Traveling through California with a Gen 4 G23?

[BunnMan]

Howdy all...just looking for some guidance.

I know my Gen 4 G23 is not California compliant and therefore "illegal" to have in the state, also the 13 round mags I have for it. I will be traveling into California for a two week stretch for work shortly. I plan to spend the weekend between the two weeks in Nevada, where I am legal to carry. I want to fly out with my G23 packed according to TSA regs as I have done many times before to other destinations. Typically I announce to the agent at the counter I am checking a firearm in my bag, they look at it, I lock the box, the put the TSA tag on it and I pick up my bag off the belt at the other end of the line...no sweat. Traveling into Cali has me concerned though. Does TSA or other law enforcement do inspections of firearms that come in with airline travelers? I've never been asled for the model or even the make and they don't list it on the tag. Am I likely to get found out bringing it "through" Cali so I have it in Nevada where I am legal to carry?

Thanks for any help...

-BunnMan

 

[JMike]

Before I continue I would just like to say that I don't believe anyone should have the right to tell you what you can carry to protect yourself. That being said, if taking your Gen 4 G23 into California is illegal the I don't believe you should take it at all. Whether you are caught with it or not doesn't matter. It is a matter of integrity and character. If you are caught it would just give California and the rest of the liberals another weapon for their anti-gun assault. It is a chance that I personally am not willing to take myself. Breaking the law is breaking the law even if the law may be wrong.

JMike

 

[NavyLCDR]

You can possess the handgun itself so long as it is unloaded and in a locked container. The 13 round magazines will have to be dissasembled before entering and while in California so that you are only in possession of parts and not magazines. I would keep them in the locked container as well and never consent to a LEO search of the locked container other than proving the gun is unloaded at the airport if requested. The disassembled magazine parts will also have to go in checked luggage as firearms parts are prohibited to carry on the plane just as much as firearms are.

Handguns not on California's approved list are not illegal to possess in California. (Which is completely different than 'assault weapons', BTW.)

 

[BunnMan]

Jmike,

I unserand and appreciate your comments. My intentions weren't to cheat the law to the point of disobedience but to clarify the necessary steps that I may have to comply with to make it legal. Hence the quotations around the "illegal" term. I am aware that even though some firearms are restricted or outlawed in certain territories there are typically provisions for transporting them through those territories. Navy seems to have the scoop there.

Navy,

Is there a simplistic explanation of that in official legal code somewhere that I could refer to? I have no problem complying with all the detail in your outline but would like to confirm I would be in the right once I do.

Thanks to you both!!!

 

[NavyLCDR]

Navy,

Is there a simplistic explanation of that in official legal code somewhere that I could refer to? I have no problem complying with all the detail in your outline but would like to confirm I would be in the right once I do.

Thanks to you both!!!

You are asking for a lot since we are talking about California....

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Handgun Safety, Functionality, and Testing Requirements

No handgun may be manufactured or sold to the public in California unless it is of a make and
model that has passed required safety and functionality tests and is approved for publication in the
Department of Justice’s official list of handguns certified as safe for sale in California. Any person
who manufactures, imports into the state for sale, sells, gives, or lends an unsafe handgun is guilty
of a misdemeanor. (Penal Code § 12125.)

The current list of handguns certified as safe for sale in California is available on the
Bureau of Firearms website at Link Removed.

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Section 12025 does not apply to or affect any of the following:
The transportation or carrying of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being
concealed upon the person by any citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years
who resides or is temporarily within this state, and is not within the excepted classes
prescribed by Penal Code Sections 12021 or 12021.1 or Welfare and Institutions Code sections
8100 or 8103, provided that the following applies:
- the firearm is within a motor vehicle and it is locked in the vehicle's trunk or in a locked container
in the vehicle other than the utility or glove compartment, and;
- when the firearm is carried by the person to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose, the
firearm must be contained in a locked container while being physically carried. (Penal Code §
12026.1.)

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It is unlawful for any person to manufacture, cause to be manufactured, import into the state, keep
for sale, or offer or expose for sale, or give or lend, any large-capacity magazine. (Penal Code §
12020(a)(2).)

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A large capacity magazine means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more
than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that has been permanently
altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds, a tubular magazine that is contained in
a lever-action firearm, or a .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device. (Penal Code §
12020(c)(25).)

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As far as disassembling your magazine and bringing it into California:

http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/DOJ-large-cap-magazines-2005-11-10.pdf

"Q3. Can you import all of the parts of a single hi-cap magazine at once, provided they are unassembled?

A3. Yes"