrimination.
They want to control what our kids learn in school about sex and about science. In short, through the policies they promote and the judges they support, they want the government to have more control over our private lives than at any time in history.
McCain and Palin now say their campaign is about change, too. Yet the only real change they have proposed is a change from a suit to a skirt in the vice president's office and one man fighting a misplaced war for another in the Oval Office.
That seems to me to be the right reason to oppose them in November. It's not the process or the people, it's what they represent. This unconventional choice of a vice presidential nominee by John McCain won't result in a win in November, because McCain and Palin are the wrong choice for the country"

Let me add this Obama will not raise your taxes if you make 250k or less. You will actually receive a larger tax cut than under mcbush.
 

kwo51

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Let the communist be heard.If you are given something it will not be a special, like you have earned it .Like Freedom.:hang2:
 

MP3Mogul

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CNN..

LMMFAO...

Communist News Network

Left wing libbie talk... all squabble babble... doesn't mean chit.:wub:

Nobama doesn't have a prayer....
 
This came directly from cnn.

"I don't care about how Sarah Palin or John McCain take care of their families. I care about how their policy choices affect my family and millions of other Americans.
McCain and Palin get their health insurance paid for by the government (hers in Alaska and his in Washington). Yet they oppose giving the nearly 46 million uninsured Americans the same access to affordable health care.
John McCain's kids don't have to worry about paying for college. Yet he has opposed every single education support program to help others.
McCain and Palin say they will stand up to oil companies. Yet the only energy policy they support gives millions of dollars in tax breaks to oil companies to do more drilling and he has opposed every piece of federal legislation to explore alternative fuel sources.
McCain and Palin say they will revamp how Washington does business. Yet his campaign is filled with lobbyists and she has cooperated with Sen. Ted Stevens in funneling federal money for useless projects in Alaska for years. And McCain and Palin have no solutions for Americans worrying about their jobs in a fragile economy. iReport.com: Is Palin the right choice for you?
McCain and Palin want us to leave their families alone. Yet they want to make rules for our families by eliminating our right to make our own choices over abortion, eliminate our access to family planning education or domestic partner benefits, and our freedom from discrimination.
They want to control what our kids learn in school about sex and about science. In short, through the policies they promote and the judges they support, they want the government to have more control over our private lives than at any time in history.
McCain and Palin now say their campaign is about change, too. Yet the only real change they have proposed is a change from a suit to a skirt in the vice president's office and one man fighting a misplaced war for another in the Oval Office.
That seems to me to be the right reason to oppose them in November. It's not the process or the people, it's what they represent. This unconventional choice of a vice presidential nominee by John McCain won't result in a win in November, because McCain and Palin are the wrong choice for the country"

Let me add this Obama will not raise your taxes if you make 250k or less. You will actually receive a larger tax cut than under mcbush.

Another example of someone speaking without doing their research. A troll possibly, definitely someone who lives by emotions rather than rational thought.
 

tattedupboy

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Well, I certainly admire jwtollet's bravery throwing himself into the lion's den like that. I disagree with him, but I still admire him.
 

Canis-Lupus

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When do we pull the plug on this patrons pedantic posts?

