Who do you like for President in 2008?


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kwo51

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I thought he wanted to legilize everything. I like Huck and Fred
 

dubccat51

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I'll vote for Thompson, Huckabee or Paul. If Giuliani gets the nomination, I'm voting third party since he is basically a "Compassionate Conservative" Hitler. Thompson and Huckabee are probably the most electable two Republican Candidates with views that will bring in a lot of voters but neither one is perfect. Ron Paul is closest to Thomas Jefferson in his political views and since I am too I would love it if he got the Republican nomination but I doubt it's gonna happen. I was originally set on Thompson when he entered the race but I'm definetly liking Huckabee more and more especially since Chuck Norris will kill me if I don't support him.
 

PascalFleischman

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Anybody know anything about Duncan Hunter? I heard him yesterday on, I think, Mike McConnell's show. I REALLY liked his immigration stance. I don't konw much else about him, though.
 

BluesStringer

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Hunter or Tancredo possess just as good of conservative bonafides as Huckabee, including support for the FairTax with both of them, but Bohemian has a point when he says that only Huckabee has fairly extensive executive experience.

I too was a Thompson supporter when the rumors first started flyin' of his run, but I have learned a lot about him since then and cannot support him anymore. Great actor. Even a better'n average conservative, but in the primaries we don't have to judge on the lesser of two evils, but rather, on who's on the right side of the most issues that are important to each of us as an individual. I can feel great about Huckabee, Hunter or Tancredo. All of 'em are on the right side of every issue that I hold as my most important. Huckabee gets the nod from me only because of his executive experience and the fact that his campaign is more deeply rooted in running on the FairTax.

I am not an athiest, but I'm not religious in any way in my own life. Haven't been to church for decades and can't recall the last time I actually prayed. I am not, however, the least bit put off by Huckabee's status as a Baptist preacher. I am not paranoid of religious people at all. More power to him if it helps him get through the day. Romney's Mormonism is 100% meaningless to me as well, as it should be with anyone who claims to support the whole Constitution. It's their right to believe or not as they see fit. Whether a candidate believes or not, or how he chooses to worship according to his beliefs if he does, is simply not a part of my criteria for scrutinizing him.

The only reason I brought up that last point is that I wonder how many people in this country do include that in their criteria. If there's too many that are uncomfortable with very religious people , Huckabee's going to have an even tougher time of it than he has right now being in 4th place. Do any of y'all know of any poll data that attempts to show how important, or unimportant, a candidate's religious beliefs and affiliations are to the masses?

Blues
 

HK4U

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President

Hunter or Tancredo possess just as good of conservative bonafides as Huckabee, including support for the FairTax with both of them, but Bohemian has a point when he says that only Huckabee has fairly extensive executive experience.

I too was a Thompson supporter when the rumors first started flyin' of his run, but I have learned a lot about him since then and cannot support him anymore. Great actor. Even a better'n average conservative, but in the primaries we don't have to judge on the lesser of two evils, but rather, on who's on the right side of the most issues that are important to each of us as an individual. I can feel great about Huckabee, Hunter or Tancredo. All of 'em are on the right side of every issue that I hold as my most important. Huckabee gets the nod from me only because of his executive experience and the fact that his campaign is more deeply rooted in running on the FairTax.

I am not an athiest, but I'm not religious in any way in my own life. Haven't been to church for decades and can't recall the last time I actually prayed. I am not, however, the least bit put off by Huckabee's status as a Baptist preacher. I am not paranoid of religious people at all. More power to him if it helps him get through the day. Romney's Mormonism is 100% meaningless to me as well, as it should be with anyone who claims to support the whole Constitution. It's their right to believe or not as they see fit. Whether a candidate believes or not, or how he chooses to worship according to his beliefs if he does, is simply not a part of my criteria for scrutinizing him.

The only reason I brought up that last point is that I wonder how many people in this country do include that in their criteria. If there's too many that are uncomfortable with very religious people , Huckabee's going to have an even tougher time of it than he has right now being in 4th place. Do any of y'all know of any poll data that attempts to show how important, or unimportant, a candidate's religious beliefs and affiliations are to the masses?

Blues



I am very much a Christian and attend church on a regular basis. I study the scriptures and pray. However the last time I voted for someone primarly because he claimed to be a Christian was Carter and we all know how that turned out. I am not any way inferring anything bad about Huckabee. He may be a great Christian and make a good president. It is just that I have a wait and see attitude when it comes to much of what polititions say. I remember the first President Bush said a lot of things about his NRA membership and his "read my lips, no new taxes" when running. We all know now how truthfull he was.
 

