True gun control begins with eliminating the problem at it's roots.

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True gun control begins with eliminating the problem at it's roots. That big evil NRA is the place to begin, but is it really? Let's take a look at the real issue here.

In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.

In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.

In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.

In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.

In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby's cafeteria.

In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.

In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.

In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school.

As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not. Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.

Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, nor Republican conservative was involved in these shootings and murders.

The logical solution is to take away guns from all registered Democrats and allow guns to only those who are responsible Americans.

From Pro gun Webb site.
 
Here I am thinking that Democrats don't like guns. You just proved that democrats like guns just as much as everyone else. When will you learn that it is not a persons political leans, race or gender etc. A persons mentality has a lot more to do with there weapons use. It is cute to post listing such as these but, they do deserve further study. I dare say the Lincoln was killed for that North/South more than anything. In addition, Democrats back in that day were you republican of today.
 
No one wants to say it so I will... punk minority youths killing each other over gangs, drugs and turf is where it must start. When you get them under control you can talk to the law-abiding citizens of this country. Reminds me of the U.N. wanting concessions on U.S. gun laws. meanwhile they can't control Russia, Syria, Iran or N. Korea.
 
In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.
Yet today's democrats are more akin to Oswald than Kennedy. I always said that Oswald should have just waited. The democrats of today are fighting for the same views Oswald held. They wage war on those of means. They want a guarantee of a job. They want high pay and benefits for unskilled labor. They want to tax the people and companies who employee them into oblivion. They regard employers as criminals. The entitlement generation of today fits Oswald beautifully.
 
And D_ick Cheney shot Harry Wittington.

Um, what does political affiliation have to do with it?

Just in case you didn't get the object of the OP, these people either killed or tried to kill people, your **** Cheney remark was od, Cheney's was an accident to which no one was killed and it wasn't premeditated where as the other's were.
 
Just in case you didn't get the object of the OP, these people either killed or tried to kill people, your **** Cheney remark was od, Cheney's was an accident to which no one was killed and it wasn't premeditated where as the other's were.

Great. Someone actually took the time and energy to formulate a list of 19 leftist types that killed someone else in the last 148 years. My question still stands, "what does political affiliation have to do with the intent to do harm or murder on someone else?".

It's a cute list and some have enjoyed it. But the point is what?

As a side note, the first murderer you listed could not have even been involved with the N R A either. The N R A started in 1872, 7 years later.

So the list was handpicked by someone to try to show some causal relationship that doesn't exist.
 
Great. Someone actually took the time and energy to formulate a list of 19 leftist types that killed someone else in the last 148 years. My question still stands, "what does political affiliation have to do with the intent to do harm or murder on someone else?".

It's a cute list and some have enjoyed it. But the point is what?

As a side note, the first murderer you listed could not have even been involved with the N R A either. The N R A started in 1872, 7 years later.

So the list was handpicked by someone to try to show some causal relationship that doesn't exist.

Hey wolf, your posts are usually right on. I find your responses odd here. Everyone has off days I guess.
The first murderer...you referring to Lincoln assassination? There was no implication of a connection to the NRA. Though your comment is correct there was no need because an NRA connection was never implied.
You ask what does party affiliation have to do with it. It is about a mind set and thought process. Enlighten me and post a list of similar murders and mass shootings perpetrated primarily by those coming from the "right".
Not hammering you because I usually like your posts. This one is odd.
 
Hey wolf, your posts are usually right on. I find your responses odd here. Everyone has off days I guess.
The first murderer...you referring to Lincoln assassination? There was no implication of a connection to the NRA. Though your comment is correct there was no need because an NRA connection was never implied.
You ask what does party affiliation have to do with it. It is about a mind set and thought process. Enlighten me and post a list of similar murders and mass shootings perpetrated primarily by those coming from the "right".
Not hammering you because I usually like your posts. This one is odd.


Thanks for your words. Much appreciated. Instead, I decided to go after the original list. Here's what I found:

John Wilkes Booth - Booth became politically active in the 1850's, joining the Know-Nothing-Party, an organization devoted to reducing the stream of immigrants into the United States. He was also an extremely conservative Episcopal. Booth ardently supported the institution of slavery and in 1859 joined a Virginia company that aided in the capture of John Brown after his raid at Harper's Ferry. Booth was an eyewitness to Brown's execution. During the Civil War, Booth worked as a Confederate secret agent. He met frequently with the heads of the Secret Service, Jacob Thompson and Clement Clay, in Montreal. Liberal and left leaning? I think not.

Charles J. Guiteau - He wrote a speech for Garfield which pretty much sealed Garfield's election. Guiteau deeming himself responsible for Garfield's victory insisted on an ambassadorship. He was rejected every time he personally requested one and eventually was told by the Secretary of State to never return. This is why Guiteau killed Garfield. Why would a democrat write a Republican's election speech?

Lee Harvey Oswald was a communist sympathizer who at one point, when living in Russia, went to the US Embassy and denounced his US citizenship. He married a Russian woman and later went back tothe the US Embassy to return back to the US. His political affiliation was communist not socialist.

First three are wrong on that list. Hmmm... how many more are?

Which attempted assassin did your post mean for Gerald Ford? Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme or Sara Jane Moore? Let's look at both.

Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme was one of the leading voices of the Manson Clan. I have searched and searched and could not find anything about a political party she was affilitated with.
Sara Jane Moore was an SLA (Symbionese Liberation Army) sympathizer which was a rogue left winged revolutionary group that committed bank robberies and kidnapped Patty Hearst. Whether she was a democrat or not, I could not find out researching. But definitely spot on at being a radical leftist... democrat? I couldn't find that out.

John Hinckley Jr. was undoubtedly insane and so obsessed with Jodie Foster that he came up with several ways to have her notice him which even included a plan to hijack a plane. He later went with trying to assassinate President Reagan. However, his family was so conservative they gave a lot of money to the George H. W. Bush campaign. Hinckly is a conservative.

I think I have made my point... if not, here's a good read I found:

Psycho Dave's Commentary: Are All Presidential Assassins "Liberals"?
 
No time but I will get back to you. It's not necessarily about Democrats but the mindset of those coming from the left. I will do some more research and thanks for your good response.
 
Great. Someone actually took the time and energy to formulate a list of 19 leftist types that killed someone else in the last 148 years. My question still stands, "what does political affiliation have to do with the intent to do harm or murder on someone else?".

It's a cute list and some have enjoyed it. But the point is what?

As a side note, the first murderer you listed could not have even been involved with the N R A either. The N R A started in 1872, 7 years later.

So the list was handpicked by someone to try to show some causal relationship that doesn't exist.
I think what he's showing is that the majority of wacko shooting have been the very people who call for you to be disarmed. The rhetoric from the left regarding gun owners is violent. They believe we are criminals and should be jailed. Others say we belong in concentration camps and executed. Real crazy people in the democrat party. Pro-abortion baby killers who won't kill a criminal.
 

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