What if you saw a Law Enforcement Officer in Trouble?


A simple traffic ticket would the least of your worries in a potentially lethal encounter helping a LEO.

And you never answered my question above, why is that?

"I pretty much said what EM said, just shorter. You going to take him to task also? If not, why not? "

Not sure who "EM" is. I haven't read every post on this thread but if "EM"'s views are similar to yours then I'll disagree with him/her as well.

My idea of helping a LEO doesn't include persuing the BG if they take off running. I'm not going to chase somebody down the street, shooting at them as they go. That's the kind of stuff that gets you in trouble. My intent in such a situation would be to aid the officer until there was no longer a direct threat. If that means making the BG run away, fine. At that point my work is done.
 

The more of the responses I read the more it seems to me that we each view this scenario differently. I was viewing it as coming up on an officer in a gunfight, and joining him in returning fire. That I'm not going to do. I'm also not going to run a car off the road for an officer. If the officer is getting his @ss kicked then I may assist (I did not consider that scenario). I also didn't consider one like the DC sniper situation where several truckers blocked the shooter's car in so they were trapped until the police got there.

I guess it more of depends on the situation. One thing is clear though - if my family is with me I am going to sure as he!! get them clear first.
 
Then you sound suited for getting physically involved if you have had that much fighting experience. Not everyone has.

Good point but that's not a reason people are giving for not wanting to get involved. Not once has somebody said "I'm too small" etc., etc. I'm responding to the people who're saying stuff like "I don't want to risk it" or "I might get a ticket" or "Cops are scumbags and deserve what they get". These are people who apparently could do something but they would choose not to for, IMO, really weak reasons.

Being a 5' 100lb woman is a very good reason for not jumping into the fray. Turning a blind eye because they don't feel like getting involved is not a good reason to me.
 
The more of the responses I read the more it seems to me that we each view this scenario differently. I was viewing it as coming up on an officer in a gunfight, and joining him in returning fire. That I'm not going to do. I'm also not going to run a car off the road for an officer. If the officer is getting his @ss kicked then I may assist (I did not consider that scenario). I also didn't consider one like the DC sniper situation where several truckers blocked the shooter's car in so they were trapped until the police got there.

I guess it more of depends on the situation. One thing is clear though - if my family is with me I am going to sure as he!! get them clear first.

I'm not joining a gun battle either unless I happen to already be in the middle of it for some reason. If I'm driving and I see a firefight between LEOs and civilians, I'm punching the gas, ducking down, and calling 911. When I talk about aiding an officer, I'm talking about helping in a fight or physical struggle of some sort....not something involving flying bullets.
 
...I'm talking about helping in a fight or physical struggle of some sort....not something involving flying bullets.

Because all fist fights NEVER have guns involved, right? There is so much unanswered, it may be a fist fight until you show up. You did see Indiana Jones right? You are right, helping by dialing 911 may be the best thing if you do not know the entire situation.
 
Because all fist fights NEVER have guns involved, right? There is so much unanswered, it may be a fist fight until you show up. You did see Indiana Jones right? You are right, helping by dialing 911 may be the best thing if you do not know the entire situation.

Never?? No, but rarely at best. I've been in the bar business for 28 yrs. I've seen countless fights. I've never seen one where a gun is produced. It happens, just not very often. I don't believe it happens often enough to make me not want to aid an officer in trouble. If you want to make excuses on why you'd do nothing then go right ahead....just please don't complain if you, a family member, or a friend are on the losing end of a situation where others could have helped but chose not to.

Do unto others.....
 
I can see there are a lot of cop haters out there. Some of you act like cops are the bad guys. I think the ones that hate cops so much do so because they keep getting themselves into trouble. Not all cops are bad. I have met some cops that are really nice and will go out of their way to help people (not just in emergency situations).