Big Bubba

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Huckabee

If I were voting right now, Huckabee would be my man. I'am just not sure he is a strong enough contender, to pull off a win.
 

Ektarr

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Well, we get to vote in the Primary on Tuesday. I'll be voting for Huckabee based upon what I've read here. I was a Fred man going in, but I do feel now that Huck is the more conservative Conservative. Rudi's not an option for me on the basis of his Liberal positions when Mayor of New Yawk. I believe him to be a RINO. Same with McCain. I admire and respect McCain's military background and love him for his sacrifice for us, but he lost me with McCain-Feingold and I can't ever get past that...not for President. Romney's religion is a non-issue for me but he's not my man...his Massachusettes connection makes him too suspect for me. I just . . . we just . . . can't afford to take that chance in today's political climate, both within and without. The others are just not on my radar and would have to do something really remarkable to get my attention now...sorry.

I don't expect everyone to follow my lead and vote the same, but there is something to be said for 'Strength in Numbers'. If we DO all manage to come to agreement on whom to vote for, even the lurkers among us (I see you there, you li'l dickens! ;) ), we could make a ripple in the process that would help serve our ends, and help lend credibility to the Nominee among other Conservatives/Republicans.

Either way, vote early/vote often, and we'll see where we are on Wednesday. And may God have mercy on us all.
 
Ron Paul on the 2A:

Let airlines make rules about passenger guns to fight terror. (Sep 2007)
Opposes the DC Gun Ban; it's not just a "collective right". (Mar 2007)
Ease procedures on the purchase and registration of firearms. (Nov 1996)
Allow law-abiding citizens to carry concealed firearms. (Nov 1996)
Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)
Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)
Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)
Support the Second Amendment . (Dec 2000)
Rated A by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun rights voting record. (Dec 2003)
 

NDS

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Voting for Dems and Reps is the problem

It always amazes me when I see those "Had enough? Vote (insert d or r)" bumper stickers. That is why the country is messed up. There is only one person running that I have supported for anything in the past, and given the chance I will vote for him again.

Ron Paul--a change for a change.
 

HK4U

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President

It always amazes me when I see those "Had enough? Vote (insert d or r)" bumper stickers. That is why the country is messed up. There is only one person running that I have supported for anything in the past, and given the chance I will vote for him again.

Ron Paul--a change for a change.[/QUOT


+1
 

kwo51

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The moral fiber of the person is what i'm interest in. Are they all lawyers-liars or fryers?
 

Bohemian

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I generally agree with the republican or democrat resentment; and IF there was a candidate of ANY other party with actual executive experience actually leading a government or former general, admiral etc., that was more interested in what the people think then what he/she thinks or the liberal biased media thinks; then I could get behind such a person; Ron Paul is too narrow minded for me to support his endeavor for the executive branch; in my opinion his niche is as a representative in congress.

Ron Paul, waffle-man extraordinaire, has flip-flopped many times...

Ron Paul Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)

Ron Paul Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)

Ron Paul Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)

Ron Paul Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)

Ron Paul says No tax funding for organizations that promote abortion. (Sep 2007)

Ron Paul Voted NO on subjecting federal employees to random drug tests. (Sep 1998)

Ron Paul Voted NO on more prosecution and sentencing for juvenile crime. (Jun 1999)

The same Ron Paul that claims to want to secure our borders militarily; Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism. (Sep 2001)

Ron Paul says U.S. should Repeal most federal drug laws... (Sep 2007)

Ron Paul says Foreign aid often more harmful than helpful. (Dec 2000)

Ron Paul says Not US role to monitor eradication of legal slavery in Sudan. (Sep 2007)

Ron Paul Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)

Voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)

Ron Paul Voted NO on Constitutionally defining marriage as one-man-one-woman. (Jul 2006)

Ron Paul says Don't ask, don't tell is a decent policy for gays in army. (Jun 2007)

Ron Paul says No legislation to counteract the homosexual agenda. (Sep 2007)

AND FOR THOSE WHOM THINK RON PAUL HAS A PERFECT ANTI-GUN CONTROL RECORD; (OR CONSTITUTIONAL RECORD) YOUR WRONG AGAIN...