Man I wanted to know why some respected USA Carry power posters were all upset, OK who stuck the stick into the bee-hive?
Then when I read the 'quoted' replies I found out the reason.
Link Removed threw a booby-trapped troll post up and got what he craves, your replies.
For HK4U, kwo51, MP3Mogul, and ronwill, logging onto USA-Carry and not being provoked by the like of this slick troll is a sweet deal. But like a bad case of herpes this soft talking bigot keeps coming back to rile you and many others up to reply. IMHO playing right into his burning desires to provoke your responses, and I 100% agree with your responses. I don't tell you who to post to, but today I advise caution only. If with every post I made I was writing reams about Vets spins and Vet politics into every post I made (outside Vets and Guns) you would prolly yank my chain or ignore my agendas, but with every post this one patron is on an oh so obvious Crusade to slam his ideas down your screens and upset you with a constant litany of his personal views. That's why I enjoy reading everything each of you has added to USA Carry because you talk about various concepts in your life-skills and are flexible with many subjects. But EVERY time this troll pops-smoke he does it with words very carefully crafted to send you fuming to your keyboards, which is exactly what he wants. If more folks start seeing that his posts do not do anything but KEEP pushing your buttons with the same old garbage and you reacting by slamming out replies that make him very happy that you are furious and he is safe at home and bringing your blood-pressure up is what? TROLLING if you look it up on any Wiki or online search, he is not a Liquid-G angry troll but he achieves the very same disgust in most who don't like other patrons telling them what to do with their votes, guns, lives or "soccer Moms" or "Wall-Mart" metaphors that blanket you all as what (?) a group not individuals, that is profiling and it's a low form of making any point. All the things this jerk wants you to agree with him on are getting very old and now pathetic. He has trolled and got what he wants from you, a response, I implore any patron that an 'ignore list' exists for pests and the very last thing this patron/TROLL wants is his same old words ignored by any reply, then maybe he'll go away. That is your call fellow patrons, and I hope you oblige this troll with the ROARING silence he has so richly earned for himself in so many posts that all read basically the same. Do any of you even think you will change his mind or does he think that harping on only one subject will change yours? Agree to disagree and when you get sick enough of his same old spins on the Obama theme then maybe he doesn't rate a reply. Reply to him and you are perpetuating his presence on USA Carry, 'ignore list' him and he loses his (audience) ability to push his ideas very far down your throats or to provoke a long thread the best thing any skilled troll delights in.
I probably belong on many patrons 'ignore lists' for my views, please put me there if you can not see this fella is baiting you and laughing at your replies, leave him to post with no replies and he will get the message that USA Carry is not his personal dictatorship and upsetting you only brings him more pleasure that you do not have to provide him with.
Let's get this troll into a box of no one home to listen or reply to his irritating persona, IMHO he drags this group down every time he surfaces. Said my bit and I said the same last time he posted words about how he'd laugh as I was "burying my gun", is that confrontive talk smoothed over or what?
Freedom of speech is what the 1 Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America gives us, pushing your ideas and dogma down others throats on any medium with every post moves away from that tenant into the realms of bigots, morons and trolls, this patron IMHO is all of these and does not rate a wit of common-sense response from patrons who joined this group to learn about concealed carry, teach others the rules or their skills and have fun doing it, not have their politics changed by a very crafty troll who will go away if no one feeds his rants with replies to keep him coming back for more troll fun at your expense, time and efforts. There is nothing you can post to him that will change his mind and not come back as a post by him twisted into an Obamination of your desires to help him see how very confused and politely obnoxious he has moved beyond tolerating or even qualifying with any cognizant or common sense reply.

If we had a patron on here that was pro-Islamic, posting from say Saudi Arabia and politely told you with every post just how bad our country was for doing whatever we did, and ObL was just doing God's will, would you spend hours trying to convert such a patron, or how fast would you be yelling for Luke or pulling-up your 'ignore-list'? I leave you with that one simple thought.


Canis-Lupus
 
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johnsteele

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This came directly from cnn.

"I don't care about how Sarah Palin or John McCain take care of their families. I care about how their policy choices affect my family and millions of other Americans.
McCain and Palin get their health insurance paid for by the government (hers in Alaska and his in Washington). Yet they oppose giving the nearly 46 million uninsured Americans the same access to affordable health care.
John McCain's kids don't have to worry about paying for college. Yet he has opposed every single education support program to help others.
McCain and Palin say they will stand up to oil companies. Yet the only energy policy they support gives millions of dollars in tax breaks to oil companies to do more drilling and he has opposed every piece of federal legislation to explore alternative fuel sources.
McCain and Palin say they will revamp how Washington does business. Yet his campaign is filled with lobbyists and she has cooperated with Sen. Ted Stevens in funneling federal money for useless projects in Alaska for years. And McCain and Palin have no solutions for Americans worrying about their jobs in a fragile economy. iReport.com: Is Palin the right choice for you?
McCain and Palin want us to leave their families alone. Yet they want to make rules for our families by eliminating our right to make our own choices over abortion, eliminate our access to family planning education or domestic partner benefits, and our freedom from discrimination.
They want to control what our kids learn in school about sex and about science. In short, through the policies they promote and the judges they support, they want the government to have more control over our private lives than at any time in history.
McCain and Palin now say their campaign is about change, too. Yet the only real change they have proposed is a change from a suit to a skirt in the vice president's office and one man fighting a misplaced war for another in the Oval Office.
That seems to me to be the right reason to oppose them in November. It's not the process or the people, it's what they represent. This unconventional choice of a vice presidential nominee by John McCain won't result in a win in November, because McCain and Palin are the wrong choice for the country"

Let me add this Obama will not raise your taxes if you make 250k or less. You will actually receive a larger tax cut than under mcbush.
Utter hogwash.
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
This came directly from cnn.

