Travon Martin...the new baby Jesus

[JimTh]

When are the idiots going to get it. Travon was bashing a poor guys head in when he had a heart attack. Maybe that is what obama meant when he said "if i had a son he would look just like travon" They are both Jesus

Church Displays Bleeding Trayvon Martin Nativity Scene

 

[BC1]

How about a nativity scene of a young husband lying on the ground; bullet in head, a young wife screaming and four young black youths escaping in his carjacked Range rover from the Short Hills mall in NJ. There is only one Trayvon Martin. There are thousands of victims of inner-city urban thugs. The artist needs to get his damn facts straight.

 

[gunnerbob]

When are the idiots going to get it. Travon was bashing a poor guys head in when he had a heart attack. Maybe that is what obama meant when he said "if i had a son he would look just like travon" They are both Jesus

Church Displays Bleeding Trayvon Martin Nativity Scene

Uhh... who gives a sh!t? It's not: "a piece of art that comments on our times", it's a showing of how ignorant our society is. We martyr a punk kid who took one to the chest for thinking he was the baddest thing on the block and ignore the horrible slaughters in places like Detroit and Chicago... or Iraq, Lybia, Afghanistan, Mexico and Sierra Leone. Some of the people in this country are very sad excuses for intelligent beings.

 

[SR40c]

Piss on Saint Skittles, he got what he had coming.

 

[mappow]

The only ART I appreciate is that of the individual protecting his self and or his family. Trayvon got what he made. He wrought his final destruction. Of course this probably was the ONLY time in his life he was forced to be responsible for his own actions. It probably was only for 30 seconds before he expired. Sad commentary for a young man. Repeated commentary for a black male between the age of 14 and 28. Juz saying.........

 

[festus]

This is why the liberals are the way they are. They don't mind substituting God forwhat ever happens to be handy and a hot topic. Personally I think Iit was a bad move on the part of the people setting up the nativity scene.
BLASPHEMOUS describes it best.

 

[wolf_fire]

I've read comments here and on breitbart, that have complained about racism, honoring Trayvon as hero, and how blacks commit the majority of crimes while being only 13% of the population.

Has no one realized that this so-called artwork was done for a Christian Church? What blasphemy to put a criminal thug who got shot perpetrating his crimes into a Nativity scene; a scene that is to depict our Lord and Savior, God himself transcended into flesh in order to save us from our sin and eternal damnation. This is the most despicable, low down, base act I have seen in quite some time. I'm further appalled that the church leaders, pastor, elders, and congregation have allowed this atrocity to disgrace their grounds. If this was my church, I would be shouting from the mountain tops to have this trash removed from my church.

This churns my stomach in much the same way as the congregants of Westboro Baptist Church sicken me.

 

[mappow]

Matthew 7:15

"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?"
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Sheep's clothing equates to a Hoodie. Shame on these people, but then again they have no shame.

 

[dogshawred]

From the great land of progressives, what else would you expected?
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Artists who think they can convey a concept with their works usually can't connect with reality on a normal basis. I believe this is the case with this individual as well as the congregation.
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What is being portrayed has nothing to do with innocents during the time of Christ being killed, has nothing to do with historical biblical times. But is conceptual statement of political incorrectness. A young black person is killed during an act of violence and it is the defender who is condemned and vilified. Doesn't matter that he has stood trial, found not guilty of all charges. Society has deemed that what he has done against a person of color is a abomination in the eyes of God.
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There will be some who will make it their life's work to keep this incident in the publics memory as long as possible, keeping alive the torment they feel has been visited upon their people by the white masters from which they have long been freed. Too soon they forget the black country men that in Africa sold them into slavery because they were from tribes that fell to them during in fighting amongst competing tribes.
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Transition from slavery to current times have in no measure been a picnic and is far from truly over. Actions of narrow minded and limited thinking individuals are not helping their cause and will ever keep them distant from society in general.
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The pastor says the image is hard to look at and yet she allows such controversial images to be associated with her church, congregation and herself. It goes without saying, MSM's lack of coverage speaks volumes.

 

[Warrior1256]

Piss on Saint Skittles, he got what he had coming.

Exactly. That's why there will not be a civil suit. Martin's criminal history was not allowed as evidence in the criminal trial but in a civil trial it would be allowed and I just bet we would find out that Martin was a thug with an extensive criminal history.

 

[BC1]

Exactly. That's why there will not be a civil suit. Martin's criminal history was not allowed as evidence in the criminal trial but in a civil trial it would be allowed and I just bet we would find out that Martin was a thug with an extensive criminal history.

A civil suit was settled with the HOA.

 

[2Awarrior]

Ouch. I didn't know that suit succeeded.