Ron Paul Voted NO on prohibiting suing gun makers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)

Ron Paul Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)

Ron Paul thinks gun manufacturers and gun sellers should be liable for crimes committed with guns they sold legally...

For those that would argue that the Constitution does not prevent law suits against gun sellers and manufacturers; recognize this for what it is; the liberals have learned they can not get obvious gun control passed as legislation anymore; so they are now getting subtle about it so it does not raise so many red flags: E.G.:

Allowing seemingly frivolous law suits against gun manufacturers & sellers (gun shops, web site auctions, private individuals, gunbroker.com, auctionarms.com etc) for crimes committed by criminals is a indirect route to infringement of the right to keep and bear arms...
E.G. The BATF has all but put out of business the small town gun shops across America; have you lived in the same down for several decades? take a look around; where did all the gun shops go? how come not all pawn shops sell guns anymore?

Would it be more obvious if all American Car Manufacturers or Car Dealerships could be sued every time somebody committed a crime involving a car that they made or sold?

Ron Paul Voted NO on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003)

(I take it very personal when a politician thinks it is ok to burn the flag that I bled for...)

Ron Paul the libertarian, flip-flopping zealot running as a Republican does not have a record of supporting the issues and policies he claims to...

Mike Huckabee has a stellar & consistent record of actually supporting the issues and policies he claims to; Ron Paul does not; and Mike Huckabee has more proven executive experience actually leading and running a government then any candidate on either side...

RON PAUL HAS NONE...

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/

Mike Huckabee on the issues and policy
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.Home

With your support Mike Huckabee can be the nominee; we all know that he
is better then liberal gun grabbing Rudy, "I will bring the assault weapons ban back" Mitt, "I love amnesty" John or flip-flopping, bumbling Fred whom can not remember that he has been on the opposite side of the fence on every issue he NOW claims to support; and he is a documented huge sellout on the second amendment as well...

Who can beat Hillary?

Who can stop the Clinton machine dead in its tracks?

In former President Slick-Willie Clinton's own words... "Mike Huckabee"

The only Presidential candidate running from any party whom has ever faced the Clinton political machine and defeated it is Governor Mike Huckabee!

Not once, Not Twice, Not Three Times; FOUR TIMES!
Every time Mike Huckabee faced the Clinton political machine in an election he defeated them soundly…
Not withstanding being out spent in excess of a 100 Clinton dollars to 1 of Huckabee’s…

Donate a dollar or more to show your support for Mike Huckabee; "A Buck For Huck!"
https://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contribute.Home

Its a win win situation; Vote for Mike Huckabee and Chuck Norris will let you live for four more years...
:)

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AND HUCKABEE HAS NEVER BEEN A LAWYER
 

Bohemian

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Part of our backward culture is reflected in the fact that we measure and value people by what they do, instead of first who they are. As a result, we nominate charisma, cast votes for articulation and repeatedly elect too many paper-thin corrupt politicians. Of course, I want a president who gets things done, but I first want one who has lived a life of integrity, commitment, truthfulness and respect. Mike is that man…

Mike is a compassionate Christian conservative. Though solid in his faith and standing for traditional family values, he’s not an uncaring extremist. He lives what he believes, and respects others’ beliefs even when they disagree with him, committed to a republic that was founded upon the free exercise of religion…

As with the other candidates, Huckabee has, and will continue to have, his hecklers: “He hasn’t raised enough money.” “He’ll never beat Hillary.” “Our society is too prejudice and paranoid to vote for a once Baptist minister.” “He’ll never out-race the top four Republican candidates.”

I was thinking about these types of comments the other day when I recalled another leader in ancient times that didn’t match up in the line up: King David. Seven men were poised and paraded for the position of king, but David was left in the field shepherding because he wasn’t “a frontrunner in the polls.” They overlooked the best because they were too busy judging by outward appearance. But God appointed David king...

Read the full story:
Why Chuck Norris Endorses Mike Huckabee
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http://www.mikehuckabee.com/

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HK4U

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Ron Paul

I generally agree with the republican or democrat resentment; and IF there was a candidate of ANY other party with actual executive experience actually leading a government or former general, admiral etc., that was more interested in what the people think then what he/she thinks or the liberal biased media thinks; then I could get behind such a person; Ron Paul is too narrow minded for me to support his endeavor for the executive branch; in my opinion his niche is as a representative in congress.

Ron Paul, waffle-man extraordinaire, has flip-flopped many times...

