TRENDING: Trump Pick AG William Barr Supports Gun Control


Did you know that Trump's Attorney General nominee William Barr supported a Magazine Ban and Gun Registration?
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WB: "I would prefer a limitation on the clip size. But ultimately, I would recommend the President sign a bill that had the Brady waiting period and the DeConcini assault weapons provisions in it." -- Barr Confirmation Hearing Day 1 November 12, 1991
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New Attorney General Nominee William Barr’s Record on Guns Revealed
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Dec 08, 2018

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President Trump said yesterday that he intends to nominate William Barr as Sessions’ replacement. The choice has been greeted by applause from both Democrats and Republicans. Barr is a Bush 41 retread, having served as Assistant Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General, and finally as Attorney General. BATFE was under the Department of Treasury during Bush 41’s term and the Department of Justice had only limited authority over firearms.
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Barr has said little about firearms or gun control during his career, but he is widely considered to be the author of PL 101-647, The Crime Control Act of 1990.
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The Crime Control Act of 1990 had a number of firearms provisions. The Gun Free School Zone Act is the biggie, but probably the work of Senator Herb Kohl of Wisconsin – not Barr. The GFSZA’s strange rules set the context for MGO v. AAPS, despite SCOTUS finding much of it unconstitutional in Lopez.
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The ban on domestic assembly of semiautomatic rifles prohibited from importation is Barr’s big aggravation in The Crime Control Act of 1990. This was a follow on to Bush 41’s 1989 prohibition of ‘unsporting’ long arms importation. Other provisions:
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– Increased prison sentences for SBRs, SBSs, and destructive devices to 10 years.
– Barred firearms transfers to non-residents of the USA
– Banned firearms in federal court facilities
– Cleaned up bad grammar in previous gun control statutes.
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My thoughts:
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Hmmm.
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OPS, I know you like this ‘bush retread’...what are your thoughts? And, would you still like him had a ‘democrat’ nominated him? Lastly, how does one ‘drain a swamp’ when all the same players are always picked?
 

BluesStringer

Les Brers
Everyone who buys a permission slip supports gun control. I supported it thusly for more than 30 years..... Until I didn't anymore. There aren't enough people who don't support gun control in one form or another to combine with credibility against politicians like Barr and Trump who have influence over more (or in the rarest of cases, less) gun control. The permit system is one of the shiny baubles used by government to fraudulently make people think it supports, protects and defends their rights. Until people start combining in mass opposition to the theft of their rights, they guarantee for themselves that the thievery will continue with impunity. One can't at once participate in systems that defy and violate their rights, and then b!tch and moan about the tyrants responsible for violating them. I mean, they can, but they shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone with two synapses of brain cells to rub together.

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XD40scinNC

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Let's hear from all the Trumpeters about how 2A friendly Cheeto Man is. When are these idiots going to wake up and recognize he is a complete and total fraud, and so far in over his head he can't even see daylight.
 
Let's hear from all the Trumpeters about how 2A friendly Cheeto Man is. When are these idiots going to wake up and recognize he is a complete and total fraud, and so far in over his head he can't even see daylight.

True dat.
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However, trump, like all presidents on both sides, do not enact law. It is the legislatures who do that. Presidents do “set the tone”, and coerce their party members how to think and act. Such as Obama stating “you didn’t make that”, and Trumps fallacy that a “wall” will stop crime and welfare. Both, of course, are complete and utter bullsh|t.
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The problem is more than tri-fold, and would take many threads to explain and understand.
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The lowest common denominator is, the vacuous voters, who vote without knowing their candidates background and “on the record” positions.
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Ask anybody who votes to name just 3 bills or resolutions, most would not have a clue.
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Ask the very few who may know what bills or resolutions they are aware of if they read said bills top to bottom, again, not a clue. Which is why legislators give names to bills such as “patriot act”, among others.
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And if a bill is too long to read? It should be an undisputed and automatic NO, not matter what the intent may be.
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And then the issue of representatives having horrendous track records of voting against the constitution, they are still re-elected, for “party unity”.
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The system is set up to pit Americans against Americans, the goal being corporate welfare and world domination, as we invade other countries while demanding our borders be protected.
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Well, it has been discussed here many times, but human beings are taught and bred to follow, rather than live free and independently. To go outside of the party structure is blasphemous to them.
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Blues is among the very few who actually understands and gets it.
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The way I see it, the natural bill of rights that are outlined, NAP, property rights and contract rights are all that are needed. Period.
 