"I don't care about how Sarah Palin or John McCain take care of their families. I care about how their policy choices affect my family and millions of other Americans.
McCain and Palin get their health insurance paid for by the government (hers in Alaska and his in Washington). Yet they oppose giving the nearly 46 million uninsured Americans the same access to affordable health care.
John McCain's kids don't have to worry about paying for college. Yet he has opposed every single education support program to help others.
McCain and Palin say they will stand up to oil companies. Yet the only energy policy they support gives millions of dollars in tax breaks to oil companies to do more drilling and he has opposed every piece of federal legislation to explore alternative fuel sources.
McCain and Palin say they will revamp how Washington does business. Yet his campaign is filled with lobbyists and she has cooperated with Sen. Ted Stevens in funneling federal money for useless projects in Alaska for years. And McCain and Palin have no solutions for Americans worrying about their jobs in a fragile economy. iReport.com: Is Palin the right choice for you?
McCain and Palin want us to leave their families alone. Yet they want to make rules for our families by eliminating our right to make our own choices over abortion, eliminate our access to family planning education or domestic partner benefits, and our freedom from discrimination.
They want to control what our kids learn in school about sex and about science. In short, through the policies they promote and the judges they support, they want the government to have more control over our private lives than at any time in history.
McCain and Palin now say their campaign is about change, too. Yet the only real change they have proposed is a change from a suit to a skirt in the vice president's office and one man fighting a misplaced war for another in the Oval Office.
That seems to me to be the right reason to oppose them in November. It's not the process or the people, it's what they represent. This unconventional choice of a vice presidential nominee by John McCain won't result in a win in November, because McCain and Palin are the wrong choice for the country"

Let me add this Obama will not raise your taxes if you make 250k or less. You will actually receive a larger tax cut than under mcbush.

He makes it sound so good doesn't he?
 

jwtollett21

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Wow you guys act like i wrote that acticle. I just copied and pasted. the only thing i added was the last part. I'm simply doing what all you guys do on this site and that's express my views. Sorry you don't agree with me but thats cool. Canis you like that troll word don't you. Thanks for you concern for everyone but they can respond if they feel like it. I think we are all 18 here and don't need your help.
 

The Gunny

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This came directly from cnn.

"I don't care about how Sarah Palin or John McCain take care of their families. I care about how their policy choices affect my family and millions of other Americans.
McCain and Palin get their health insurance paid for by the government (hers in Alaska and his in Washington). Yet they oppose giving the nearly 46 million uninsured Americans the same access to affordable health care.
John McCain's kids don't have to worry about paying for college. Yet he has opposed every single education support program to help others.
McCain and Palin say they will stand up to oil companies. Yet the only energy policy they support gives millions of dollars in tax breaks to oil companies to do more drilling and he has opposed every piece of federal legislation to explore alternative fuel sources.
McCain and Palin say they will revamp how Washington does business. Yet his campaign is filled with lobbyists and she has cooperated with Sen. Ted Stevens in funneling federal money for useless projects in Alaska for years. And McCain and Palin have no solutions for Americans worrying about their jobs in a fragile economy. iReport.com: Is Palin the right choice for you?
McCain and Palin want us to leave their families alone. Yet they want to make rules for our families by eliminating our right to make our own choices over abortion, eliminate our access to family planning education or domestic partner benefits, and our freedom from discrimination.
They want to control what our kids learn in school about sex and about science. In short, through the policies they promote and the judges they support, they want the government to have more control over our private lives than at any time in history.
McCain and Palin now say their campaign is about change, too. Yet the only real change they have proposed is a change from a suit to a skirt in the vice president's office and one man fighting a misplaced war for another in the Oval Office.
That seems to me to be the right reason to oppose them in November. It's not the process or the people, it's what they represent. This unconventional choice of a vice presidential nominee by John McCain won't result in a win in November, because McCain and Palin are the wrong choice for the country"

Let me add this Obama will not raise your taxes if you make 250k or less. You will actually receive a larger tax cut than under mcbush.

AMEN Brother! I don't make 250,000 I never will. I have been reading about certain CEO's who lead their companies to utter ruin who were then given MILLIONS as a severance package nice work boys. Now the American tax payers will get stuck with the bills.
 
