the main reasons I ALWAYS CC

mmckee1952

mmckee1952

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One of the main reasons I ALWAYS CC is a friend of mine which I’ve known for many years, was just going to the corner store for some beer and just as he was leaving, a guy who was in the back, after he had just robbed the store and was just waiting for it to empty out, came running out right after my friend did and for no reason at all shot him in the back, thank God he lived. But ever since then I will never go out without my CC gun. You never really know when or if something might happen, like they say, “it’s better to have a gun and not need it, than need a gun and not have it”.

P.S. Whenever I go over to Norfolk and especially Portsmouth I also carry two back up mags also.
 
Going to have to agree with NavyLCDR as well as wonder how any gun, concealed or open carried would have made a difference? If the BG just ran out and shot him in the back, not thinking a weapon would have made any difference, no matter how it was carried.
 
It might not have made a difference in his friends situation but it definitely highlights how dangerous it can be. You never know when or where you may find yourself in a bad situation


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A concealed handgun would of made no difference in that situation. Neither would boxers instead of briefs. Or black stocks instead of white socks. It's a scary situation.

Situational awareness would be the only way out, and it seems it was nearly impossible to be aware of what happened when it happens that fast.

Open carry could of possibly changed the situation by causing the criminal to hesitate or not even attempt...hard to say, the dickwad shot someone in the back after all for no reason...at least for me, the chance of open carrying stopping the criminal is worth it than changing nothing in the situation by concealing whatever weapon.
 
Guy’s I think you didn’t get the moral of the story, that’s OK I’ll spell it out for you. The main fact was, it was a defining moment both for him and me. It just gives a person a moment to think, should I or shouldn’t I CC. It might not be usable in certain situations, but “it’s better to have a gun and not need it, than need a gun and not have it”. Yes in his situation it wouldn’t have done him any good, but if he had CC and had better situational awareness it might have turned out better.
 
mmckee1952 said:
Guy’s I think you didn’t get the moral of the story, that’s OK I’ll spell it out for you. The main fact was, it was a defining moment both for him and me. It just gives a person a moment to think, should I or shouldn’t I CC. It might not be usable in certain situations, but “it’s better to have a gun and not need it, than need a gun and not have it”. Yes in his situation it wouldn’t have done him any good, but if he had CC and had better situational awareness it might have turned out better.
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You didn't need to spell it out...but now that you did...I still wouldn't change anything in my reply.
 
We can "what if" all day long but if your buddy had a firearm he would have had options that were not available. That is a given. Whether he would have chosen to employ the firearm is a question that nobody can answer. The fact remains that in this type of a situation you are four times more likely to be injured or killed if you do nothing than if you respond with a gun. Gun-Facts v. 6.1
 
mmckee1952 said:
Guy’s I think you didn’t get the moral of the story, that’s OK I’ll spell it out for you. The main fact was, it was a defining moment both for him and me. It just gives a person a moment to think, should I or shouldn’t I CC. It might not be usable in certain situations, but “it’s better to have a gun and not need it, than need a gun and not have it”. Yes in his situation it wouldn’t have done him any good, but if he had CC and had better situational awareness it might have turned out better.
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It's weird to me that anyone would actually have to stop and think about that one
 
In this case I don't think it was the presence (or lack thereof) of a gun that made a difference. Was this friend of yours paying attention to his surroundings? I have a hard time believing someone would have been able to sneak up on him like that if he had been paying attention to his surroundings.

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Something smells fishy!!!
Was the clerk acting strange? After all, the perp just robbed him and was waiting in the back. How can someone act naturally after being robbed and the BG is still in the store?
Why would a BG shoot someone walking away if they were unprovoked? I know there are evil people in this world but if this guy was that evil, why not shoot the clerk too?
 
Cowbilly32 said:
Was the clerk acting strange? After all, the perp just robbed him and was waiting in the back. How can someone act naturally after being robbed and the BG is still in the store?
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You'd be amazed what you can do when your life depends on it.

the rest of Y'all need to be nice to McKee after all it's a rare event that he posts his own thoughts instead of plagiarizing some article form a gun blog.
 
Cowbilly32 said:
Something smells fishy!!!
Was the clerk acting strange? After all, the perp just robbed him and was waiting in the back. How can someone act naturally after being robbed and the BG is still in the store?
Why would a BG shoot someone walking away if they were unprovoked? I know there are evil people in this world but if this guy was that evil, why not shoot the clerk too?
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Can’t answer that one, it’s likely that my friend had his head up his *ss and wasn’t really being as aware as he should have been. As for the perp, we’ll never know why he did what he did, he may have got spooked running towards the door and didn’t see my friend and just shot him for no reason at all than to just get him out of the way and get out of there, we’ll never know. All I know is he’s been a whole lot more aware of his surroundings since then.
 
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Think about this; in most stores the checkout is at the front of the store by the doors. The BG after completing his robbery goes to the back of the store to what, get a pop and get trapped by more customers coming into the store. The cleak has seen him for sure and doesn't get shot. Just how aware was everyone on that day when an innocent got shot in the back.
It is very unfortunate that this individual was shot for no good reason and can only learn from his past actions.
I can't see using a single situation as a deciding factor to CC because of the responsiblity that comes with such a decision. Having a weapon and being able to use a weapon for its intended purpose is two completely different concepts. Brandishing a firearm and not being able to pull the trigger has caused people to die who otherwise would be with us today. If you can carry, if in doubt you need to decide if you can.
 
dogshawred said:
I can't see using a single situation as a deciding factor to CC because of the responsiblity that comes with such a decision.
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I can see using a single critera, think of it as a flow chart

Is a permit required to carry a gun here?

If "yes" get one

If "no" carry one

Assuming a permit is required, do you have a permit?

If "no" get one

if "yes" carry


see how easy that is?
 
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