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HK4U, thank you for explaining the process for approaching outside corners far better than I could. I have a T-shirt I got at a Street Survival seminar held by Calibre Press that shows slicing the pie. Above the picture and below is the caption, "They don't pay me to fight fair; only to win!" The picture is an officer approaching the corner and moving away from the wall until he sees the BG's foot. This prevents the BG from being able to disarm you when your gun reaches the corner. Good job, HK4U