What are your thoughts?

ESD

U.S. ARMY VETERAN
I know everyone makes mistakes in life. I know I have. But what is going on with people now days? Teens and adults are way out of control. Everyone wants to be noticed for some "over-the-top" act, just to get attention. And most times it's negative attention.

Why do we spend more money on fighting crime, then we do on building businesses and factories? Why are we building more restaurants and hotels, when most of us can't afford to enjoy these things? Why do we build more medical clinics, when we can't afford medical insurance to visit them when we're sick? You ever notice how nice the buildings are of an insurance company, medical office, or hospital? I guess we know who's making all the money?

Why are we still fighting the war on drugs? It's the plague of our society. Has been for years. And what is the result? Drug offenders who go to prison to learn how to be better criminals. Why do we continue to build prisons, and not drug treatment facilities? These people are so strung out on drugs these days, that they are breaking into homes and businesses. Even with all the modern surveillance equipment available, and the rise in homeowners whom arm themselves; it hasn't detoured these people? Why? Because they're minds and bodies are ill. They don't need to go to jail, they need mental and medicinal treatment for their illnesses.

Is there a drug problem. Ofcourse there is. But no classes in school to address them in length. Health class in high school, isn't enough. Education needs to be more proactive. And it needs to start in elementary schools. Parents of drug abusing children need to suffer real consequences for their lacking in lifestyle choices in preparing their children for a drug-free life.

I know there are jobs out there for these people. Many of them have only one daily quest. Find the means for their next fix. Most can't pass a drug test, if they did find a job? So it seems it's either jail, welfare, or disability for these people. And that just sucks for us tax payers. Our elected politicians are so out of touch with society's underworld, because they are so far removed from it. Drug deals are done on the sly, and most have mastered their "jobs" as drug dealers. So why do we continue to dump millions into the war on drugs?

I've noticed over the past several years that there are bootcamp type jails for lessor criminals and juveniles. Why not build facilities to detox these addicts? Run them through a bootcamp type facility to build their minds and bodies, and then retrain them to work again in society through some vocational type facility. Make it a process, they won't ever want to repeat. Detox, bootcamp, vocational retraining. They would have to successfully pass one phase, before moving onto the next.

I understand that there are many of these people who are not only addicts, but they're lazy. Maybe they haven't worked a day in their lives since dropping out, or graduating high school? They live attached to their cellphones, video games, their drug or alcohol of choice, and a bag of Doritos. I get that they may never attend college, or even attempt to. So what is left? Well, alot. They're are jobs out there. I see them in the paper everyday. It maybe a minimum wage job, but it's a start.

Problem is, these people are hooked on these drugs, and they can't break free from their daily routine of drugs, they don't want to work, they can't pass a drug screen, and they have more excuses for why they don't have a job, then money in their pockets to buy drugs or alcohol. But the worst problem we have...these people still have the idea that they are "entitled". They don't want to work at McDonalds for $8/hr. They feel like they should just get paid as much as anyone else doing their job. Even if that person has been there for 10 or 20 years, and earned their pay scale.

It's not just the drugs that are bringing our society down. What is going on with adults having sex with kids? Teachers, coaches, police officers, doctors, politicians, the neighbor down the street, etc... What about all these online crooks stealing identities, financial information, etc....? And what is going one with our kids all dressing and acting like gang thugs? And why is it that all I ever see on television, is insurance company commercials anymore? If they are making so much money that they can run television ads; it's no wonder we have inflated insurance rates! There's just no moral middle ground anymore.

It's sad days we live in folks. It's gonna get worse before it get better. And that bothers me. I'm expecting to be a Grandfather for the first time in October this year. What a horrible world he/she will be left to live in now, and after I'm gone.
 
Lets start by DRUG TESTING anyone on welfare or unemployment. And stop putting inmates on the history channel like movie stars. Felons live in more comfort than I do. Why do people think they get out of jail and go right back to crime...Jail is a social club where inmate rights come before rehabilitation. Billybob and Tyrone NEED to suffer in jail, take away their weights and basketball courts. If the sentence is 10 years, they do 10 years. If you kill someone you should be executed. Think about how much money is wasted on Charlie Manson every year. To many people crying about the rights of criminals, when the criminals could give a sh-t about anyone else but themselves.
 
Another good place to start is to get people to realize that they are not owed anything simply because they exist. You want respect, earn it. You want money and material things, earn them. Don't expect to have it just given to you when you aren't willing to put in any work to get it. And don't expect instant gratification of your wants and desires.
 
I know everyone makes mistakes in life. I know I have. But what is going on with people now days? Teens and adults are way out of control. Everyone wants to be noticed for some "over-the-top" act, just to get attention. And most times it's negative attention.

