The Gun "Went Off"

[Deserteagle]

I love how they talk about the gun like it has a mind of its own. It just "went off".


A Northside Independent School District police officer's gun accidentally discharged at a middle school this morning.

Dough Schramm, a 16-year NISD Police Department veteran, was alone in his Jordan Middle School office with the door closed when the weapon went off, district spokesman Pascual Gonzalez said.

Schramm immediately told the NISD police chief and the school's principal. Preliminary investigation found the bullet never left the office.

Schramm, 39, was placed on paid administrative leave as NISD police continue to investigate. He has been at the middle school five years.

If Schramm is found to have violated a policy on when guns may be unholstered, he could face consequences ranging from a verbal reprimand to termination, Gonzalez said.

“This is certainly a very serious incident and it's something that our Police Department is taking very seriously,” Gonzalez said.

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Read more: NISD police officer's gun goes off on campus - San Antonio Express-News

 

[stepside454]

I don't see how any modern duty gun could just "go off"". Had a situation in MO last year, a school security gaird claimed it just went off while cleaning it . There are so many problems with his story, I don't know where to even start.

 

[eagleeyes]

i just recently learned how to clean a gun for the first time and i just don't see how it could go off whilst doing so
before you begin to clean the gun the first thing is to unload it mag and chambered bullet how the hell can it just go off while cleaning it???

 

[kelcarry]

No one is responsible in this country for anything they do. It is always your upbringing, your ailment, your alphabet disease or psychological problem, the drug you took, the stuck gas pedal, and of course, the magic gun with a brain that just felt like shooting.The only person responsible for anything in this country is George Bush--just ask the moslem slimebucket.

 

[The_Outlaw]

This 'Cop' needs to be terminated....Plain and simple.
He easily could have killed an innocent bystander.
Friggin moron.
SMFH

 

[localgirl]

i just recently learned how to clean a gun for the first time and i just don't see how it could go off whilst doing so
before you begin to clean the gun the first thing is to unload it mag and chambered bullet how the hell can it just go off while cleaning it???

It can't, eagle. It's a term used for three circumstances: 1. someone mishandled the gun while it was still loaded and they were preparing to clean it; 2. someone was playing with their gun and "cleaning" sounds better than "screwing around"; or 3. someone shot someone else or themselves, and, especially in cases of suicide, people think "cleaning accident" sits better with the survivors.

 

[BC1]

Sometimes I think first the person "went off" and then the gun followed. All these years and I ain't ever seen one jump up and fire.

 

[Deserteagle]

Just goes to show how ignorant the media is and how ignorant the antis are. Reporting like this where they personify a gun and make it seem like the gun chose to shoot itself only furthers the liberal agenda of making guns seem like much more than an inanimate object that they are. The liberals make people scared of guns by doing things like this and denying responsibility of the person and placing it on the "evil" gun.

 

[Rayb]

I tried to convince my wife that my wallet went off by itself and bought that last gun without me, that didn't work either.....

 

[dmont]

I tried to convince my wife that my wallet went off by itself and bought that last gun without me, that didn't work either.....

LOL. I'll attest to that if you'll do the same for me.

 

[BC1]

I tried to convince my wife that my wallet went off by itself and bought that last gun without me, that didn't work either.....

I tried to convince my gun that my wife went off by herself but that didn't work either. She came home.

 

[Firefighterchen]

Accidents are very rare, negligence is more common. No one here was there, so no one here can say whether or not the firearm failed or he was being negligent. A firearm is a man made machine, we are not perfect, we do not make perfect machines, they can fail.

It would be nice, if the media portrayed the firearm with respect, and stated the firearm failed and a round was discharged unintentionally. Until the investigation (if there is one, but that's a different problem) comes out, who knows what happened.

It would be nice if they stated where the bullet went. Ie: if it struck just below his chair, where he was sitting, and his holstered firearm was directly above the hole, maybe it was a mechanical failure. Or, if the hole was 5 feet away on his non weapon side, it was most likely in his hand.

It would be nice to know if the firearm cycled properly. If the firearm was in the holster, there is a good chance of a cycling failure there too.

 

[Deanimator]

In most instances where a cop's (or MP's) gun "just goes off", he was ACTUALLY "just playing quick draw".

It happened with a security guard at the NASA contractor where I was FSO in the '90s. Shot a hole in the first floor lady's room door. One of the programmers drew a chalk body outline on the door the next day.

 

[localgirl]

In most instances where a cop's (or MP's) gun "just goes off", he was ACTUALLY "just playing quick draw".

It happened with a security guard at the NASA contractor where I was FSO in the '90s. Shot a hole in the first floor lady's room door. One of the programmers drew a chalk body outline on the door the next day.

Oh you know he was aiming at it and making little "pkew pkew" sounds with his mouth.

BTW, creepy avatar D.

 

[-06]

That is your story and you are sticking to it. If it works please let us know. Several here have similiar problems---LOL

 

[Deanimator]

BTW, creepy avatar D.

I'm a lot like Anton Chigurh... minus his "touchy feely", sensitive side...

 

[localgirl]

I'm a lot like Anton Chigurh... minus his "touchy feely", sensitive side...

Once again it's time for the stunned emoticon: 0_o

 

[nofrets1]

This is all too often spoken about when the anti-gunners get together. A gun can't just go off any more than my car can just start and leave without me. The truth of the matter is that someone was doing something they shouldn't have been doing! Fire the idiot. I'm glad I don't have a child in that school!

 

[jg1967]

So was there ever any official conclusion of the investigation into the incident?

 

[JohnD13]

All these guns that have learned to fire themselves! Damn, I'm happy mine are all still ignorant.