I live in Kansas. We are a constitutional carry state, meaning no CCW is required to carry a handgun concealed. Or open for that matter. I went through the CCW class in Missouri and was a legal CCW holder. I gotta love my new state! Although, I did feel jerked around when I first moved here and applied to have my CCW transferred. It was within 2 weeks of expiration, so I called the sheriffs department of my county and spoke to a deputy. She assured me that it would be no problem to have it transferred and renewed. I made a trip to the court house, paid the non refundable fee, before the renewal date on my MO CCW, and continued to carry. 2 months later I got a letter saying that since my MO CCW expired I would be required to complete a KS course to conceal carry. I called and told the asst. attny. General that my papers were filed before the expiration date. He Didnt care. Said to retake the class if I wanted to carry. Or I could submit my course synopsis and a form signed by my instructor and it would have to go through a committee to be approved. I had just sold and put 2 farms worth of contents into 3 separate storage units over 5 hours away and had no idea where my ass was let alone a folder of papers from almost 3 years prior. In the meantime KS became a constitutional carry state, so I just let it drop. But I'm still kind of ticked off about it. Now my question is this - What do I need to do to legally conceal carry outside of KS? We are going on vacation in November and will be driving through several western states and I want to be armed. Do I need a KS CCW permit? I have been on google for hours tonight trying to get answers but everyone assumes you have a current CCW from your state. We will be driving through OK, TX, NM, AZ, NV, and possibly CA & CO. Any advice?
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I've never heard of any state that does "transfers" of permission slips. Not saying that there is no such state, but I've never heard of it. If KS doesn't have a way of "transferring" a permission slip from another state to theirs, then the requirement to take a KS class to get a permission slip there was always your responsibility to take care of. The fact that your first contact gave you wrong information doesn't change that.
If you want whatever reciprocity a KS permission slip will give you, then yes, you have to get a KS permission slip before you head out on vacation. There may be cheaper alternatives with lower requirements with a non-resident permission slip from another state, but you'd be pressing your luck to get that done before November, whereas, your new home-state would probably be faster. Or you could ask the assistant AG which would be faster, starting the whole process over from scratch, or going the "committee to be approved" route, and if he/she says the committee would be faster (or even about the same amount of time), acquire the course synopsis via download or email and have your instructor mail you a signed copy of your cert. of completion.
Blues
If you want whatever reciprocity a KS permission slip will give you, then yes, you have to get a KS permission slip before you head out on vacation. There may be cheaper alternatives with lower requirements with a non-resident permission slip from another state, but you'd be pressing your luck to get that done before November, whereas, your new home-state would probably be faster. Or you could ask the assistant AG which would be faster, starting the whole process over from scratch, or going the "committee to be approved" route, and if he/she says the committee would be faster (or even about the same amount of time), acquire the course synopsis via download or email and have your instructor mail you a signed copy of your cert. of completion.
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Inform yourself of the existing reciprocity agreements between states and the actual laws of the states you are traveling though and to at www.handgunlaw.us. Your resident KS permit will be recognized in OK, TX, NM, AZ, NV, and CO, but not in CA.
Note that CA just recently enacted extreme gun control measures, known as gunpocalypse, that will go in effect on January 1, 2017. CA already has strict gun control laws on the books. It is up to you to decide whether you want to support the economy of a state that blatantly violates the Constitution.
Note that CA just recently enacted extreme gun control measures, known as gunpocalypse, that will go in effect on January 1, 2017. CA already has strict gun control laws on the books. It is up to you to decide whether you want to support the economy of a state that blatantly violates the Constitution.
XD40scinNC
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He doesn't have a KS permit, or any other permit. His MO permit has expired, making it worthless.
Without a permit I can only recommend leaving the gun at home in most cases.
bofh
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As Blues already pointed out, the best and fastest course of action would be to get a KS permit ASAP, hence my post. I assume I should have stated "Your resident KS permit would be recognized" instead of "Your resident KS permit will be recognized".
Even if the OP had no permit at the time of travel, leaving the gun at home is not his only option.
I would prefer NOT to grace the state of CA with my presence, but my ex daughter in law moved my 4 year old grandson out there so I will swallow my pride and vow to spend as little $ as I can. I do not have a resident KS permit as KS is a constitutional carry state (no permit required, concealed or open carry). Thanks for your reply!
Hatchetman
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Blueshell
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The Federal Constitution is not valid in all Federal territories.
The easy answer is to just carry whatever you want, wherever you want, and keep your mouth shut about it.
But you want "legally" and that's a whole other box of problems. Get a non-resident permit from every state you're going to travel through which offers a non-resident permit; even if they honor other permits you already have. Redundant levels of coverage are your best friend.
Always carry concealed. This is so you will comply with various obscure laws you don't even know exist.
Do not carry a knife of any kind. If you think gun laws are complicated, look up knife laws. Just dodge that bullet now.
Do not carry a taser. Same reason as knives.
Do not carry a spray. Same reason as tasers.
Avoid carrying an "assault weapon" as you travel. A 5-shot revolver is best IMO.
I would not let that states ridiculous laws stop me from visiting my grandson, but I would take every step possible not to spend on dime while there.
I would bring supplies, top off my gas before you cross the border, avoid toll roads, and if at all possible, book a hotel in a bordering state.
It may be inconvenient, but I wouldn't give the state of California one penny in sales, or any other tax.
I'm not sure what the problem is. Get a KS CCW and be done with it. Dang!!
You will be good in all the states you mentioned except CA. CA, (The people's republic of California) does not recognize a CCW from any other state nor do they recognize the Constitution of The United States.
Sam
You will be good in all the states you mentioned except CA. CA, (The people's republic of California) does not recognize a CCW from any other state nor do they recognize the Constitution of The United States.
Sam
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