What's going on in Colorado?

[Kramer1113]

What in the world is going on in Colorado? I'm listening to the news and not believing my ears. Are they really headed towards 15 round max mags for their rifles? Many hand guns hold that and more. If The Great State Of Colorado goes this way I fear the nation will soon follow. I'm a Florida resident but when I read and hear this about Colorado it really makes me stop and take notice.

 

[SR40c]

Colorado, like everywhere else, is being dumbed down with Progressive Socialism. Hopefully people refuse to comply.

 

[Oldgrunt]

I was stationed out there for three years and it was a sportsman's paradise. No such thing as gun control problems and every place I went I saw guns, especially during hunting season. Guns were not an issue and I traveled the state with mine. Biggest issue then was wearing international orange clothing/jacket when in the field. Maybe there was an influx of people from other states who were anti-gunners and wanted the law changed to the same as the place they just left and screwed it up for everybody. Never heard of an idiotic state representative ever make a stupid statement of using callboxes, whistles or peeing oneself as a rape deterrent either. Another example of the lunacy that has overtaken our society. Thankfully they can't change the scenery!

 

[mclureb]

Too many west coast transplants and too much money from the democrat super pacs. Basically the past few elections were purchased while we weren't paying attention. Interesting read from the Denver Post.

Spending by super PACs in Colorado is the dominion of Democrats - The Denver Post

Time to make sure over the next 18 months that Coloradan's understand this and elect candidates that actually will support the constitution and value freedom and liberty.

 

[Kramer1113]

I hope people are paying attention, Not Colorado... The Dominion of Democrats? I never thought of outsiders moving into the state. I know people are leaving California in droves due to taxation and an overbearing government. I wonder if they are influence pedaling in Colorado?

 

[Austin]

I love how they leave one state due to their liberal laws, then want them passed in their new state of residence.

 

[Deserteagle]

Colorado was taken over by the democrats who keep moving here from California. Those pricks wont stay away. They ruin their own state and then move to Colorado to ruin my state. Not to mention the idiot democrats we get from Chicago and the east coast...

 

[JohnD13]

It seems like the Colorado legislature is trying to keep up with Cuomo/Bloomberg. Does the govenor of Colorado have presidential dreams too?

 

[Kramer1113]

From what I gather they are waiting until tomorrow (Monday, March 11th 2013) to hold the vote on Magazine size (15 rounds for rifles) and continue the debate on further gun control measures.
I am waiting for Fox News to post more information about this.
I expected NY to react in an unfriendly way. But, Colorado? As Oldgrunt stated, Colorado is/was as gun friendly as it got.
Watch closely to what happens. IMHO Colorado is setting the stage for this to play out all over Our Great United States Of America.

 

[BC1]

Colorado, like everywhere else, is being dumbed down with Progressive Socialism. Hopefully people refuse to comply.

The cancer is spreading from NYS. Anti-gun legislators saw Cuomo get away with it and have a new-found spirit for violating our rights.

 

[Nightmare45]

As a constitutional Republic any law they pass does not affect the 2nd amendment in anyway.

 

[BluesStringer]

There's an awful lot of hippies left over from the 60s and 70s in CO. While back then, hippies were pretty much apolitical, they have evolved into the modern "typical" leftist. Environmentalism has a strong foothold in CO, which is a backdoor avenue into all-out Marxism. The basis of Marxism permeated the Rockies with communes dotting the countryside when I moved there in '74. Boulder, Colorado Springs, Aspen, Telluride, Fort Collins and all the other college towns or tourist traps where Hollywood imports buy up hyper-inflated properties that they visit once or twice a year are areas completely awash with leftists. The only surprise to me about CO going nuts with gun-control is that it took this long.

Blues

 

[CharlesMorrison]

Unconstitutional Official Acts

16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256:

The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be In agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows:

The General rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it's enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted.

Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it.....

A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the lend, it is superseded thereby.

No one Is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.

Jon Roland:

Strictly speaking, an unconstitutional statute is not a "law", and should not be called a "law", even if it is sustained by a court, for a finding that a statute or other official act is constitutional does not make it so, or confer any authority to anyone to enforce it.

All citizens and legal residents of the United States, by their presence on the territory of the United States, are subject to the militia duty, the duty of the social compact that creates the society, which requires that each, alone and in concert with others, not only obey the Constitution and constitutional official acts, but help enforce them, if necessary, at the risk of one's life.

Any unconstitutional act of an official will at least be a violation of the oath of that official to execute the duties of his office, and therefore grounds for his removal from office. No official immunity or privileges of rank or position survive the commission of unlawful acts. If it violates the rights of individuals, it is also likely to be a crime, and the militia duty obligates anyone aware of such a violation to investigate it, gather evidence for a prosecution, make an arrest, and if necessary, seek an indictment from a grand jury, and if one is obtained, prosecute the offender in a court of law.