Ron Paul Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)

Ron Paul Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)

Ron Paul Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)

Ron Paul Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)

Ron Paul says No tax funding for organizations that promote abortion. (Sep 2007)

Ron Paul Voted NO on subjecting federal employees to random drug tests. (Sep 1998)

Ron Paul Voted NO on more prosecution and sentencing for juvenile crime. (Jun 1999)

The same Ron Paul that claims to want to secure our borders militarily; Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism. (Sep 2001)

Ron Paul says U.S. should Repeal most federal drug laws... (Sep 2007)

Ron Paul says Foreign aid often more harmful than helpful. (Dec 2000)

Ron Paul says Not US role to monitor eradication of legal slavery in Sudan. (Sep 2007)

Ron Paul Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)

Voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)

Ron Paul Voted NO on Constitutionally defining marriage as one-man-one-woman. (Jul 2006)

Ron Paul says Don't ask, don't tell is a decent policy for gays in army. (Jun 2007)

Ron Paul says No legislation to counteract the homosexual agenda. (Sep 2007)

AND FOR THOSE WHOM THINK RON PAUL HAS A PERFECT ANTI-GUN CONTROL RECORD; (OR CONSTITUTIONAL RECORD) YOUR WRONG AGAIN...

Ron Paul Voted NO on prohibiting suing gun makers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)

Ron Paul Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)

Ron Paul thinks gun manufacturers and gun sellers should be liable for crimes committed with guns they sold legally...

For those that would argue that the Constitution does not prevent law suits against gun sellers and manufacturers; recognize this for what it is; the liberals have learned they can not get obvious gun control passed as legislation anymore; so they are now getting subtle about it so it does not raise so many red flags: E.G.:

Allowing seemingly frivolous law suits against gun manufacturers & sellers (gun shops, web site auctions, private individuals, gunbroker.com, auctionarms.com etc) for crimes committed by criminals is a indirect route to infringement of the right to keep and bear arms...
E.G. The BATF has all but put out of business the small town gun shops across America; have you lived in the same down for several decades? take a look around; where did all the gun shops go? how come not all pawn shops sell guns anymore?

Would it be more obvious if all American Car Manufacturers or Car Dealerships could be sued every time somebody committed a crime involving a car that they made or sold?

Ron Paul Voted NO on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003)

(I take it very personal when a politician thinks it is ok to burn the flag that I bled for...)

Ron Paul the libertarian, flip-flopping zealot running as a Republican does not have a record of supporting the issues and policies he claims to...

Mike Huckabee has a stellar & consistent record of actually supporting the issues and policies he claims to; Ron Paul does not; and Mike Huckabee has more proven executive experience actually leading and running a government then any candidate on either side...

RON PAUL HAS NONE...

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/

Mike Huckabee on the issues and policy
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.Home

With your support Mike Huckabee can be the nominee; we all know that he
is better then liberal gun grabbing Rudy, "I will bring the assault weapons ban back" Mitt, "I love amnesty" John or flip-flopping, bumbling Fred whom can not remember that he has been on the opposite side of the fence on every issue he NOW claims to support; and he is a documented huge sellout on the second amendment as well...

Who can beat Hillary?

Who can stop the Clinton machine dead in its tracks?

In former President Slick-Willie Clinton's own words... "Mike Huckabee"

The only Presidential candidate running from any party whom has ever faced the Clinton political machine and defeated it is Governor Mike Huckabee!

Not once, Not Twice, Not Three Times; FOUR TIMES!
Every time Mike Huckabee faced the Clinton political machine in an election he defeated them soundly…
Not withstanding being out spent in excess of a 100 Clinton dollars to 1 of Huckabee’s…

Donate a dollar or more to show your support for Mike Huckabee; "A Buck For Huck!"
https://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contribute.Home

Its a win win situation; Vote for Mike Huckabee and Chuck Norris will let you live for four more years...
:)

banner_mikehuckabee.gif


AND HUCKABEE HAS NEVER BEEN A LAWYER



What part of his being against the murder of unborn babies do you object to?
 

kwo51

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Ted Nuggent well that would be a trip. Clean up potty mouth first. Then killem and grill nm
 

flounder22

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I haven't decided, but I'm in the A.B.C.D camp!

+ another one on that!!! There is still a little time left for us to ponder these guys and make a wise choice. We will be in big trouble if we slip up and let this woman or any of the idiot Democrats slide in there. :eek:
 
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