try rapidfire with a suppressed AR 223 sometime

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u will see that it's every bit as 'tame" to use as is the .22lr conversion unit without the 'can". So you can get viable practice, on steel disks, to 75m or so, for 3-10x less money per shot. So you can practice a lot more, with the savings in ammo cost,quickly amortizing the cost of the suppressor and the .22 unit. I only have experience with the Ciener .22 unit, sorry, but I've owned 6 over the years, and seen many more in the hands of friends and acquaintances.

. Any decent machine shop will make a fine "can" for $200 or less, and the AR comes already threaded The commerical ones, for $700, still also require that you spend $200 for a tax stamp. You'd have to do a certain amount of the work, but commercial can makers knock one out in about one hour of production time. To save $500, you won't do 5 hours worth of work?

 

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u will see that it's every bit as 'tame" to use as is the .22lr conversion unit without the 'can". So you can get viable practice, on steel disks, to 75m or so, for 3-10x less money per shot. So you can practice a lot more, with the savings in ammo cost,quickly amortizing the cost of the suppressor and the .22 unit. I only have experience with the Ciener .22 unit, sorry, but I've owned 6 over the years, and seen many more in the hands of friends and acquaintances.

. Any decent machine shop will make a fine "can" for $200 or less, and the AR comes already threaded The commerical ones, for $700, still also require that you spend $200 for a tax stamp. You'd have to do a certain amount of the work, but commercial can makers knock one out in about one hour of production time. To save $500, you won't do 5 hours worth of work?

First Ciener sucks. These days the CMMG stainless kit is the best you can get. Also spend a extra few bucks make a dedicated 22lr upper with a proper 22lr barrel and you can klink steel at 100 200 and even 400 yards. AR's do not all come threaded.

Last suppresses there is a reason an AWC Spectre 2 is about 400 bucks it works. You can get a form 1 and make you're own 22 suppressor for 26 bucks all parts needed bought form a local auto parts store I have seen it done with less then a hour work of labor. However the end result will be a 26 dollar suppressor. The AWC Spectre 2 is the boet 22 suppressor out for a reason performance solid reliable and of course the quietest fee free to read the countless reviews that say so.

 

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you don't want a dedicated .22lr upper, cause you can't CARRY both it and the 223 AR, and your BOB, but you CAN carry the .22 unit and have the option of either caliber in 20 seconds. You dont want a .22 ONLY can, because you want to be able to suppress the 223, and such cans are $700+ I am not talking about some steel wool stuffed in a tube and hose clamped onto the gun. That's not $200 worth of machining and welding, and 1/2 day or more of your work.

you are not talking about a "few" extra bucks. doing it your way means about $1000 extra bucks. and you'll have LESS utility into the bargain. So why do that? Yes, Jon Ciener is a bit of a ****, but his .22 units DO work, and the price is right.

 

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you don't want a dedicated .22lr upper, cause you can't CARRY both it and the 223 AR, and your BOB, but you CAN carry the .22 unit and have the option of either caliber in 20 seconds. You dont want a .22 ONLY can, because you want to be able to suppress the 223, and such cans are $700+ I am not talking about some steel wool stuffed in a tube and hose clamped onto the gun. That's not $200 worth of machining and welding, and 1/2 day or more of your work.

you are not talking about a "few" extra bucks. doing it your way means about $1000 extra bucks. and you'll have LESS utility into the bargain. So why do that? Yes, Jon Ciener is a bit of a ****, but his .22 units DO work, and the price is right.

Well my dedicated 22 upper weighs 3.4 pounds with a e0-tech and suppressor attached. Not really any effort to park it int he truck or carry it in a pack. Next You can build a very good dedicated upper for less then 400 I know cause mine was less the 400. Then add iron sights or a optic and suppressor of your choice. Next shooting 22lr out of a 5.56 barrel and use of a suppressor is a gamble and has caused many a baffle strike. Plus 5.56 barrel are threaded .600 and 22 suppressors need to be .400 so you will burn the blast baffle out.

Ciener kits are crap. Can they work sure after you spend 20 hours adjusting this and that. Maybe? A new out of the box CMMG stainless kit will run better and longer without any problems. I have owned pretty much every kit made and the CMMG is bounds above the rest.

Last NEVER shoot 22lr out of a 5.56 can as they are not serviceable and 22lr lead the hell out of a can and ruin it. Thus the use of a center fire can and a rimfire can.

Not sure what old book you are getting this information from but it is wicked outdated.