Vertical Fore Grip Yes/No

Kramer1113

Kramer1113

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I hate Junking up a weapon.
I thought I would leave My Colt LE6920 stock, But, Recently I changed the pistol grip and the fore grip and mounted a light and pressure switch kit.
Does anyone have any convincing thoughts on Vertical Fore Grips? Good, Bad, Neither?
 
I chose the folding vertical fore grip for mine, in the folded position it makes it very easy and comfortable for me to aim and hold. I'll fold it down when using the slide fire in sim. auto mode. Much easier for me to work the slide and control and of course I like the way it looks.
 
The reason i put foregrips, or any kind of rail stop, on my long guns is so my reaction hand lands on the exact same spot every time, allowing my thumb or fingers access to my light or accessory. I do not use the foregrip to control the muzzle, as it puts the bore axis higher increasing recoil.

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What pistol grip did you get ?. I just replaced my pistol grip with a K2 pistol grip, it was a nice improvement by it self. I also replaced the M4 fore grip with a set of Car15 fore grips. I have used a vertical for grip in the past, but not anymore, I prefer the simple clean look of the rifle.
 
Howdy,

Like lights, lasers, etc. I'm not a fan of VFGs.

I'm Ol' School and used M-16/CAR-16s, MP-5s, etc. plain and simple. Heck, we didn't have any type of optics etc the simple Colt 3X scope that attached to the top of the carry handle.

Back in the "Day" I always preferred the CAR-16 Commando ( mine had the 14 1/2" barrel ) because it was lightweight and nowadays everyone wants to weigh them down with, as my wife calls it, bling.

Paul
 
I'm not a fan of forward grips either. All I have on my 6920 is a shortened picatinny rail on bottom of the stock forearm grip, which holds my light and bipod very nicely. Leave the flashlight on permanently, with both my red dot or Nikon BDC600 3-12X 42mm scope.

There is no fouling my support hand as the rail is as far forward as it could be mounted. Piccy below, with a mildot scope I took off another longarm.

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I think it depends on the gun's primary purpose. I don't see the benefit of a vertical fore-grip for anything but hth or close quarters combat.

IMHO; Where you run the risk of getting in a struggle or, having to use you gun as a baton or jabbing weapon is the place a vertical fore-grip really does have some great benefit. (I have proven this to be true over & over in hth & weapon retention training.)

So, home defense =YES
Hunting, shooting = No


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I can take 'em or leave 'em...

As you can see, I don't really use 'em when I got 'em... I was so informed that to assist in the "Tacticool" image, I put my high-speed vest on, heh. Hmm, maybe I should have put my leathers on...?

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r1derbike said:
I'm not a fan of forward grips either. All I have on my 6920 is a shortened picatinny rail on bottom of the stock forearm grip, which holds my light and bipod very nicely. Leave the flashlight on permanently, with both my red dot or Nikon BDC600 3-12X 42mm scope.

There is no fouling my support hand as the rail is as far forward as it could be mounted. Piccy below, with a mildot scope I took off another longarm.

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Cute gun... :biggrin:
 
Capt. Frank said:
Check federal laws, on some guns they are not legal!
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Firefighterchen said:
Which guns? I'm curious to see an example.
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Adding a Vertical Fore Grip to a handgun (or AR pistol) is not necessarily illegal. It just makes the gun a short-barreled rifle (more precisely an unregistered “any other weapon” (AOW)), thus requiring the correct NFA paperwork. See: https://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2006/04/041006-openletter-nfa-adding-vertical-fore-grip.html

Now, adding an Angled Fore Grip to a handgun (or AR pistol) does not have the same legal consequences, i.e., it can be legally performed without the need to register the firearm with the ATF. See Question #7: Link Removed
 
bofh said:
Adding a Vertical Fore Grip to a handgun (or AR pistol) is not necessarily illegal. It just makes the gun a short-barreled rifle (more precisely an unregistered “any other weapon” (AOW)), thus requiring the correct NFA paperwork. See: https://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2006/04/041006-openletter-nfa-adding-vertical-fore-grip.html

Now, adding an Angled Fore Grip to a handgun (or AR pistol) does not have the same legal consequences, i.e., it can be legally performed without the need to register the firearm with the ATF. See Question #7: Link Removed
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I thought we were talking about long guns. I suppose this is the general firearms sub forum though.

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Firefighterchen said:
I thought we were talking about long guns. I suppose this is the general firearms sub forum though.
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I just tried to clarify things before this thread goes completely off-topic. I actually would like to hear more opinions on attaching a VFG or AFG on a rifle in terms of practical or tacticool.
 
gunnerbob said:
As you can see, I don't really use 'em when I got 'em... I was so informed that to assist in the "Tacticool" image, I put my high-speed vest on, heh. Hmm, maybe I should have put my leathers on...?
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Please don't kill your leathers! The are really tough to eat.
 
gunnerbob said:
Cute gun... :biggrin:
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Yeah, my wife had me dress-up the poor tree with some bling. She sent a piccy of just the tree to a local TV station, and won a coffee mug in their "mugshot" contest. I do all the work and get none of the credit. Story of my life... ;-]

The tree reminded me of an ignorant/misinformed gun control fool, hence the Kodak moment.
 
I find a fore grip unwieldy and uncomfortable. I seem to have more control without one. However, I do like the look. That being said, I am an old lady and as they say "you can't teach an old dog new tricks".
 
Firefighterchen said:
The reason i put foregrips, or any kind of rail stop, on my long guns is so my reaction hand lands on the exact same spot every time, allowing my thumb or fingers access to my light or accessory. I do not use the foregrip to control the muzzle, as it puts the bore axis higher increasing recoil.

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What Firefighterchen said is something that I've been taught in the last few years and it makes sense. If you put your support hand on a vertical for grip all of the weight and recoil is happening above your point of control. If you use a more ergonomic grip such as one demonstrated by gunnerbob in his photos, you'll be able to control the muzzle more effectively. Just make sure that you are not using your support/working hand to pull the gun into your shoulder, your gun hand should be doing that. Your support hand should be there to guide the sights to the target. Personally I would either go with an angled fore grip or just a slick gun. I wouldn't put a vertical grip on mine.

I also wanted to add that the grip of the support hand on the rifle is the same fundamental grip of the support hand on a pistol. Nothing changes about the principles for either weapon.

Grip high up as possible without interfering with the working parts of the gun, get good contact with the weapon, etc.
 
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