If I see a cop in trouble, I’m going to help him/her as if he/she is a person in trouble. Being a cop has nothing to do with it (Cops are people too). Of course you have to be careful doing this when you have a gun strapped to your side (other cops are going to show up). If a cop is being choked out and the BG is going for the cops gun, the BG is going to have both his hands busy. A good blast with my Sabre Pepper Spray/Tear Gas and/or a good blow to the back of his head with the butt of my knife should take him down with no problem or at least free up the cop. Even a good punch to the guys temple may do the trick. I doubt that I would ever have to pull my gun.

Most importantly, make sure your family is safe before trying to help. Have your family call 911, you will be too busy.

If you say any of these you are PREJUDICE and I have no respect for you or anyone like you:
I hate you because you are: White, Black, Mexican, Asian, Police, Cop, LEO.

Everyone is a person and should be treated that way.
 
I can see there are a lot of cop haters out there. Some of you act like cops are the bad guys. I think the ones that hate cops so much do so because they keep getting themselves into trouble. Not all cops are bad. I have met some cops that are really nice and will go out of their way to help people (not just in emergency situations).

If I see a cop in trouble, I’m going to help him/her as if he/she is a person in trouble. Being a cop has nothing to do with it (Cops are people too). Of course you have to be careful doing this when you have a gun strapped to your side (other cops are going to show up). If a cop is being choked out and the BG is going for the cops gun, the BG is going to have both his hands busy. A good blast with my Sabre Pepper Spray/Tear Gas and/or a good blow to the back of his head with the butt of my knife should take him down with no problem or at least free up the cop. Even a good punch to the guys temple may do the trick. I doubt that I would ever have to pull my gun.

Most importantly, make sure your family is safe before trying to help. Have your family call 911, you will be too busy.

If you say any of these you are PREJUDICE and I have no respect for you or anyone like you:
I hate you because you are: White, Black, Mexican, Asian, Police, Cop, LEO.

Everyone is a person and should be treated that way.

ID 9mm,

When a fight (LEO or any one, one on one is going on, it must, normally, go to the ground)
Using the butt of a knife, or any weapon, ties your strong hand up. And has you pranceing about with a live blade.

Find were the kidney is on a body map, there is one on each side, a good solid kick, keeps you off the ground, grabbing hold, has every chance of you hitting the deck also.
 
I never said I could not identify the parties. But if Party A and Party B fight, and I do not take a side, I am simply staying out of it. I do not necessarily root for anyone.

So maybe I help the cop, then the BG says he will come after me for doing so. It can happen. Here is an example of a guy who broke up a fight and paid for it hours later with his life:
Dad who split up fight in McDonald's shot dead (NOT Baltimore fight, another one, and guess who!)

Or maybe I want to stand back and video it? No thanks, that may end up with me being the bad guy:
Police beating of Las Vegas man caught on tape - News - ReviewJournal.com

I am sure neither of these men thought they would ever find themselves with this result due to their action, or else they'd have thought twice.
 
I can see there are a lot of cop haters out there. Some of you act like cops are the bad guys. I think the ones that hate cops so much do so because they keep getting themselves into trouble. Not all cops are bad. I have met some cops that are really nice and will go out of their way to help people (not just in emergency situations).

If I see a cop in trouble, I’m going to help him/her as if he/she is a person in trouble. Being a cop has nothing to do with it (Cops are people too). Of course you have to be careful doing this when you have a gun strapped to your side (other cops are going to show up). If a cop is being choked out and the BG is going for the cops gun, the BG is going to have both his hands busy. A good blast with my Sabre Pepper Spray/Tear Gas and/or a good blow to the back of his head with the butt of my knife should take him down with no problem or at least free up the cop. Even a good punch to the guys temple may do the trick. I doubt that I would ever have to pull my gun.

Most importantly, make sure your family is safe before trying to help. Have your family call 911, you will be too busy.

If you say any of these you are PREJUDICE and I have no respect for you or anyone like you:
I hate you because you are: White, Black, Mexican, Asian, Police, Cop, LEO.

Everyone is a person and should be treated that way.


