Video of US government taking guns away from Citizens


Exactly why many states have passed, or are in the process of passing, laws preventing this from happening again. It's also an example that "It can't happen here" isn't necessarily the truth.
 

p8re8

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times like those are when legally licsenced law abiding citizens need their weapons the most. in the end the national guardsman who said he would hate to shoot an american is scary stuff. not to lessen the effect of the hurricane but that was a little rain, what if a nation wide catastrophic event happened? another great depression, the complete loss of the power grid, what then?
 

HK4U

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scary

times like those are when legally licsenced law abiding citizens need their weapons the most. in the end the national guardsman who said he would hate to shoot an american is scary stuff. not to lessen the effect of the hurricane but that was a little rain, what if a nation wide catastrophic event happened? another great depression, the complete loss of the power grid, what then?


In the April issue of SWAT magazine under ENEMY AT THE GATE is and article entitled "Just following orders". It is something we all need to think about. Especially those tha are LEO's or military. When and if guns are outlawed and the order to shot anyone that does not turn them in is given what will you do. I recomend reading the article.
 

toreskha

Titles are un-American.
I realize that I'm a little behind the curve on this specific issue with respect to post-Katrina LEO/NG actions as I haven't really kept up with it. However, what specific legal actions are currently underway to address this? That was a rights-stomping that shouldn't go unanswered or unpunished.

If nothing else, something as simple as bombarding the relevant offices with requests demanding an explanation. These people need to be put in their place.
 

sailor

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toreskha (and others) - The book: "The Great New Orleans Gun Grab" (I think I got that right - my copy is circulating in city administration, and city police dept.) gives a pretty good description of what happened, who did it, what NRA and others are attempting to litigate now. The only direct source that I am aware of currently. I have also asked my local library to have one or more copies on the shelf. A classic example of city administration and police dept. gone to anarchy - and yes, it could happen to you! All the new laws don't mean diddly when the civil law is not enforced. It may give you redress for grievences, after the fact, if you survive - if you survive! Read the last line of the book above- shouts long and loud just how "law abiding" the New Orleans police dept. is. :akuma:
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Cooter

Liberty or Death
Those videos were sickening. I could barely finish them. I hope to god that never happens in my town. Knowing some of the people around here, I can't help but think what would happen if they tried to take our guns away.
 

daddyo

M. Todd Bayliss
Sort of makes me wonder about the New Orleans cops who left town. I'm sure some were just taking care of their own backside and screw everyone else, but I wonder if perhaps some knew this was coming and didn't want to be a part of it.

Also, I have a feeling the next time somebody tries this the people won't be nearly as cooperative.
 
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toreskha

Titles are un-American.
Also, I have a feeling the next time somebody tries this the people won't be nearly as cooperative.
That's what people have always said the the time after something bad happens, and the time before it happens again.
 

Memphis

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What do you do when cops have an AR or 12g pointed at you? You really have no choice but to cooperate no matter how bad ass you are. The poor little old lady that had her face beaten in deserves to watch her attackers go to jail. Some LEO just can not handle authority and they should be punished just like any other BG when they're caught.

To bad we can't filter these idiots out before they're given badges. Things like this remind us that we have to hide from EVERYONE if we end up in this situation. You can only trust yourself to look out for you.
 

toreskha

Titles are un-American.
What do you do when cops have an AR or 12g pointed at you? You really have no choice but to cooperate no matter how bad ass you are.
As a very last resort, you can chain yourself to something in your house, or just lie down and go limp like Jello. It'll take at least two of them to carry you for any significant distance, and they're probably not very interested in putting up with that sort of crap, especially if you have some friends/family who are doing the same. It sounds kind of like something a liberal tree-hugger would do, but it is effective. Passive resistance (probably) doesn't give them a reason to do anything violent, like shoot you.

Another interesting tactic might be to just not say anything - no speech, hand gestures, or writing. Just give them a blank stare. They're probably used to people arguing with them - but when people don't speak to them, or react when spoken to, it doesn't give them an opportunity to use any kind of confrontation to their advantage. What are they going to do when you do literally nothing and just lie on the ground?

Anyway, that's just my thinking...20 soldiers with guns and tear gas can probably beat up and arrest 100 lightly armed people, but they're going to have a hell of a time dealing with 30 zoned-out people who won't move.
 

oidsailor

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they were upsetting to watch but like Memphis said what are you going to do. as far as the LEO they should get twice what a BG should get because they are trusted agents and if they purposefully abuse that power their punishment should be harsh.
 

Hoplites1234

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Further re-enforcing my belief that cops are just bullies with badges. I've NEVER had one help me when I needed it. They consider everyone a criminal unless they're part of the thin blue line. Just ask that black dude that got shot to death by the cops in NYC during his batchelor party.
 

Scarecrow

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they were upsetting to watch but like Memphis said what are you going to do. as far as the LEO they should get twice what a BG should get because they are trusted agents and if they purposefully abuse that power their punishment should be harsh.

I agree. they should be smart enough to not let that power go to their heads. and beating that old poor lady... couple of tough guys they were.
 

stumpjumper101

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I have about 20 close friends in law enforcement in the area in which i live and every one of them have told me that when the day comes they are asked to conficate weapons from law abiding citizens. THE BADGE COMES OFF!!! they find it totally wrong and are not gonna risk their behinds to do something they know is morally wrong. with the mentality of these guys around here i think i would be one astronomical risk to try and take guns from anyone. Most of them are doing the same as the rest of us stockpiling ammo, nonperishable foods, bug out bags, and even building multiple long range rifles for when tshtf. notice i didnt say if but when!!! Seems that everything is in a downward spiral right now. economy sinking, gas prices rising, price of everything on the rise but our paychecks, people getting more desperate by the day. robbery seems to be more common. 5 years ago in my home town of gloucester VA. it was unheard of to have a bank or even a store robbed at gunpiont, in the last 18 months i cant count on all my fingers and toes the amount of robberies that have taken place. Theve all been desperate and poorly planned robberies at that most were caught before they could get a couple of miles up the road, but with that it still continues to go on here.
 
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SigFan229R

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Exactly why many states have passed, or are in the process of passing, laws preventing this from happening again. It's also an example that "It can't happen here" isn't necessarily the truth.

That's the liberal mind talking, in the real world the laws, in this type of situation, don't mean squat. Look at how well they can enforce the other laws on the books. Now throw in any sort of disaster and throw all your rights out the window.

What a bunch of pussies those guys were. Where they should have been is the high crime areas, going thru all those house grabbing the guns and drugs, etc... from the criminals not playing tough guy on 80 year old women!!!!
 

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