 

[festus]

The fact that it was settled out of court means the HOA has no fight left in them and just wanted out of the limelight...

 

[Itstjs]

Stupid doesnt fall far from the tree I see.....Theres apples everywhere...........

 

[BC1]

The fact that it was settled out of court means the HOA has no fight left in them and just wanted out of the limelight...

They had no money to fight. Their insurer refused to cover them for their actions... which were highly negligent. They endorsed GZ as a neighborhood watch commander and advised people to call him. They endorsed him to without knowing he was armed, had no security license, experience, training, education or insurance. That is as negligent as the HOA could possibly be... willful, wanton and reckless behavior. Has nothing to do with whether the shooting was justified.

 

[JimTh]

They had no money to fight. Their insurer refused to cover them for their actions... which were highly negligent. They endorsed GZ as a neighborhood watch commander and advised people to call him. They endorsed him to without knowing he was armed, had no security license, experience, training, education or insurance. That is as negligent as the HOA could possibly be... willful, wanton and reckless behavior. Has nothing to do with whether the shooting was justified.

Your statement seems to imply that only licensed and insured security agents have the right to defend themselves. Let's suppose that Zimmerman was not armed and travon finished his willful murder of Zimmerman...would that be morally superior to what the final result was because Zimmerman did not have the level of training you think he was supposed to have. If you ask me Zimmerman exercised considerably more restraint than a licensed security agent would have exercised simply because all you "trained" dudes feel like you can react by killing another person. Your training teaches you when it is appropriate to kill so you enter into a situation where killing another human is part of the event. Most people that carry weapons do not approach a situation where killing someone is a possible outcome. Only cops and you well "trained" people view killing as a possible outcome. That is why cops and "well trained" people don't hesitate to kill. And kill they do!

 

[BC1]

Your statement seems to imply that only licensed and insured security agents have the right to defend themselves. Let's suppose that Zimmerman was not armed and travon finished his willful murder of Zimmerman...would that be morally superior to what the final result was because Zimmerman did not have the level of training you think he was supposed to have. If you ask me Zimmerman exercised considerably more restraint than a licensed security agent would have exercised simply because all you "trained" dudes feel like you can react by killing another person. Your training teaches you when it is appropriate to kill so you enter into a situation where killing another human is part of the event. Most people that carry weapons do not approach a situation where killing someone is a possible outcome. Only cops and you well "trained" people view killing as a possible outcome. That is why cops and "well trained" people don't hesitate to kill. And kill they do!

This isn't about whether he had a right to self-defense. He clearly does. We're referring to the acts of an organization (HOA) from whom the public expects a reasonable standard of prudent behavior. We have training standards, testing and licensing to ensure public safety. The HOA must not endorse security practices that fall outside of statutory requirements of training and licensing. It isn't enough to believe he is properly trained... he must be properly trained and licensed. Civil actions sometimes charge actions that go against public sensibilities, against the standard of the reasonable person or for acts outside of regulatory requirements. That's what the HOA suit was about. It had nothing to do with GZ's actions but rather the HOA's actions.
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My best friend is a criminal defense attorney. He sums-it-up this way... "If you come to me and ask if I think it's OK for you to conduct neighborhood watch patrols and you have no security license, experience, training, education or insurance, I will advise you that this is a very bad idea and not to do it."

 

[mappow]

I hate to say it but that's why the State (s) have enacted a lot of Laws concerning liabilities and Licenses. There is either a minimum standard of acceptance as stated in statue or not. The ladder is what the HOA was liable for. Of course TM's family Lawyer knew this and immediately went after their jugular. "PAYDAY" for TM's family. The whole thing was a travesty of Justice.

 

[Bhoffman]

A civil suit was settled with the HOA.

State Your source.

 

[festus]

If GZ was acting in the capacity of neighborhood watch, that seems to me to be a voluntary position. The HOA was not paying for licensed uniformed armed security...and even if they did it would not have ended much differently. They could not have legally disarmed GZ for his nightly strolls, he is a private citizen...the HOA was low hanging fruit for an ambulance/hearse chasing scumbag. The fact that GZ was a dues paying member alone could have put them in the crosshairs. It is situations like these that reinforce to me the fact that I never want any dealings with a HOA.
Cut your grass to x height
Lawn ornaments must be approved and the list goes on.
Basically the neighborhood gutless bullies enforcing their view of nirvana on the home owners.
Even though I hate HOA's they were not the ones who shot TM. GZ did that in self defense...it just happened to take place in a neighborhood common area and that is enough for the blood sucking ambulance chasing scumbags can take advantage of the HOA's bond/insurance...the POS family law expert took full advantage of the shooting to extort money from a perceived deep pocket.