The recent mass murders might be averted if........

Since at least the last three out of four mass murders were committed by college students, maybe it might be prudent to require new students to have a psychological evaluation alongside of their physical for admission?

Since the onset of mental illness typically occurs between the ages of 17 - 26 an early diagnosis may prevent the student from living with an untreated mental illness and certainly will flag the student through NICS preventing them from purchasing firearms.

Also since most colleges do have an on campus clinic or nurses station, students diagnosed with early onset mental health issues could be monitored for medication compliance.

Your thoughts?
 
in a nation that grossly misinterprets mental illness, i wouldn't suggest giving them the authority to determine who is sane or not
however if found to have exhibited a destructive behaviour then and only then should they be reviewed/evaluated and care taken to prevent them from harming themselves or others
[FONT=arial, sans-serif][/FONT]my guess is those who have been in the news recently for such violence are mind controlled bots deliberately set up to make a newstory to manipulate the masses
 
I didn't even need a physical exam to be admitted into college earlier this year, and I am allowed to carry a concealed firearm on campus. I also don't think I would ever let anyone give me a psychological evaluation, I'd probably fail, despite the fact that I know that I'll never go crazy.
 
Oh, you want more government involvement in our private lives? No, not a good idea.

Then consider the problems of HIPAA meets FERPA. That's a collision I don't want to watch.

Umm, wait, one of the recent mass shooters was a psychiatrist. Yeah, that's gonna work out really well.
 
History has proven that no one can predict the random act's of evil, the only option is to be prepared to deal with and kill it when it rears it's ugly head.
 
Jumpin jeepers!! Now people want required phsyc tests just to go to college?

Why do people think they would always be perfectly "safe" if we could only find some magic way of preventing crap from happening?
 
GLADad, Because you think you'll fail a crazy test means to me that you would pass it. It's the crazy people that don't think they're crazy and think that they'll pass a crazy test that you need to watch out for.
 
Here's a thought to throw out there.

Why not make a law for anyone seeking a psych evaluation, be put on a list sent to the proper authorities in charge of registering firearms and/or to the local Police Dept and FFL holders. Banning anyone on that list to purchase firearms or ammunition.

I mean it's not a air-tight solution but it's a very good start. Of course there will always be loopholes, like the black market for one.

Stop restricting or punishing the respectful and lawful gun owners.
 
GLADad, Because you think you'll fail a crazy test means to me that you would pass it. It's the crazy people that don't think they're crazy and think that they'll pass a crazy test that you need to watch out for.

The government would consider us crazy for valuing liberty over their "security".
 
On one of my renewals for Kalifornia I was required to go through the psychiatric evaluation that the L.A. Cops go through. I thought it was the most worthless set of tests I had ever seen. I believed you had to be really off your rocker to flunk it.

I made that comment to a number of people and ran into one who had flunked it as well as his son. He was odd.
 
More laws is not the answer. That would just serve to empower the government and weaken the people.
This sob and others like him just need to be put down like a rabid dog.


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Simple solution is that the people in this country need to take their collective heads out of their azzes. Start taking responsibility for their lives. For their own decisions. Their own security. It's just incredulous to me that so many people are willing to put their fate in the hands of the crooks and freeloaders that we all call "The Government".
 
INTENTIONAL slippery slope. Rayb.

OP (original poster) reads like an anti gun activist. Anti gun, and anti Constitutional groups like MAIG have members who specialize in subverting topics like this on websites. They slip in and pretend to be on-board with gun rights, then subtly advocate undermining them. Thats what OP is up to.

This post is red-herring, an attempt to evade the topic.

First, the post starts with "in light of some connection between shooter and college" which is a lie. There IS NO CONNECTION, the shooting did not happen at the College. It was a matter of an ordinary Citizen, a movie theater Patron, bringing more than popcorn money. The college has no connection, and if you dont believe that statement, try to accuse them of it and watch the dance they attempt to do to evade any connection.

Analysis of these evasive and deceitful statements, in order:

""The recent mass murders might be averted if........"

[[lying right off, this was not a "mass murder" This is framed the same way as the lie that a small explosion (maybe a small pipe bom b was a "WMD".
ITs an attempt to manufacture hysteria and blow the event up into some giant proportion that it isnt. The previous weekend to this, 8 people were shot to death and 40 injured in Chicago, is THAT mass murder?]]

