The .38 Special... underrated?

gunnerbob

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What's the opinion here? I love the .38 Special, own three of them in different makes & models. Yes, I trust my life & the lives of my family to it.

How did the .38 Special get SUCH a bad rap? Was it Dirty Harry?

I've searched other forums and found that many people actually really like the .38 Special... so where'd this stigma come from?
 
I carried the .38 special as an aircrew member and in the SAC Command Post. It was my first 'home defense' in 1961 and, until recently, my only defense gun. Now I have selections of .380, 9mm and .40 S&W. Still love my old S&W Model 10.
 
We have 2. I like both of them. Wife has a Charter 2000 Undercover, and I have an old S&W, early '49 M&P soon to be called "Model 10". This was my first pistol, had it since I was 18.

I have a semi and plan to buy a couple more, I'll never get rid of my 38.
 
From a design standpoint, inferior due to the revolver being IMHO tactically deficient for personal defense carry. From a ballistic standpoint, all standard handgun ammo is ballistically deficient anyway. The .38 is no better or worse than the 9mm, 40, 45, and others. The shooters ability to deliver precision fight-stopping hits is paramount.
 
I also favor the 38 special, however with all the 9mm bashers out there you can't expect the 38 to favor any better. I strongly prefer both rounds and trust them with my life. You just gotta snicker softly with your light, low recoil gun while everyone else runs around with their snappy little .40s&w or the .45. I like 45 also Just not in a carry round
 
What's the opinion here? I love the .38 Special, own three of them in different makes & models. Yes, I trust my life & the lives of my family to it.
How did the .38 Special get SUCH a bad rap? Was it Dirty Harry?
I've searched other forums and found that many people actually really like the .38 Special... so where'd this stigma come from?

I also like the .38 special. I think it's a great cartridge, especially in +P.
They shoot 'very nicely' through my Colt King Cobra with little recoil!
I am 'seriously considering' the Ruger LCR as my next handgun purchase.
 
Millions of similarly ignorant people trust their lives to .22's and .25's, too. that does not make those calibers decent manstoppers, just like the .38 isn't, either. What happens, 80% of the time, is the attacker flees at just the sight of the gun, so the effectiveness of it or skill of defender, is irrelevant. Half of the remaining 20% of the time, when you FIRE (EVEN IF YOU MISS) the attacker flees THEN, regardless of caliber, gun, or skill level, too. So the ease of having a little .25 or .22, over the clunk of a .38 in your pocket, makes a lot of sense, but really, now, a 5" long, 9 oz Keltec 380 is VERY easy to always have in a front pants pocket, and it hits just as "hard" as a .38 snub, using typical ammo in both. the locked breech 380 can be HANDLOADED to hit HARDER than the .38 snub, as provable on animals, if you really want to, altho I'd not favore the too light Kt 380 for such loads. I've used them in the 18 oz Star Pony, tho, and it and they worked just fine on animals and in my front pants pocket holster.

I first hot-loaded the Pony in 1975, using a dead-soft lead cast hp bullet, dropped by the (no longer available) 80 gr swc Lee mold, with a hollow nose added in a lathe. Driven to 1200+ fps, it worked nicely indeed. I did not (and do not) care that if fouled the bore badly in 7 shots. By then, I'd either be dead or have won the battle. There's no need to practice with such rds, just with similar recoiling loads, and a very few of the duty rds to assure reliablity.
 
To each their own but there is nothing wrong with the 38. It is NOT feeble or worthless. Mant cops carry one as a BUG. Some even carry a 22 as a BUG. Count me as one of the 'millions' of 'ignorant' people who believe that ANY gun with you is better than the one you left at home. Many of us carry what we have because we cant afford to buy another gun. One other thing, I DO NOT PRACTICE ON ANIMALS. IF I shoot a animal it is for varmint control reasons or hunting and obeying ALL applicable laws, NOT as experiments to see what works the best. No offence intended.
 
Hmm, .38 Special not a decent manstopper. Well, I must be ignorant then. Haha... y'know, I hear it often that the .38 Special, .380acp, and 9mm are not good defensive rounds. Yet, rounds just above them in size, velocity, etc are perfectly okay... like the .357, .40 S&W, 10mm, etc. Not many of us have ever been shot, me included... but I've seen enough people being shot, and the effects of such calibers and I'd say they are all acceptable for personal defense rounds.

Hell, if I was(b/c I train often as such) able to put 2-3 .32acp rounds into someone's chest at 2-3 yards... that person will not die immediately, but they will cease their attack. For at least long enough for me to put another 2-3 rounds into them. Now, this situation leans even more in my favor as the caliber increases... say to 9mm or .38 Special. Remember, the only one-shot stop is a very well placed round to the base of the brain... in effect disconnecting the brain from the body. If it isn't this exact shot placement, you need to throw that one-stop shot stuff out the window. This is simply a fact.

Again, I'd rather carry a .38 Special or 9mm that of which I train in stressed conditions very often... than to carry a .45acp or .357 that I have very little training with.
 
It is not what you carry, but can you hit what you are shooting at with your carry weapon? 25+ years as a paramedic and first hand experience with gun shot wounds tell me I do not want to be hit with anything, dead with a 22 is still dead. Personal preference is more stoping power (one half mass times velocity squared) but carry something you will carry with you every day.
 
The 22 that you can consistantly hit what you are shooting at is FAR more important that the 9 millimeter or 44 mag that you cant handle. IF all that mattered was bigger and more powerful, we should all carry 500 Smith's. As Nightmare said, dead with a 22 is still dead.
 
2 of my friends use .38 when pig hunting. It gets the job done, and thats just usin regular ball rounds. If and old tried and true revolver can put down a pissed off wild pig, well then yeah I would say its a stopper. But once again its all about bullet placement. And besides with a revolver, if it goes click and not bang you just pull the trigger again and a new round moves into place (if its a double action anyway). That doesn't happen with autos, you have to rack the slide which takes a second or two you may not have.
 
Although most my revolvers I shoot are 357's, I typically shoot them with 38 Specials. I wife uses 38+P HP for defense.

My backup is a 38+P for defense and hunting.

I agree with those on this forum who have mentioned it does not matter what as long as you carry and practice what you carry, hitting with a 22 is better than missing with a 44.

As for the stigma, I see gun shops, trade magazines, firearms business vendors all guilty of continually pushing the envelope for more, bigger, better, faster...

Revolvers aren't as fast as Semi-autos sell 1911s
1911's only holds 7 - Sell 17 round 9mm Glock 17s
9mm doesn't have the muzzle energy sell 10mm
10mm is not as controllable sell 40 S&W
 
The 38 spl lives and lives and lives. It'll be around long after most of us are gone. Still a fine weapon with the right loads and in the right hands. I sometimes carry one but not as often as years ago. Also a great plinking round. Jim
 
I got this thread going over on AR15.com and got about the same response. Some people say it's crap, while others say it's as good as any other round... given you practice.

It's funny how every round out there will have people who think it's crap for killing people. Except maybe the .50BMG, lol.
 

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