What is the best rail mount flashlight for the money

NewlyEnthused

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I am thinking of getting a rail mount flashlight for my Beretta PX4 Compact instead of trying to juggle a handheld one.

Problem is, there are as many kinds of flashlights out there as thee are guns.

Is a rail mount the same for all makes?
How bright (Lumens) is recommended?
Is there a name brand that is more durable than others?

OR, do I just invest in some flash grenades and shoot whatever is still standing.
 
I am thinking of getting a rail mount flashlight for my Beretta PX4 Compact instead of trying to juggle a handheld one.

Not to dissuade you from buying one, but consider that you'll need a holster for each configuration, with and without the light mounted.

Is a rail mount the same for all makes?

No, but a high quality light will come with adapters to make them fit all rails. My Streamlight TLR-2 came with three different rail-stops. The one that came already installed fits most rails, then one was for Smith & Wesson models only (which is what I bought it for), and I don't know what the last one was made to fit, but there is obviously at least one other manufacturer that doesn't comply with the most universal rail-stop fitment specs.

How bright (Lumens) is recommended?

No pun intended, but that's a loaded question. There are so many variables. My TLR-2 is one of, if not *the* first iterations of the TLR line. I couldn't remember what the light was rated at, so before telling you something wrong, I went and checked the original packaging. I was surprised to find that it's only rated at 80 lumens. They're making the same model with a 650 lumen option now. I think the base option is 300 lumens (not 100% positive about that though), and I don't think they make anything below that now. Now, my 80 lumen version has a very focused beam. There is no discernible spot with a wide spill, it's just all very focused spot. As such, 80 lumens has a very impressive throw (distance). I have ~200 lumen hand-helds that don't seem any brighter because so much of the light is lost in the spill. They will light a wider area, but their throw is nowhere near as good as the TLR-2.

I'm not trying to get you to buy a Streamlight, but consider that their warranty is second to none. Lifetime warranty on the light. I had to send mine in to get work done on the laser (TLR-1 comes without a laser) and they didn't even ask if I was the original owner or not. Just sent it in and it was back in less time than they told me it might take. I'm sure Surefire comes with a decent warranty too, probably Insight as well, but I know Streamlight's customer service and turn-around went way above my expectations, so I thought I'd throw that in.

Is there a name brand that is more durable than others?

I like Streamlight, but I know other brands (at least Surefire and Insight) make good ones too.

OR, do I just invest in some flash grenades and shoot whatever is still standing.

Nah, buy a light and save the flash-bangs for when the gun-grabbers come for your gun(s?). They'll be throwin' 'em at you, might as well throw 'em back. :biggrin:

Blues
 
Thanks,
But, all the Streamlight (I haven't checked the rest) will extend past the muzzle. I know they have a good warranty, but won't this cause some damage to the light?
 
I have the rail-mounted Streamlight TLR-1s rated at 300 lumens on my Glock 19 and the hand-held Streamlight ProTac HL rated at 600 lumens.

The TLR-1s (strobe version) does extend past the muzzle, but that is not a problem. There will be some burned powder on it after shooting, but it can be easily wiped off. It has a sturdy aluminum housing and an easy to use paddle switch. I am using the Glock 19 with the mounted TLR-1s for home defense and have an OWB Kydex holster for it. The light can be easily removed, which I do for outside-the-home carry in an IWB Crossbreed holster.

I use my Streamlight ProTac HL for outside-the-home carry, especially in gun-free zones. It has a sturdy aluminum housing and a button switch. It will temporary blind an attacker and makes a good blunt instrument. It has a directly-attached belt clip and fits inside a jeans pocket.

When it comes to lumens, there are differences in terms of the total light output and the central beam. Too much lumens indoors is also not good. You may not only blind your opponent, but also blind or impair yourself due to the indirect light. Plus, you light yourself up quite a bit, which is a problem if there is more than one attacker. Look up James Yeager's low light videos to get some insight.

Unless you have some tactical training, flash-bangs will impair you as well. I am not even sure if there is a good use case for them in terms of self/home defense. You should't be in the same room when one goes off. Tinnitus before you fired a single shot and fire hazard come to mind. There are legal issues as well. Looks like actual flash-bangs are ATF controlled explosive devices. There also may be state-specific laws, and even county/city specific ordinances.
 
The advantages of a weapon mounted light are self-evident.

Presumably, the light is always on the gun, where it's needed, dedicated to one purpose.

With a weapon mounted light you have one hand free to open and close doors, dial 911, or let loose the dog!

With a quality weapon mounted light you can flash-light an entire room by skipping the beam off the ceiling--more than enough to see if the room's occupied by someone other than the wife!

In the direct glare, the light will surely momentarily blind the perp, giving you a chance to appraise whether or not they're armed (I know the old argument that you can hold a flashlight well away from your body, so if the intruder shoots at it... Well, who says he's a good shot, and won't hit you anyway? Besides, you can remove the weapon light from the gun and do the same thing...).

Held at gun point, the perp is disadvantaged by the glare, while you can clearly appraise the situation, while still having a free hand, if needed.

Proper use of a weapon light requires training, and/or well thought out drills--just like a laser does! You don't stroll through the house with a point and shoot beacon blazing!

Cops and soldiers alike, consider their weapon lights iindispensable.
 
NewlyEnthused,

There is much debate on this issue. Before you commit to putting one on your firearm and then have to go through getting new holsters, think of several scenarios in your own home or out and about in your life.

If the light was on your firearm and you pointed that light, would you be pointing your firearm at your family in some of those scenarios? Yes, Eidolon said point the firearm up and let the light bounce off the ceiling. This is good advice to not point your firearm at your loved ones. However, with a small, high lumen handheld you get to to point the light where you want and the firearm where you want.

Here's a site that goes through the different carry methods of a flashlight with a handgun. Low Light Essentials #9 - Training - Hand-held Light Techniques

I prefer the Harries method, for what its worth. I also don't have a flashlight on my handgun.

I also don't have small children that I will be carrying in a situation where I'm gathering my family either.
 
Op, did you end up picking out a light? I'm undecided now for my FNX, I'll probably pick up the X5LR, but the TLR's look pretty good too...The surefire X300 looks good too.

I will get a high output light for my handgun when I start hiking again...

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Op, did you end up picking out a light? I'm undecided now for my FNX, I'll probably pick up the X5LR, but the TLR's look pretty good too...The surefire X300 looks good too.

I will get a high output light for my handgun when I start hiking again...

Sent from my HTCONE using USA Carry mobile app

I did not yet. After looking at the info from Wolf, I think I will go separate for both cost and versatility. Trying to save my pennies, the problem is so many things I want to get, but only so many pennies to go around.
 
I did not yet. After looking at the info from Wolf, I think I will go separate for both cost and versatility. Trying to save my pennies, the problem is so many things I want to get, but only so many pennies to go around.

Yeah, to each their own. Plenty of good advice for either method. Luckily I all ready have a pair of hand held lights I can use...still have my fair share of pennies to save up for my next mounted light...then to a suppressor...

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