weapon registration
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Throttleup
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What state are you in?
XD40scinNC
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The majority of states do NOT have a gun registration. In other states it is a crime to have an unregistered gun.
The states don't have gun registration, but anything brought in on consignment or pawn usually ends up having the item (gun or otherwise) serial number and the consigner's identity recorded. In many cases this is either transmitted to the police or has to remain available to the police. The states I'm familiar with do not require the purchaser's information.
If you tell us what state you are concerned with, I can look it up.
If you tell us what state you are concerned with, I can look it up.
Waffles
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If you purchased any hand gun made after 1898 from any commercial store, you have to complete the federal Firearms Form (don't remember what it called). A copy is kept in the store, a copy is sent to your state police and the third is sent to ATF. I don't remember when they started using this form but if you purchased the hand gun in the last 10-15 yrs, the form had to be completed. Private sales do not need the form completed (depending on your state). The occupied Socialist States of NY,Calif, Conn an such have their down set of rules and regulations that make it near impossible to own hand guns and do demand registration :nono:.
Here is the link to the law.
https://books.google.com/books?id=P...e completed when purchasing a handgun&f=false
Here is the link to the law.
https://books.google.com/books?id=P...e completed when purchasing a handgun&f=false
Axeanda45
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As far as I know, a copy the 4473 form does NOT get sent to anyone.....it ONLY resides at the FFL (firearm dealer/seller) place of business.... I havent a clue where mr waffles came up with his information...
BTW... there are no "copies" of the 4473... it is a single piece of paper... it is NOT a multipage form.... If waffles was correct, the form itself would have mutliple pages where you have to press hard to make sure all of them got properly marked....
BTW... there are no "copies" of the 4473... it is a single piece of paper... it is NOT a multipage form.... If waffles was correct, the form itself would have mutliple pages where you have to press hard to make sure all of them got properly marked....
bofh
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For reference, the ATF Form 4473 has one and a half double-sided pages that need to be filled out and a total of three double-sided pages. Different states may have different ADDITIONAL procedures. The ATF does not not get a copy, instead the FFL has to keep it:
bofh
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Why do you think your weapon can, is or should be registered?
Deanimator
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- That's a purely state and or local matter. Nobody can answer the question without knowing where you are.
- I guarantee you didn't in Ohio, since, unless it comes under the NFA (machine gun, AOW, etc.) there's not WAY to "register" a gun here.
Hello Grouchpa, did the pawn shop do a background check (4473) on you when they sold you a working firearm? No to mention the fact that you were from out of state when you purchased it in Texas and you live in Kentucky. Now you know why we get a bad rap in the media etc, it's because of situations like these that hurt the gun industry.
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FNWylde
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Weapon:
noun1.any instrument or device for use in attack or defense in combat,fighting, or war, as a sword, rifle, or cannon.
noun1.any instrument or device for use in attack or defense in combat,fighting, or war, as a sword, rifle, or cannon.
XD40scinNC
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Exactly my understanding also. The FFL store is required to keep it on file and if requested allow the ATF to review them. If the store goes out of business, then, and only then are the forms are sent to the ATF, but some of them may be 20 - 30+ years old at that time (unsure when 4473's were first used).
But it does NOT go to the ATF, or local law enforcement automatically.
As far as the pawn shop obtaining the gun, some states and municipalities require pawn shops to report stuff they buy (not just guns) to local law enforcement who tries to match those items to stolen property reports. And occasionally you hear about an arrest where pawned items were matched to a crime and the perp.
Also there are multiple pages, but it is not a multi-part form, meaning no copies of any page.
Axeanda45
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STOP ASSUMING that he lived in KY when he bought it in TX...... He NEVER said such.... and you are making a big fool of yourself.... Now, IF you had any actual evidence of that actually being the case (instead of you misreading what he said) then your words may have some relevance EXCEPT FOR THE IDIOTIC BULLCRAP ABOUT "WE" GETTING A BAD RAP....... Your actions have zero, nada, zip to do with me or 'us" as a group....... the same the other way around.... If your mom caught you reading porn in her basement, does that mean all fat teenage boys with a bad case of zits and no self-esteem are now guilty of reading porn when YOU happen to be the only one that actually did it?
Axeandra45 maybe if you started from the beginning you would have seen #5 in which the writer of this thread said that he did. So I hope you're not the ******* idiot you're sounding like in the post you wrote blasting me. Next time buy your firearm though a real store next time instead of a shady pawnshop.
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bofh
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According to Weapon | Definition of weapon by Merriam-Webster:
Firearms are usually considered deadly weapons by law, no prior or ongoing criminal act required.
Bofh, look at your definition 1. Something USED TO INJURE that sounds like past tense. Instead of looking up Webster why don't you look up the NRA and see how they want you to refer to a Gun and/or Firearm. Maybe if you were a gun guy you would have checked with The NRA and not Websters.
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bofh
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Did you read posts #1 and #5? The OP never stated that the weapon is a handgun. See the ATF rules on legally buying a rifle or shotgun out of state.
I am not sure what you mean with shady pawn shops. Pawn shops that sell firearms must have a FFL and must follow the same rules other gun stores do. They do get inspected by the ATF the same way other gun stores do.
Without knowing the intentions of the OP for asking the question in the first place, there won't be a good answer to it anyway. Firearms laws are complex and contain a number of pitfalls that make otherwise law-abiding citizens accidental felons. I recommend that the OP should read up on the actual federal and state firearms laws that are involved, instead of listening to folks on Internet gun forums. Those firearms laws are all publicly available and can be easily found using a search engine. A lot of FAQs are even answered by the ATF: BAFTE | Questions and Answers and BAFTE | Unlicensed Persons.
Note that the OP just joined this forum on the day of post #1 and posts #1 and #5 are his/her only posts. Something to consider when responding to such posts.
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