Why do we spend more money on fighting crime, then we do on building businesses and factories? Why are we building more restaurants and hotels, when most of us can't afford to enjoy these things? Why do we build more medical clinics, when we can't afford medical insurance to visit them when we're sick? You ever notice how nice the buildings are of an insurance company, medical office, or hospital? I guess we know who's making all the money?


You know...I think POLITICIANS should wear uniforms, you know, like NASCAR drivers, so we could identify their corporate sponsors.

I understand that there are many of these people who are not only addicts, but they're lazy. Maybe they haven't worked a day in their lives since dropping out, or graduating high school? They live attached to their cellphones, video games, their drug or alcohol of choice, and a bag of Doritos. I get that they may never attend college, or even attempt to. So what is left? Well, alot. They're are jobs out there. I see them in the paper everyday. It maybe a minimum wage job, but it's a start.

ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS NO MATCH FOR NATURAL STUPIDITY.

Problem is, these people are hooked on these drugs, and they can't break free from their daily routine of drugs, they don't want to work, they can't pass a drug screen, and they have more excuses for why they don't have a job, then money in their pockets to buy drugs or alcohol. But the worst problem we have...these people still have the idea that they are "entitled". They don't want to work at McDonalds for $8/hr. They feel like they should just get paid as much as anyone else doing their job. Even if that person has been there for 10 or 20 years, and earned their pay scale.

A Fool and his money can throw one heck of a party....

It's sad days we live in folks. It's gonna get worse before it get better. And that bothers me. I'm expecting to be a Grandfather for the first time in October this year. What a horrible world he/she will be left to live in now, and after I'm gone.
Congratulations! I hope this kid makes it.
 
"You know...I think POLITICIANS should wear uniforms, you know, like NASCAR drivers, so we could identify their corporate sponsors"
One of the funniest ideas ever on usacarry. I love the thought of politicians running around with labels from all the lobbyists that support them all over their clothes. Great idea!
 
ESD.... I can tell you haven't been involved in the school system in a while. Our kids are no longer taught human anatomy and personal hygiene in Health class, or even abstinence to prevent STDs. Today its how to put on a condom, oral sex, abortion, and free birth control. It makes me sick, our kids don't have a chance!
 
Billions spent on social services with no proven benefit whatsoever. Welfare state will run out of working people to produce/create the do nothing lifestyle. Remember what loser Obama who is a product of the free everything state said to JOE THE PLUMBER. Obama and his like have sucked of the T of America long enough I have something else they can suck.
 
Totally agree and if Ron Paul wins this yr. doubtfully but if he did that's more of what he wants to do. Including letting states run their own. Quit spending billions to fight the war on drugs that we will never win. The cartel wants the u.s war in drugs. And totally agree the boot camp detox camp thing would be perfect perfect perfect. Yes alot are criminals on drugs but some are sick it's a disease. I would think alot want to quit but can't for getting sick. Thanks for the input I enjoyed reading it. And VOTE RON PAUL if we want to continue a free America and continue to have American jobs. Seperate the hardend criminal from the j walker so to speak. Do a boot camp style jail correctional system. That boot camp idea would work awesome for the addicts.
 
If you get busted in Japan with/on drugs, it is an automatic 6 weeks in jail. You WILL be clean by the time you get out. They put you in a cell & let you come down. They make no effort to make it easy. As far as I know, they have not had any deaths from withdrawal. I imagine some WISHED they would die.
 
Lets start by DRUG TESTING anyone on welfare or unemployment. And stop putting inmates on the history channel like movie stars. Felons live in more comfort than I do. Why do people think they get out of jail and go right back to crime...Jail is a social club where inmate rights come before rehabilitation. Billybob and Tyrone NEED to suffer in jail, take away their weights and basketball courts. If the sentence is 10 years, they do 10 years. If you kill someone you should be executed. Think about how much money is wasted on Charlie Manson every year. To many people crying about the rights of criminals, when the criminals could give a sh-t about anyone else but themselves.

My thoughts exactly except one, unemployment is not a gift from the people/citizen taxpayer as it is portrated. It is part of the productivity of the employee. Think about all the benifits of working: paycheck, health insurance options, pension, 401 k matching funds, paid time off (vacation), sick time, Social Security Insurance co- pay, Medicare co-pay. Some or all, the employee may or not contribute to. Consider some employees do not get paid time off or sick time or the 40 1k's or health insurance options. These costs are all figured into each employees productivity. If not you have a piss poor business plan and will be broke and out of business not to mention have no income and be on welfare yourself or unemployment. My point is do not include unemployment in the drug testing requirement as unemployment is taxed, therfore it is earned income.
 