As far as taxes go take a look at the following and decide whether Obama will raise them:

The Tax Foundation - U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1913-2008

Taxes under CLINTON-1999 Taxes under BUSH-2008

Single earning: Single earning:

30K - taxed- $ 8,400 30K - taxed $4,500

50K - taxed $ 14,000 50K - taxed $12,500

75K - taxed $ 23,250 75K - taxed $18,750


Married earning: Married earning:

60K - taxed $ 16,800 60K - taxed $9,000

75K - taxed $ 21,000 75K - taxed $18,750

125K - taxed $ 38,750 125K- taxed $31,250
 
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kwo51

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Well JW some of us here are a bit over 18 seen wars come and go been part of them and even did not agree with some. What we most know is if it looks like duck it might be one. If my son told me he was an obama person I would cut him out of my will. He knows better.His sisters don't know better.They have been given their freedom by others. My son and I have earned it, and will die to keep it. The price of freedom is our fathers blood. You with a vote for obama are spitting spitting on that blood. When you die from your arrogantance you die alone. So you think he will unite this country?:help:
 
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For those who served, freedom has a flavor the protected will NEVER know! This quote has been around for a while, but still gives me chills each time it comes to mind.



gf
 

jwtollett21

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Well JW some of us here are a bit over 18 seen wars come and go been part of them and even did not agree with some. What we most know is if it looks like duck it might be one. If my son told me he was an obama person I would cut him out of my will. He knows better.His sisters don't know better.They have been given their freedom by others. My son and I have earned it, and will die to keep it. The price of freedom is our fathers blood. You with a vote for obama are spitting spitting on that blood. When you die from your arrogant you die alone. So you think he will unite this country?:help:

That is the most idiotic statement i have heard on this site i think. i have heard alot but that may top them all. Why is it if obama wins then we lose our freedom. Explain that for me. Why do people say if we bring our troops home we are surrendering. Why? That is crazy. I care about all those guys dying for us and i just think its been past time to get them home. The spitting on the blood stuff is some strong words brother and i quite frankly think you should take them back. I am very very thankful for our freedom and the ones who died for us so we can have freedom and a right to vote. Its time to get our troops out of iraq and quit spending 10 billion a month over there. If we want to fight terror lets go to Afganistan and get Bin Laden. Why do all you guys think he is going to do something so different. I also feel for your son. He should vote for who he feels is the best president. I'm sorry if I offend you brother but come on you are going way overboard. Your acting like we are electing a dictator or hitler or somebody.
 
That is the most idiotic statement i have heard on this site i think. i have heard alot but that may top them all. Why is it if obama wins then we lose our freedom. Explain that for me. Why do people say if we bring our troops home we are surrendering. Why? That is crazy. I care about all those guys dying for us and i just think its been past time to get them home. The spitting on the blood stuff is some strong words brother and i quite frankly think you should take them back. I am very very thankful for our freedom and the ones who died for us so we can have freedom and a right to vote. Its time to get our troops out of iraq and quit spending 10 billion a month over there. If we want to fight terror lets go to Afganistan and get Bin Laden. Why do all you guys think he is going to do something so different. I also feel for your son. He should vote for who he feels is the best president. I'm sorry if I offend you brother but come on you are going way overboard. Your acting like we are electing a dictator or hitler or somebody.

JW, all I ask is that you research those you have decided to vote for. Obama may not be that bad but PLEASE research both sides, including Biden. I think you will find the Democratic ticket isn't the savior it's made out to be.
 

kwo51

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Yes I think that we are going to have a socialist government if obama gets in and the next step is what we have been fighting against. Take it back hell no if this country is worth dying for someone has to stand in the gap.The blood of our for fathers ran in the streams of my family's South Carolina farms and it may again.:cray:
 

jwtollett21

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ronwill i have followed this election very closely and it comes down to this for me in November. Can this country stand 4 more years of George Bush. I mean 90 percent of the time mccain voted with the bush administration. Thats enough for me.

I Still disagree kwo. No one is giving up freedom here. I admire your bravery and patriotism and love for this country, i share that with you and it makes me mad at the people that don't appreciate what our soldiers and fore fathers did for us. but i just don't see where you are drawing these conclusions. We will be as free as ever its just a bunch of fear and smear the republicans run on every election. There is no substance to what they are saying all they got is to try and run someones name in the ground instead of talk about issues. Why does John Mccain want to turn the topic off the economy when that is the number one issue and concern in america. Scared is why. Everybody is against socialism until they need bailed out or need the government.
 

HK4U

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Everybody is against socialism until they need bailed out or need the government.
Actually socialism is what got us where we are and we do not need more of the same or worse. That is what we will get from Nobama.
 

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