"Since at least the last three out of four mass murders"

[[thats a play on a cognitive error of "familiarity breeds acceptance" or "availability cascade" OP is playing that the Reader accepts him/her as credible and will fall for that lie being repeated]]

" were committed by college students, "

[[False and un founded statements. Holmes was not at the theater in the capacity of a "college student"- this is an attempt to project blame back on the College to try to hold them responsible, and is a slick underhanded attempt to invoke the political idea that was floated lately about denying NICS checks to anyone at a college who failed a psych exam. "un founded" statements means OP didnt prove this statement, just threw it blindly out there, WHAT shootings? Prove a connection. No connection was proven or given and thats a sign of a false argument]]

"maybe"

[[All sorts of false positions are floated on "maybe" and "can" or "might be" - con artists selling merchandise and phoney pills on TV always use "can do" as in "this pill CAN help your condition." Snake oil, in other words. "Maybe" indicates no proof, else the statement would be "this has or will happen based on this evidence. 'May be' is a sign of a deceptive argument.]]

"it might"

[[repeating the pattern from above, repeat it to attempt to get people to accept the argument is true, without any evidence]]

" be prudent to require new students to have a psychological evaluation alongside of their physical for admission?"

[[But not existing Students? Holmes wasnt a new student, he was a GRAD STUDENT. So this is a false argument. This will also get colleges sued out of existance when they deny admission based on a phoney evaluation. What level of supposed mental deficiency is the bar to deny admission? More exactly, WHO will determine that, especially in light of the false argument being replayed that the exam is about "college entry" when its not, its an under cover sneak attack on gun rights and is intended to deny a NICs check, which BTW, already exists. so whats the point of this phoney exam procedure?]]

"Since the onset of mental illness typically occurs between the ages of 17 - 26"

[[ANOTHER fraudulent premise, presented with no proof. Sociopathy/psychopathy are diagnosed with respect to being 15 years of age, and I can cite a source for that claim, OP can not prove anything, just offer opinion (Sociopath - appendix not as any particular source from authority but its a LOT more than OP provides) . OP is inventing a connection with some non existant group of mental illnesses, attempting to project them on others he doesnt know, pretending to be an expert when he isnt (what background in psych does OP have? NONE) and is making a shallow argument of taking Holmes age group and inventing some connection with a general set of mental illnesses, IOW, hes LYING]]

"an early diagnosis may prevent"

[[theres that deceitful "may" thing again, notice the pattern of OP repeating ideas and phrases. thats a slick psychological game to program the reader to accept his baseless claims. May also means "may not"]]

" the student from living with an untreated mental illness"

[[thats the ONLY credible thing OP has written, but its shallow opinion, its clear op has no psych credentials and any fool can post an opinion]]

" and certainly will flag the student through NICS preventing them from purchasing firearms."

[[THAT is a bald faced lie. Here, from an AUTHORITATIVE SOURCE is the definition of "mental illness" in CONTEXT of a NICS check, not a fabricated context as OP presents - ( Link Removed ) and a generic, inaccurate "test at a college" DOES NOT QUALIFY.]]

" Also since most colleges do have an on campus clinic or nurses station, students diagnosed with early onset mental health issues could be monitored for medication compliance."

[[More false over-generalizations with another use of "might". What colleges do or do not have is red-herring (an evasive attempt to go off topic), the topic is RKBA.]]

Your thoughts?
[["shall not be infringed" requires no thought. Evasion, deceit and traitorous acts against the Constitution DO take thought..]]

PS CC permits are un Constitutional too. Is there some part of the command "shall not be infringed" that is unclear?
 
Such laws are already in place, thats the scam behind this. Those laws did not apply in this instance, so whats the point in discussing it? The point is to INVENT a crisis and attempt to use Government, which was commanded Constitutionally to not infringe, to make more un Constitutional gun laws.
 
Since at least the last three out of four mass murders were committed by college students, maybe it might be prudent to require new students to have a psychological evaluation alongside of their physical for admission?

Since the onset of mental illness typically occurs between the ages of 17 - 26 an early diagnosis may prevent the student from living with an untreated mental illness and certainly will flag the student through NICS preventing them from purchasing firearms.

Also since most colleges do have an on campus clinic or nurses station, students diagnosed with early onset mental health issues could be monitored for medication compliance.

Your thoughts?

Raise the legal age for buying/owning a gun to 25.

By then the schizophrenia should have come, if it is coming.

Then the kids under 25 will have to go back to building bombs or using gasoline.
 
Simple solution is that the people in this country need to take their collective heads out of their azzes. Start taking responsibility for their lives. For their own decisions. Their own security. It's just incredulous to me that so many people are willing to put their fate in the hands of the crooks and freeloaders that we all call "The Government".

I am surprised that nobody in the theatre in Aurora Colo had the balls to get up and check the exit door after the mad joker went out it, with his fake phone call.

Tells me nobody had a bad feeling about it unfortunately.

None of their guardian angels was on duty that day, except the few that were able to hide and sneak out.

From now on, you can bet that anyone going out an exit door at a theatre is going to be carefully monitored and followed.
 
The obvious answer is to put a sign on the door saying no college students allowed in the theatre.

With metal detectors.

Neighborhoods with metal detectors at their movie theatres have a lower incidence of gun and knife violence. Zero.
 

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