ESD.... I can tell you haven't been involved in the school system in a while. Our kids are no longer taught human anatomy and personal hygiene in Health class, or even abstinence to prevent STDs. Today its how to put on a condom, oral sex, abortion, and free birth control. It makes me sick, our kids don't have a chance!
Well! I'll pay for their birth control IF they pay for my ammo.:eek:
 
The unemployment thing was a stretch...however if you are sitting on your ass doing drugs and enjoying the constant extensions of unemployment, If a good job does come up how will you apply? OOOHHH please wait a month while detox from from my greatful dead vacation then I will apply for that job!? Two years...99 weeks of unemployment is a bit much. If there is no openings in your field in 2 years you better learn a new trade. As a mechanic I was able to pretty much walk in the door of any dealership and be hired on the spot, and still can today. If your field of work dried up...5 years of unemployment won't help. And doing drugs wont either. In NYS you must apply for work and be READY to work as part of qualifying for unemployment...That is where I came up with that statement.
 
What are my thoughts?

Deuteronomy 7:4 "For they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you."

A nation that turns itself away from Allmighty God should not be surprised if God turns Himself away from that nation.
 
i don't agree with drug testing at all being most americans are on some kind of drug and the legal ones are far most dangerous/
the cia is the biggest illegal dope dealer on the planet i say we arrest them from bringing it into the country in the first place and make a real attempt to get our citizens off the crap they brought in like heroin cocaine crack and their newest invention meth which the cia also introduced to americans city streets all that stuff is here because the government allows the cia to carry it here ..we went to nam so the cia could profit from opium as we are in afghanistan today making sure their opium fields are growing at full production for crown profiteering anyone who does that junk is an idiot imo
as far as pot is concerned imo it's none of the governments business if anyone smokes a joint now and then as studies show that stuff is not dangerous at all neither is unprocesses coca leaf and in fact a medicinal and healthy thing for some folks and if we had a smart president in office it would be legal and a number one crop here in the usa again as there are many uses for that plant and it could get our economy back in less than a year and provide all kinds of jobs for certain
however if some stupid idiot harmed another whilst high on whatever they should pay restitution as well have a mandatory detox and education program available rather than doing time in some barbaric prison where they get no help at all and wind up worst a character than they were in the first place
that bogus drug war needs to end as drugs are not the enemy stupid people are
 
there are very many ways to fix the welfare system without violating the 4th amendment. not to mention the ease with which people can beat a drug test. feel good solutions cause a great many problems in america today. lets be better than that.
 
People want to work not sit on thier ass. Drug testing will not solve the problem. Kicking the idiots we voted in out of office is a start. After that we can solve other issues.
 
ESD:307098 said:
I know everyone makes mistakes in life. I know I have. But what is going on with people now days? Teens and adults are way out of control. Everyone wants to be noticed for some "over-the-top" act, just to get attention. And most times it's negative attention.

Why do we spend more money on fighting crime, then we do on building businesses and factories? Why are we building more restaurants and hotels, when most of us can't afford to enjoy these things? Why do we build more medical clinics, when we can't afford medical insurance to visit them when we're sick? You ever notice how nice the buildings are of an insurance company, medical office, or hospital? I guess we know who's making all the money?

Why are we still fighting the war on drugs? It's the plague of our society. Has been for years. And what is the result? Drug offenders who go to prison to learn how to be better criminals. Why do we continue to build prisons, and not drug treatment facilities? These people are so strung out on drugs these days, that they are breaking into homes and businesses. Even with all the modern surveillance equipment available, and the rise in homeowners whom arm themselves; it hasn't detoured these people? Why? Because they're minds and bodies are ill. They don't need to go to jail, they need mental and medicinal treatment for their illnesses.

Is there a drug problem. Ofcourse there is. But no classes in school to address them in length. Health class in high school, isn't enough. Education needs to be more proactive. And it needs to start in elementary schools. Parents of drug abusing children need to suffer real consequences for their lacking in lifestyle choices in preparing their children for a drug-free life.

I know there are jobs out there for these people. Many of them have only one daily quest. Find the means for their next fix. Most can't pass a drug test, if they did find a job? So it seems it's either jail, welfare, or disability for these people. And that just sucks for us tax payers. Our elected politicians are so out of touch with society's underworld, because they are so far removed from it. Drug deals are done on the sly, and most have mastered their "jobs" as drug dealers. So why do we continue to dump millions into the war on drugs?