niceshootintex

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True dat.
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However, trump, like all presidents on both sides, do not enact law. It is the legislatures who do that. Presidents do “set the tone”, and coerce their party members how to think and act. Such as Obama stating “you didn’t make that”, and Trumps fallacy that a “wall” will stop crime and welfare. Both, of course, are complete and utter bullsh|t.
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The problem is more than tri-fold, and would take many threads to explain and understand.
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The lowest common denominator is, the vacuous voters, who vote without knowing their candidates background and “on the record” positions.
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Ask anybody who votes to name just 3 bills or resolutions, most would not have a clue.
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Ask the very few who may know what bills or resolutions they are aware of if they read said bills top to bottom, gain, not a clue. Which is why legislators give names to bills such as “patriot act”, among others.
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And then the issue of representatives having horrendous track records of voting against the constitution, they are still re-elected, for “party unity”.
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The system is set up to pit Americans against Americans, the goal being corporate welfare and world domination, as we invade other countries while demanding our borders be protected.
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Well, it has been discussed here many times, but human beings are taught and bred to follow, rather than live free and independently. To go outside of the party structure is blasphemous to them.
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Blues is among the very few who actually understands and gets it.
I gave up on the idea of POTUS being different on 2A issues last year after him throwing due process under the bus. He's too transactional to understand the Constitutional implications and I do think he'd be led by the nose if the "conservatives" jumped onto a new gun bill and these bills are coming without a doubt.

He's backed into a corner (finally) on immigration and potentially on 2A so he'll either act decisively or capitulate and it'll determine his future in either case. There is no nuance on these two issues and he'll be judged in a binary manner so he should act accordingly.

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I gave up on the idea of POTUS being different on 2A issues last year after him throwing due process under the bus. He's too transactional to understand the Constitutional implications and I do think he'd be led by the nose if the "conservatives" jumped onto a new gun bill and these bills are coming without a doubt.

He's backed into a corner (finally) on immigration and potentially on 2A so he'll either act decisively or capitulate and it'll determine his future in either case. There is no nuance on these two issues and he'll be judged in a binary manner so he should act accordingly.

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There is no “backing into corners”. Everything is merely a litmus test, to see how far they can/will proceed before having to wait another go-round. Nothing about government is for freedom or liberty.
 

niceshootintex

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There is no “backing into corners”. Everything is merely a litmus test, to see how far they can/will proceed before having to wait another go-round. Nothing about government is for freedom or liberty.
Do me a favor. Reform your own posts based on your thoughts and consider not rewriting mine as to what you feel they ought to be.

Trump is in fact backed into a corner and it's his own fault. He should have either killed DACA or done a deal on "immigration reform" last year as he promised to do but he signed a bad omnibus bill instead and got nothing and here we are. He's two years in and is now down to his last position where he has any leverage and if he blinks on this then he might as well step aside in 2020 because in the next election, he's losing most of his independent voter support.

Your point about the legislature is correct though because these POTUS's have been nothing more than a series of speed bumps for the crew that sits in Congressional seats and that will never change. He will end up as a Carter or HW the way this past year has gone and I don't mean the media histrionics about porn stars and mean tweets that seem to get everyone's attention. If he just did as he promised then that would just be trigger fodder for the weird, fragile, or easily offended.

The 2A is in no better hands than it has been for the past four before him.

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Do me a favor. Reform your own posts based on your thoughts and consider not rewriting mine as to what you feel they ought to be.

I was not attempting to rewrite your post, Tex, you may be taking things too personally. I merely responded, taking into consideration trumps record prior to becoming president; he has no regard for private property as he publicly stated he supports and actually utilized eminent domain, his gun positions are known, he had no issue at all with tax payers footing bills as noted by omnibus, as well as his stated position on supporting democrats all of his life and advocated paying ‘fair share’, etc. I made an ‘On the Record’ sheet based upon facts that I posted here, it wouldn’t surprise me if it offended some folks here.
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This proves my point though, it is blasphemous to consider dropping out the system that enslaves, and that few even looked into trumps past prior to electing him to the highest office in the land.
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You get two “choices” at election; they are predetermined ahead of time.
 

niceshootintex

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I was not attempting to rewrite your post, Tex, you may be taking things too personally. I merely responded, taking into consideration trumps record prior to becoming president; he has no regard for private property as he publicly stated he supports and actually utilized eminent domain, his gun positions are known, he had no issue at all with tax payers footing bills as noted by omnibus, as well as his stated position on supporting democrats all of his life and advocated paying ‘fair share’, etc. I made an ‘On the Record’ sheet based upon facts that I posted here, it wouldn’t surprise me if it offended some folks here.
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This proves my point though, it is blasphemous to consider dropping out the system that enslaves, and that few even looked into trumps past prior to electing him to the highest office in the land.
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You get two “choices” at election; they are predetermined ahead of time.
Got it and thanks. What you have stated numerous times before is not blasphemous at all and I actually get and understand why people don't vote except at the local level or not at all anymore. Like sticking our fingers in the dike is all it's become.

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