Please, post the names of all these "cop haters" you see in this thread....... instead of just stating that there are alot of them here and not pointing them out.
While you are at it, please post PROOF of your accusations........

You "thinking" that most of them only "hate" cops because they "keep getting themselves into trouble" is about the dumbest thing I have seen written in this thread..... nearly ALL the examples givin as to why they dont trust police has been because of UNCONSTITUTIONAL and UNLAWFUL bullying and harassment from thugs who think that because they have a gun and a badge they can do whatever they want.....
 
Okay here is one for you. You see a cop shooting at a fleeing vehicle. Maybe you can shoot the driver. Or the tires. Or block the vehicle with yours. Or somehow get involved. I mean if the cop is using deadly force on someone running away then surely he must be a terrorist or something?

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The thing about jumping right in is that you will of course assume the cop is always right, and when he is not, now you are in the same boat as he is.
 
Please, post the names of all these "cop haters" you see in this thread....... instead of just stating that there are alot of them here and not pointing them out.
While you are at it, please post PROOF of your accusations........

You "thinking" that most of them only "hate" cops because they "keep getting themselves into trouble" is about the dumbest thing I have seen written in this thread..... nearly ALL the examples givin as to why they dont trust police has been because of UNCONSTITUTIONAL and UNLAWFUL bullying and harassment from thugs who think that because they have a gun and a badge they can do whatever they want.....

I knew you would have something to say. Just look at all your post's. You right away assume just because someone is a cop they must be bad. You make it clear that you could not get along with a cop if it was the last thing you ever did. So what side of the law are you on?
 
As a student studying to become a law enforcement officer, I have to say I respect cops. I understand that there are some bad cops as well, but there are more good than bad. If I seen a LEO in trouble and seen his life was in danger, I would without a doubt jump in and take the threat out. I would not even have to think twice. I hope when I finally do get my badge, my decisions will be just and that I will make good decisions. Until then my job is to be the best law abiding citizen as possible.
 
As a student studying to become a law enforcement officer, I have to say I respect cops. I understand that there are some bad cops as well, but there are more good than bad. If I seen a LEO in trouble and seen his life was in danger, I would without a doubt jump in and take the threat out. I would not even have to think twice. I hope when I finally do get my badge, my decisions will be just and that I will make good decisions. Until then my job is to be the best law abiding citizen as possible.

With that mindset you will be the kind of officer on CNN on trail for murder. You always have to THINK! There is no way to know for sure the officer is in the right. There is no room for officers on the street who do not think about their actions before carrying them out. If you make it through the psych test I'll be amazed!
 
I knew you would have something to say. Just look at all your post's. You right away assume just because someone is a cop they must be bad. You make it clear that you could not get along with a cop if it was the last thing you ever did. So what side of the law are you on?

Wow, he really said all that? Please do post one of his posts that states 'He can not get long with police"? Don't come back with "well he never really said it word for word, but his posts hint/point at it". Don't come on to the forums and start accusing people of thing with out hand facts to back it up. He like other members simply stated there are a lot of dirty badges out there. They then say why they would not stop and help an officer. So because of those two things they must be some hardened felon, who are posting from inside San Quentin while serving 3 to life?

How does ones views on a matter reflect on their criminal record? Oh that's right I forgot that free speech and freedom of expression are dead in the USA of "Say what you like till it offends me, or I disagree with it."
 
With that mindset you will be the kind of officer on CNN on trail for murder. You always have to THINK! There is no way to know for sure the officer is in the right. There is no room for officers on the street who do not think about their actions before carrying them out. If you make it through the psych test I'll be amazed!

Really? You would just let an officer die? Also you may have misinterpreted my meaning. Sure you have to THINK! but THINKING too much can be bad too. The question was would you help a LEO if needed be? I seen the video that the OP was referring to, and if I were a witness, without a doubt I would step in. Sir you are thinking too much and nit picking my post out of proportion.
 

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