I've noticed over the past several years that there are bootcamp type jails for lessor criminals and juveniles. Why not build facilities to detox these addicts? Run them through a bootcamp type facility to build their minds and bodies, and then retrain them to work again in society through some vocational type facility. Make it a process, they won't ever want to repeat. Detox, bootcamp, vocational retraining. They would have to successfully pass one phase, before moving onto the next.

I understand that there are many of these people who are not only addicts, but they're lazy. Maybe they haven't worked a day in their lives since dropping out, or graduating high school? They live attached to their cellphones, video games, their drug or alcohol of choice, and a bag of Doritos. I get that they may never attend college, or even attempt to. So what is left? Well, alot. They're are jobs out there. I see them in the paper everyday. It maybe a minimum wage job, but it's a start.

Problem is, these people are hooked on these drugs, and they can't break free from their daily routine of drugs, they don't want to work, they can't pass a drug screen, and they have more excuses for why they don't have a job, then money in their pockets to buy drugs or alcohol. But the worst problem we have...these people still have the idea that they are "entitled". They don't want to work at McDonalds for $8/hr. They feel like they should just get paid as much as anyone else doing their job. Even if that person has been there for 10 or 20 years, and earned their pay scale.

It's not just the drugs that are bringing our society down. What is going on with adults having sex with kids? Teachers, coaches, police officers, doctors, politicians, the neighbor down the street, etc... What about all these online crooks stealing identities, financial information, etc....? And what is going one with our kids all dressing and acting like gang thugs? And why is it that all I ever see on television, is insurance company commercials anymore? If they are making so much money that they can run television ads; it's no wonder we have inflated insurance rates! There's just no moral middle ground anymore.

It's sad days we live in folks. It's gonna get worse before it get better. And that bothers me. I'm expecting to be a Grandfather for the first time in October this year. What a horrible world he/she will be left to live in now, and after I'm gone.

Not true. You are just getting older and out of touch. It will happen to all of us. It just seems over the top. No different than what your parents thought of your generation when you were young. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
 
............. Kicking the idiots we voted in out of office is a start. After that we can solve other issues.
But they keep getting back to their position after they were kicked out of office. While they were out there after being kicked out, they stir the populace so they can go back to their old position. Politics and politicians are just a game to them. Once they tasted what it's like to be in office and getting quirks for their "projects", they come back again and again. They should have a term limit -- one term limit and they should have a proper job so they stop rorting the system. Dang! When will the voting public learn?
 
What are my thoughts?

Deuteronomy 7:4 "For they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you."

A nation that turns itself away from Allmighty God should not be surprised if God turns Himself away from that nation.
Your thoughts are right on the mark Outlaw. My thoughts go directly to 2nd Timothy 3.."But mark this: "There will be terrible times in the Last Days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self control, brutal, not lovers of good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--having a form of godliness but denying it's power". Then there's the #1 stumbling block of both believers & unbelievers,Mark 13:30.."I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all of these things have happened". What amazes me is that with all of our advanced technology and vast increase of knowledge, ignorance & self-deceit are the hallmarks of "This Last Generation". 2nd Timothy 3:7.."Always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth".
 
ESD,

Congrats on becoming and grandfather! That is truly one of lifes greatest blessings as I can attest because have two grand daughters of my own and they are my greatest joys. I share your concerns for their future because I feel the same concerns myself and I'm not sure that there is a message of comfort anywhere that I can see as far as the future of this country goes.

Basically the morals and the underlying principles of God & Country & Family have been subverted through generations of progressive doctrine brought through the media and schools in order to change the social norm. God cannot be at the forefront because we may offend someone who doesn't believe in God. Country can't be at the forefront because we will seem like elitest to the rest of the world hense our President goes around bowing to every other leader of every other country. And family has got to go because nowadays it's just not necessary. It is old fashioned to think that a child raised by one father and one mother would actually be better off. Hell nowadays you don't want to offend a single mom or single dad or for sure you don't want to say outloud that a child coming out of a family with hetrosexual parents would be better of that a child coming from gay parents. You could be branded as being judgemental which is almost worse than being called a murderer.

What it boils down to is that the plain and simple truths which once governed rational thought in people and by people I mean the citizenry of the US have become unpopular and even demonized. Now a days we're a country governed by polititians who make decisions based first on what is good for them and second what is popular because that is also perceived as what is good for them thus no policy passed into law has anything to do with truthfully addressing any of the dire problems we now face. We're spending billions, no trillions to appear politically correct even though it's not solving anything. The Tea Party was the one ray of hope I saw and I took heart that there were still some sane people left in the country.

I don't see a good ending to this and pray for our grandchildren. The only way back is to start to recognize what is truth and abide by it. Teach it to the next generation and the one after that and get back what we've lost. But that just such an oldfashioned outdated idea.
 

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