 

[UATKP]

As a constitutional Republic any law they pass does not affect the 2nd amendment in anyway.

I agree with you, Nightmare45, and also with Charles Morrison's post. But I have this to add to that:
Since the laws that the federal government so insidiously passed are invalid, how do I go about picking up an old classic, like a Thompson sub-machine gun? I can't just go to the store and buy one now, can I?
Well, if that's the case, then the law is doing what they intended it to do... it keeps me from getting something that I want. Because the people that have them won't sell them, because it's against the invalid law.

I suggest we just write a nice letter to those nice folks in DC that are making all these invalid laws and tell them to stop. That's been really effective in the past, hasn't it.
Suppose we just write them a nice letter and tell them that they're fired... oh that'll do a lot, too.
So, what else is left?

I'm too old and tired to fight, and don't have enough money to get to DC to b-i-t-c-h. So I'll just wait for the bastards to come after me, and shoot them off my porch. Then someone can put a link in this forum to an article about some "right-wing Constitutionalist fanatic who was clinging to his guns and Bible", getting his old worn out ass killed in his foyer, by a DHS swat team who was making the United States of Amerika a safer place with its invalid laws.

 

[JackBadger]

I hope people are paying attention, Not Colorado... The Dominion of Democrats? I never thought of outsiders moving into the state. I know people are leaving California in droves due to taxation and an overbearing government. I wonder if they are influence pedaling in Colorado?

That is exactly what is going on here. They left the state that they ruined and then brought the same metality that ruined their state to ours. Jackturds

 

[Kramer1113]

Many of the problems that currently exist are because there are so many interpretations of the 2nd Amendment. The Constitution was written to mean one thing. The Amendments were written to mean one thing. Forgive me when I say that when Lawyers become involved the meanings become twisted and spun in ways they were never intended to be.
I continually hear the argument that the 2nd amendment was never intended to include "Assault Weapons" (Black Guns, The Scary ones don't ya know). If We The People are to be able to defend or change the government with our weapons, don't you think we need some really modern weapons to get the job done?
From my short time in the Army (1980-1984) I understand what kind of fire power the government had then. How would We, The People of The United States of America ever overthrow a corrupt government if we are limited to the weapons we are "Allowed" to own?
One of the greatest arguments that can be made for legal gun ownership is the almost complete lack of crimes committed by legal gun owners.
I am a legal gun owner and I shall not commit a crime with my weapons. However, if the government makes my weapons illegal to own then I shall be made guilty of a crime.

 

[SR40c]

Progressive Liberalism (Socialism) is nothing more than a Social Cancer. It rots the host from within. That's exactly what is happening is it not?

 

[Deserteagle]

It also doesnt help that we had the theater shooting here. I think any state that has a mass murder that gets as much publicity as the theater shooting did will be sure to pass gun control laws. The media is very attracted to shootings. It gets them off to report about it and spread their anti-gun message.

 

[ezkl2230]

On the up side, HB 13-1226 (ban on concealed handguns on college campuses) was pulled.

 

[BluesStringer]

Link Removed about the five bills that did pass.

Commierado Senate Passes All 5 Anti-Gun Bills

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I don't need to summarize. You can read it Link Removed.

Well, we tried to tell them.

We wrote letters. We made phone calls. We sent e-mails. We packed their Town Hall meetings. We testified in the House and Senate meetings. We honked our horns in disapproval.

And they, as expected, ignored us.

It was all for nothing, some may say.

I disagree.

They've been warned. Now they have no excuse when the blow back hits them. We tried to work within the system and they rigged it against us.

In the end, it does not matter what they decide.

We will not comply.

We will not submit to background checks for private party transactions.

We will continue to purchase standard capacity magazines and bring them in State.

We will not turn our guns in...court order or not.

We will not acknowledge unjust and treasonous laws.

We will not be subjugated.

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It's going to get real.

Decide what you will do now.

You should have an answer already.

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Posted by Ironwill III at Monday, March 11, 201


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I was not familiar with that particular blog until tonight when, just out of curiosity, I did a search on "reaction to new Colorado gun laws." This blog is hardly atypical once you toss out the more mainstream hits on the search. The first comment following the post says:

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Mr. Flashpoint, meet Mr. Match.

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And the last comment as of this writing says:

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Who despises a vile person
but honors those who fear the Lord;
Who keeps an OATH even when it hurts,
and does not change their mind;
Psalms 15:4

Let those who have broken their oath to the Constitution and
sacred office reap the same as they have sown.

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Nothing good can come from these jackals' bad mistake. I personally don't think the 2A proponents in CO were as thoroughly conditioned to accept this kind of usurpation as NY, MA, NJ and other highly restrictive states have been. If there is any fight left in Americans, there may well be some severe blow-back for those idiot legislators. Time will tell....

Blues