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[S&WM&P40]

Went shooting today with some friends and our friends SKS had a Slam Fire, bolt was taking the round into the barrel and the tip went into the barrel and then the round went off with the bolt half open. Friend got some powder burns on his hand, ripped the casing apart and jammed the gun. Looking at the case after the fact, the primer on the case was still intact and unstuck. Cleared the firearm and checked it over to make sure it was safe to fire, he fired it again and it jammed good. We had to kick the bolt back with our heel and forcefully smack the mag out. Checked it over and found the barrel had split in it down the center almost in half. Had it not jammed and he fired it again I have no doubt the firearm would have blown up like in a cartoon. Looking back he is lucky to walk away with powered burns on his hand, and not dead or missing his hand. Link RemovedLink RemovedLink RemovedLink Removed

 

[VT Patriot]

Why did you try such a foolish stunt as reloading (or trying to) after a slam fire. That should have been the end of the day. Take that gun apart and determine the cause of the slam firing before proceeding. You friend and your are very luck you're here to write this.

 

[2nd Amen]

… Cleared the firearm and checked it over to make sure it was safe to fire, he fired it again and it jammed good. We had to kick the bolt back with our heel and forcefully smack the mag out. Checked it over and found the barrel had split in it down the center almost in half. Had it not jammed and he fired it again I have no doubt the firearm would have blown up like in a cartoon…

How the heck did you "check it over" and completely MISS a split barrel? Did you guys call "Miller time" a few hours early? :blink:

 

[RossA]

So has anyone determined the cause of the original slam fire?

 

[S&WM&P40]

Why did you try such a foolish stunt as reloading (or trying to) after a slam fire. That should have been the end of the day. Take that gun apart and determine the cause of the slam firing before proceeding. You friend and your are very luck you're here to write this.

I didn't he did, if you know anything about the SKS platform you would know they are know for Slam fires. A simple google search will pull up pages upon pages of the same thing happening, as will Youtube. In most of the cases the firing pin becomes stuck out and when loading the round it touches off the primer. In this case the primer was still intact and wasn't stuck at all, only mark on the case was on the right hand side about 2-3 inches from the primer. The firearm was taken apart and looked over, no know cause was found, this happened after about 100+ rounds without a problem.

 

[S&WM&P40]

How the heck did you "check it over" and completely MISS a split barrel? Did you guys call "Miller time" a few hours early? :blink:

Not sure about your shooting practices, but alcohol is never mixed when we go shooting, huge safety violation. The barrel wasn't split when they checked it over, it was a weak spot in the barrel after years of use and storage. It was a surplus Yugoslavian SKS, imported in as parts and reassembled. Gunsmith said it was a ticking time bomb and short of x-raying the barrel it could not have been prevented.

 

[S&WM&P40]

So has anyone determined the cause of the original slam fire?

Not yet, gunsmith is stumped on it. The back of the primer was not struck, only has one mark on the base of the case to the right of the primer.

 

[dogshawred]

Went shooting today with some friends and our friends SKS had a Slam Fire, bolt was taking the round into the barrel and the tip went into the barrel and then the round went off with the bolt half open. Friend got some powder burns on his hand, ripped the casing apart and jammed the gun. Looking at the case after the fact, the primer on the case was still intact and unstuck. Cleared the firearm and checked it over to make sure it was safe to fire, he fired it again and it jammed good. We had to kick the bolt back with our heel and forcefully smack the mag out. Checked it over and found the barrel had split in it down the center almost in half. Had it not jammed and he fired it again I have no doubt the firearm would have blown up like in a cartoon. Looking back he is lucky to walk away with powered burns on his hand, and not dead or missing his hand.

Understanding that a slam fire is in fact the act of the firing pin striking the primer inappropriately, what you have described is not a slam fire and should have created enough suspicion on your part to have the weapon checked out by a qualified gunsmith before any attempt to reuse the weapon.
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Obviously not checking the weapon thoroughly enough, not finding why it actually misfired the weapon was used and failed to fire luckily. The weapons action was then forced open and the magazine was forced out of the receiver. Then you found a split barrel which from the photo seemed sever. My question is: If you hadn't found the split would you have used the weapon again, if so at what point would you stop using a weapon that malfunctions? This is a question you need to ask yourself before you harm yourself or someone else severely.

 

[Ozarker]

My first military surplus was a SKS. However I searched the internet to learn about the weapon. This is some years ago. I bought a kit to replace the firing pin so it wouldn't slam fire. Did this before I ever shot it... Have since sold the weapon. Point is I didn't want to be worry about it slam firing. Glad no one was hurt to bad.

 

[Stengun]

Howdy,

I've been shooting SKSs for about 39 years and have never had a "slam fire".

You said the gun was assembled out of parts.


DINGDINGDINGDINGDING!!!!!

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!!!

Sounds like someone did a pisspoor job building the SKS.

On top of that there were several people shooting it that needed adult supervision.

Paul

 

[Ghost Rider]

Slam fires happen because most people that own an SKS don`t know how to properly disassemble the bolt for cleaning. The pin that hold the firing pin in place needs to be knocked out and the firing pin removed, the firing pin and the channel it rides in need to be cleaned. If this is not done its just a matter of time before the firing pin jams in the bolt from being dirty and causes a slam fire.

 

[Warbirds]

How old was the ammo? Those that actually read what you wrote are probably trying to wrap their head around what could cause the powder to ignite if the primer was still untouched.

Everyone else can go back to discussing alcohol, parts kits and magical slam fires that don't touch the primer.

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[ventman]

Ding Ding Ding!

To me it sounds like sks's are crappy weapons.

 

[S&W645]

Here's something not made clear. Was the barrel checked to made sure there was no bullet in the barrel? The slam fire round may not have had enough force to eject the bullet from the barrel. Second round exploded the barrel while clearing the first?

A hot barrel possibly cooking off a round Warbirds?