USMC going back to 1911

mmckee1952

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Just heard on Fox News that the marine Corp has put in an order to colt for 22.5 Millon to purchase the ol 1911 45 cal pistol, took them long enough to get rid of the 9mm they've been using, it's got a light rail on the bottom and it looks great.
 
I think going to the M9 was one of the dumbest (among a million other "bright" ideas) the military ever did! Now they're going to waste millions more in taxpayer funds to get back to the .45!!!
 
I can understand the .45 acp part, but have second thoughts about the old S.A.Colt. If its for military, a Glock just seems to make more sense to me.... 13+1 rounds, Ultra reliable, and cheaper...not to mention easier to maintain.

There's no way a Colt will pass the mud & grit test that a Glock does....dip them in mud, rack a round, and they'll still go bang until the magazine is empty. Try that with a Colt 1911.

Ya, ya, I know "but, its a COLT!"
 
One would hope that the US is finally seeing the folly of sending millions of dollars to overseas manufacturers for products that could be made here with a bigger benefit to our economy.

Colt = home grown, Glock = overseas, Beretta = overseas and the list goes on.

I'd rather see the US spend $$ here and pressure US manufacturers to build a weapon comparable to what the rest of the world thinks is the better weapon instead of the dumbass decisions it made to go to foreign suppliers.
 
Almost_Blameless said:
I can understand the .45 acp part, but have second thoughts about the old S.A.Colt. If its for military, a Glock just seems to make more sense to me.... 13+1 rounds, Ultra reliable, and cheaper...not to mention easier to maintain.

There's no way a Colt will pass the mud & grit test that a Glock does....dip them in mud, rack a round, and they'll still go bang until the magazine is empty. Try that with a Colt 1911.

Ya, ya, I know "but, its a COLT!"
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The 1911 Pistol passed your little test over 100 years ago before it was selected for the armed services. Glock is a teenager trying to take a tough wise old man down. Try putting a Glock in water to cool it down and have it function 60000 rounds in two days. Plastic melts and deforms.

M1911 pistol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Seeya said:
The 1911 Pistol passed your little test over 100 years ago before it was selected for the armed services. Glock is a teenager trying to take a tough wise old man down. Try putting a Glock in water to cool it down and have it function 60000 rounds in two days. Plastic melts and deforms.

M1911 pistol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Yep. Many a 1911 has been dropped in muddy conditions and still functioned. If you shake one and it rattles, it will pass the mud test without problems. It is when people try to tighten them up is when they get finicky.
 
The Marines: Looking for a few good men and a few good guns. The Navy never really liked the M9 and neither did the Marines when it came down to to up close work for the SEALs or the SOGs. Both kept 1911s in use and the Navy also bought the Sigs, which had lost to the Beretta M9.
 
S&W645 said:
The Marines: Looking for a few good men and a few good guns. The Navy never really liked the M9 and neither did the Marines when it came down to to up close work for the SEALs or the SOGs. Both kept 1911s in use and the Navy also bought the Sigs, which had lost to the Beretta M9.
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The ONLY reason the Sig lost to Beretta was cost alone. Both passed the performance test just fine.

Shame too! It's the only time in my 20 that I saw the Gov't opt for something cheaper when something more expensive was available.

Oh wait. This was really to do with creature comfort in a sense wasn't it! And since it wasn't about the Air Force, they decided not to spend the extra money. :);)

KK
 
I don't think that the Marines, or the Army for that matter, would have chosen the Beretta as second, third, or fourth choice. The trials were totally and completely rigged in favor of the M92. Many companies didn't even bother because they knew, if I'm not mistaken, no American company had an entrant in the actual testing, has been many years since I read the story. Never found out why, guess some congressmen got kickbacks from the purchase or something similar.

My choice at the time would have been the time-tested Browning Hi-Power, but it obviously wasn't exciting enough....why would we want the same sidearm that GB used? And the design was nearly as old as the M-1911

That is, until a couple of years after the change, and I first had a Sig P-226 in my hands......
 
Keykutter said:
The ONLY reason the Sig lost to Beretta was cost alone. Both passed the performance test just fine.

Shame too! It's the only time in my 20 that I saw the Gov't opt for something cheaper when something more expensive was available.

Oh wait. This was really to do with creature comfort in a sense wasn't it! And since it wasn't about the Air Force, they decided not to spend the extra money. :);)
KK
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Hey hey hey...

Wait, you're tight ;)
 
S&W645 said:
Yep. Many a 1911 has been dropped in muddy conditions and still functioned. If you shake one and it rattles, it will pass the mud test without problems. It is when people try to tighten them up is when they get finicky.
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Been there - done that! Republic of Vietnam, 1970
 
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