Training Beyond Basic CHL/CCW Requirements?

Have You Taken Further Training?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 69.7%

  • No

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • No, but I plan to.

    Votes: 8 24.2%
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Samefly

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I'm a new shooter and planning to get my CHL soon. I definitely understand that shooting paper targets and real life situations (that happens in seconds) are definitely two drastically different things. While I was trying to find more info on CHL and CHL training I came across this news story:


part 2:

ok so beyond the typical anti gun undertones, obvious lack of experience/judgement of the people in the story, and the fact that they chose people to give them the results they wanted (please let's not argue) I thought it made a good case on the importance of training. Overall I thought it raised some good points for new CHL/CCW holders.

All this had me wondering how many people here have taking any defensive/crisis courses? What course did you take and what did you think of them? Any tips or experience to share?
 
I've seen those videos before, I've been looking at a few places. I'd like something East Coast US and I keep finding places on the West Coast and Central US. Maybe someone else on here has some suggestions.

Excluding bad training, I don't see a down side to more training.
 
Is this a taboo topic? I thought there would be a lot more discussion or stories about people's training experiences.

What should I look for when finding a training class?
 
No, the forum has it's ups and downs, there will be people to comment.

The videos on the other hand, even though you don't want an argument, are taboo. Those videos are just terrible when it comes to representation of law abiding carriers. To say the video had anti gun undertones is like saying bin laden had anti American undertones. ABC got another hole torn into them for those videos.
 
Videos are definitely slanted.
One take away from the video is for CHL holders to train and be comfortable with their weapon.
Don't get you license and then just store your gun in a safe or in a holster.
Get to the range, build up the muscle memory. Practice so the gun clears the holster, the clothes, and sights on target.
It's irresponsible not to.
 
Like I said earlier. My focus and what I got most from the video was how important training is. Just owning a gun isn't enough. Being able and willing to use it when NEEDED is what matters. I'm VERY new to this and see that I'll need to keep practicing and take some courses (learn new tactics, improve abilities, and eliminate any bad habits I may not be aware of). I was curious to see how any people have taken additional courses and what they thought of them. Also for those not planing to take a course, I was wondering why not?
 
Hubby and I and the kids all have further training than the ones required to get our CCW.They are actually not only informative but fun. Adrenalin based ones are best to learn. Once my operated knee get back to normal I'll get more training. Next to CCW courses, highly recommended are the the Home Protection courses. That should be the next step to your CCW courses.
 
Not only is important to get training with a firearm it is VITALLY important to continue running drills and increasing your muscle memory. In a high stress situation your body dumps massive amounts of adrenalne into your blood stream. Your fine motor skills decrease so if you have not spend hours and hours practicing in realistic scenarios your weapon is unlikely to help you at all. Consider this, an attacker can cover twenty feet and be on you in less than two seconds. That's less than two seconds to get your weapon out point it and shoot it. Notice I said point because two seconds is no way enough time to use a proper stance, insure you have a proper grip on the pistol and aquire a proper sight picture. You should practice clearing the holster and point shooting at close range. Often times you won't even have time to bring the gun up level so practice point shooting from the hip. That's my $.02 anyway.
 
ramrunnr said:
I've seen those videos before, I've been looking at a few places. I'd like something East Coast US and I keep finding places on the West Coast and Central US. Maybe someone else on here has some suggestions.

Excluding bad training, I don't see a down side to more training.
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Look at the U.S. Training Center at Myock, NC. It's like 15 mins from the Virginia border near Chesapeake, VA. Excellent training, they cover it all.
 
The video was likely the one that finally resulted in the result the anti-gun network wanted to put on the boob-tube. So, one set-up scenario shows bad results for the person carrying, keep in mind that somehow the "thug" knew who was the gun toter.... Here's just one place stories about REAL people saving lives with guns are kept: Home*|*The Armed Citizen

I wanted to post "Operation Self Defense" at KeepAndBearArms.com but thier server is jacked at the moment it would seem...

If you are wondering what we thought of the "next level" or higher courses we took, well, most of us are glad we did it and likely believe you should attend one or two yourself! Nobody should rely on the run of the mill, less than basic CCW course. ...Call me captain obvious.
 
A pistol course will take from 3 or 5 days, depending on the course you sign up for. The USTC has a bunk house so you can (recommended) that you sleep there. Get up early 6am. A little running & PT to loosen up (If you want to). Go to the mess hall for some Breakfast, eat, check your gear and meet-up at the designated range for your course at about 8-8:30. 12-12:30 LUNCH!!! Go to the mess hall, walk around or even go to the pro shop. After lunch, back to the course till 4:30 + (depending on course). Head back to the bunk house and watch tv or internet. Oh yeah, Dinner at the mess hall or hop in your truck and head to Virginia for some dinner & entertainment. (wouldn't recommend it due to long day of shooting and the early rise) They have the Black Bear Inn, which is real clean, nice & cozy with Cable, Pool Table, video games and gym. Stay on the Base!! 5 days will run you under $1k and you will need about 2500 rounds of whatever you're shooting.

Had fun will do it again.

Oh yeah, forgot to add. Their courses are "Tactical" not self-defense. You will see alot of foreign military and police agencies training at the site. If you are looking for "defensive" courses, than maybe something local in your area will suffice. They told us that on the first day. "We teach offensive courses, not defensive, because a good defense is a better offense."
 
Samefly said:
Is this a taboo topic? I thought there would be a lot more discussion or stories about people's training experiences.

What should I look for when finding a training class?
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Not a Taboo topic at at all, but those videos might as well be. They take some teens who don't own, shoot or carry guns, and then try to say the people who own, train, and practice would have the results that they did. Anti-Gun propaganda at it's best.
 
I definitely advocate more training for anyone who owns a gun whether they carry or not. I personally have had some great experiences with Suarez International. You can find associated instructors all over the country. Courses are available from 1/2 day "intro" to 1 day, full weekend and week long training.

Find someone in your area and learn what you can, use what you think works and throw out the rest. Take some time to test things out with airsoft and a willing partner.
 
I have taken a couple of additional training courses. Learned some very practical info on how to shoot around a corner, not give up a knee or artery as a target, correcting grip, magazine change drills and other things you can work on with out going to the range. Help with off-hand shooting. There are 1,000+ "tricks" or tips out there to help you improve. Most of the info needs to be demonstrated and physically done to get a feel for the technique. A good instructor can and will notice what you are doing that may be improved upon. Find a former LEO or military instructor. If you are in Mid Missouri look up Todd Burke as he has trained PDs, church security, etc. (Just a shout out for him.)
I don't have the money for as many courses as I want to take. I also use IDPA as a training "tool." All the stuff you work on at home, used at the range. It is mostly just fun, but it does help with finding your target, making sure shots, having to make quick reloads, and moving most of the time during the drill.
 
In addition to "training", I would suggest "education" on local, state, and federal laws relating to concealed carry, open carry, interstate transport, self-defense, lethal force, etc., etc. Surviving the legal system may be almost as important as surviving a defensive gun-use situation.
 
training is very important, i have friends who have bought guns, got their license to carry and probably go to the range once every 6 months and me on the other hand i shoot atleast 5x a week and run various timed drills,and i plan to start shooting gssf & idpa matches...
 
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