Trump to Allow Gun Collectors to Purchase Military Surplus M1911 Pistols

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Trump to Allow Gun Collectors to Purchase Military Surplus M1911 Pistols
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Included in the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act, which President Donald Trump intends to sign soon, is a provision that will allow the military to save an estimated $200,000 per year by selling surplus M1911 pistols to those in the public interested in purchasing them.
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Used widely during World War I, World War II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War, these historic firearms have been officially out of service since 1985, when the military replaced them with Beretta 92 pistols.
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Since then, the military has been forced to store leftover M1911 pistols at a price of $2 per year. The International Business Times reported that the military currently possesses roughly 100,000 of these pistols, bringing the price for storage to about $200,000 every single year.
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By allowing the military to sell these firearms to the public, Trump will therefore kill two stones with one bird: He’ll save the Pentagon money while also putting a smile on the faces of many gun collectors.
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According to Task & Purpose, there’s a lot of history intertwined with the M1911 pistol: “For more than a hundred years, (it) has traveled with American troops into almost every crisis, hot spot, and war the United States has participated in.”
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Militarily speaking, though, it’s not much use anymore for our men and women in uniform due to its very antiquated design.
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“The new generation of polymer guns such as the Glock are also much easier to disassemble and incorporate new features such as striker-fired operating systems, trigger safeties, loaded chamber indicators and larger magazines capacities,” Task & Purpose notes.
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Dovetailing back to the 2018 NDAA, which includes an amendment authorizing the government-funded Civilian Marksmanship Program to sell these pistols, it’s actually Congress that deserves most of the credit for both crafting it and then later passing it in mid-November.
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And though it pains me to admit this, former President Barack Obama deserves an iota of credit as well.
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The NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action explained that the 2016 National Defense Authorization Act passed by Obama two years ago “authorized the Secretary of Defense to transfer 1911s no longer in service to the CMP for public sale.”
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Here’s the catch: “That language made the transfers subject to the Secretary’s discretion and capped them at 10,000 per year. Unsurprisingly, no actual transfers were made under the program while Obama remained in the White House.”
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Of course.
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However, the NDAA slated to be signed by Trump would make these transfers mandatory and also remove the unnecessary cap.
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What remains unclear is when the sales will begin and how exactly the M1911s will be sold:
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What’s known, though, is that the CMP’s eligibility requirements are pretty strict, so in case you’re interested in securing an M1911 pistol, I’d start getting my paperwork ready now.
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Read More: https://conservativetribune.com/pur...ffjoe&utm_content=2017-11-27&utm_campaign=can
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My Thoughts: Sounds great, although if you shake them, I’ll bet they’ll sound like a castanet.
 
If you shake it and it doesn't rattle, be worried. The best running 1911s will be loose but not sloppy.

And that story is wrong about one thing. There still is a cap written into it. The Minimum for 2018 is 8,000. The Maximums for 2018 and 2019 is 10,000 for each year. The story is also misguided in the number of weapons in storage. That number is just an estimate for 1911s at Anniston Army Depot. That does not account for the ones stored at a Navy or Marine Corps location. Who knows how many are stored at Crane NWC currently? Anniston will serve as the transfer site for those too if the Navy gets rid of theirs.

And there are requirements to buy from the CMP but most here can meet them with about an outlay of $25 a year. If you can pass a NICS check, are a US citizen, and have some kind of firearms training or shooting documentation then the only other one that would be a hangup is being a member of a group that is affiliated with the CMP. That is where the $25 comes in. That is the cost to joining the Garand Collectors Association but if you are a member of a group like the DAV, VFW, AL you don't even need that.
О Proof of U.S. Citizenship and Age. (For acceptable documents, please see paragraph 1 on the Ordering Instructions pages).
О Proof of Current Membership in a CMP Affiliated Organization. (Please see paragraph 2 on the Ordering Instructions pages).
О Proof of Participation in a Marksmanship or other Firearm Related Activity. (Please see paragraph 3 on the Ordering Instructions pages).
О Your State or locality requirements laws: Firearm Owners Identification Card (FOID) required for NJ and IL. Residents of CA, CT, NJ, NY and WA must have the rifles shipped to a state licensed dealer. Copy of dealer’s state license and shipping information must be provided with rifle orders. (Please see #4 on the Ordering Instructions pages for more information).
The third item can be met just by having a concealed weapons permit/license or a hunter safety course. And if over 60, that requirement is waved.
 
Back in the good old days before the CMP was the DCM and you could buy 1911's for about $25 that was sent to you via railway express . I bought several and they were brand new .
1903-A3's were about $10 , M1 Carbines ( with folding stocks known as M1A1 )about $15 , M1 Rifles were about $75 and NM M1's were about $125 . It has been so long ago I can't remember the exact price . :bad:
This was in the late 50's and early 60's and you only had to be a member of the NRA to purchase them .

I signed up my wife , father and father in law . Membership was $5 a year and bought several of the above in their names .
 
Well I'm not interested in paying a lot of money for a well worn 1911, I'm not a collector. I'm not too put off by the required two NCIS checks, but it is a extra hassle and hoop to jump through, but if I wanted one, I'd do it.
 
Well I'm not interested in paying a lot of money for a well worn 1911, I'm not a collector. I'm not too put off by the required two NCIS checks, but it is a extra hassle and hoop to jump through, but if I wanted one, I'd do it.
The first one you would never know is done as far as the NICS checks. The second one is done at your local gun shop and is the one done on the Form 4473 unless you are a Type 003 FFL ( C&R ) or if your state does it by just your CCW permit, then that would pass muster also. The CMP NICS check is the same as is done currently before a rifle is shipped. Both were required by CONgress, the BATFE, and the US Army in their MOA.
 
Like I said it sounds onerous, but I would do it. My beef is the high price for well worn goods, I can understand "collector's value", but CMP is supposed to provide shooters too, that is what I want, and it looks like I won't get it.

If they are $1000 like I have heard, I could buy a new Colt Competition, and have a better shooter.
 
The profits from the sale of surplus guns and ammo is how CMP funds much of their competitions and events.
And how they were able to fund their state of the art range in Alabama. I just wish I was closer to it. Only one state away but a 13 hour drive. When in Ohio it is more states away but a shorter trip. The good thing about not being closer, I don't get to go to the South Store and spend money. Scroll down to the third picture in Winter Weather Interrupts Competition During 2017 Talladega 600 - Civilian Marksmanship Program. Those targets are all electronic and not paper. And you can see each shot's placement on a monitor at each shooting position.
 

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