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What about his medical records? Is he that stand up of a guy? He refused to supply them at every turn, even though he would be the most powerful man in the country, with a ditsy, inexperienced running mate (never mind that he is in his 70's). I was not agreeing with the actions of either. I was simply accentuating the fact that both major political parties, both Democrat and Republican, choose questionable candidates. Out of all the people in the US, these are the best you could come up with? Please. Maybe it is because of the immigration influx, or possibly it is because most of our country/government is becoming foreign owned (with the billions they require to run, where do you think the money is coming from). Maybe they choose those they can control, it is an interesting concept. Personally, I did not care for either. Only time will tell how it will turn out.

The main difference with McCain is he was born of U.S. parents and his father was serving in the military stationed in Panama. Now I ask you are the thousands of children born to American service men and women serving their country overseas natural born citizens? By our law, yes and just as it should be. Now concerning Obama, the SCOTUS threw out the most recent case concerning his birth certificate stating it had been provided. If there was any chance this was a fraudulent certificate the Republicans would be all over it. I think it's about time we give this a rest and prepare for an unknown future.
 

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Ronwill is absolutely correct. John McCain was born of American parents in a military hospital on a US military base in Panama, which at the time was a US possession. He could not have been any more a natural citizen if he had been born in Washington DC.

The Youtube video made reference to a 2007 form and 2008 stamps and signatures. I am sure Obama was born well before 2007. I want to know how someone can be born Barry Dunham in Detroit, MI, then get adopted by some guy in Indonesia, and given the last name of Soetelo, at a time when Indonesia did not allow dual citizenships. That says to me that Master Dunham's American citizenship was forfeited for the Indonesian citizenship. Even at that, how does Barry Dunhjam get to be listed on a certificate of live birth as Barack Hussein Obama II? JDLR
 

mtndwell

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I was not agreeing with the actions of either.... AND Personally, I did not care for either. Only time will tell how it will turn out.
does not make sense to you. I am not taking sides, either Obama or McCain. Truth be told, if there was any proof, Obama wouldn't be the president elect (and shouldn't be). If there was, he would still be a senator of the not so great state of Ill. The point I was trying to get across was that ALL power politicians (such as those nominated for high office, like President) are corrupted, lie (even those little white ones, such as one's health), cheat (on their wife or taxes, etc), steal (at least from my checkbook), etc. This is regardless of party lines, both Democrats and Republicans. To say one is more of an honorable politician than another, is an oxymoron (emphasis on the moron). There are no honorable politicians, otherwise they wouldn't be in politics. Oh, and because something is on YouTube, it must be true. Maybe I should place a YouTube video, showing Ill has embraced CC. It would be on YouTube, it must be true. :haha: Wish things were that easy (or glad they aren't, when you think of what the antis would do).

Oh, and here is a little info on McCain's FULL disclosure. All recent records were excluded.Check it out:
Is McCain concealing medical records? - Ari Melber - Politico.com Like I said, I am not pro either candidate, just a gun toting, constitution supporting, natural born middle class American.
 

Sheldon

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What part of does not make sense to you. I am not taking sides, either Obama or McCain. Truth be told, if there was any proof, Obama wouldn't be the president elect (and shouldn't be). If there was, he would still be a senator of the not so great state of Ill. The point I was trying to get across was that ALL power politicians (such as those nominated for high office, like President) are corrupted, lie (even those little white ones, such as one's health), cheat (on their wife or taxes, etc), steal (at least from my checkbook), etc. This is regardless of party lines, both Democrats and Republicans. To say one is more of an honorable politician than another, is an oxymoron (emphasis on the moron). There are no honorable politicians, otherwise they wouldn't be in politics. Oh, and because something is on YouTube, it must be true. Maybe I should place a YouTube video, showing Ill has embraced CC. It would be on YouTube, it must be true. :haha: Wish things were that easy (or glad they aren't, when you think of what the antis would do).

Oh, and here is a little info on McCain's FULL disclosure. All recent records were excluded.Check it out:
Is McCain concealing medical records? - Ari Melber - Politico.com Like I said, I am not pro either candidate, just a gun toting, constitution supporting, natural born middle class American.

OK sure just like there was no evidence that Teddy killed... and he was thrown in jail.... Not. You need to realize that there are separate justice systems dependent upon numerous factors.:jester:
 

mtndwell

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I agree.

OK sure just like there was no evidence that Teddy killed... and he was thrown in jail.... Not. You need to realize that there are separate justice systems dependent upon numerous factors.:jester:

I don't disagree. The greater the power, the easier to hide corruption, while sidestepping the law. Could we do that and get away with it? :nono: All politicians abuse their power and influence. Unfortunately, when cut out one piece of the cancer, another grows in its place. It would be a fresh sight, to see America get back to embracing the Constitution, not to the politicians who will be our ultimate demise.They should line them all up, them and the lawyers that protect them, and have a good old Turkey hunt.:butcher:
 
" mtndwell" makes a good point about medical records. I don't recall hearing anything about obama providing any medical records. Maybe his citizenship info is tied up in there somewhere. :confused:



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Bohemian

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We The People (B.H.O.) Citizenship Challenge - National Press Club, DC December 8th, 2008:

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Another Obama Citizenship Case Added to Supreme Court Docket:

Justice Scalia adds another Obama citizenship case to the Supreme Court's Dec. 12 docket...
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Bohemian

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The main difference with McCain is he was born of U.S. parents and his father was serving in the military stationed in Panama. Now I ask you are the thousands of children born to American service men and women serving their country overseas natural born citizens? By our law, yes and just as it should be. Now concerning Obama, the SCOTUS threw out the most recent case concerning his birth certificate stating it had been provided. If there was any chance this was a fraudulent certificate the Republicans would be all over it. I think it's about time we give this a rest and prepare for an unknown future.

LET ME BE PERFECTLY CLEAR ON THIS; THE SCOTUS HAS NOT THROWN OUT ANY CASE NOR HAS ANY COURT ON THE GROUNDS THAT OBAMA HAS PROVIDED HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE; IN FACT HE HAS REFUSED TO DO SO...
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This is the biggest fraud in U.S. history...
 

Bohemian

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12/12/08 PRESS RELEASE: U. S. SUPREME COURT REQUESTED TO ISSUE AN INJUNCTION TO STAY ELECTORAL VOTES ON DECEMBER 15, 2008 UNTIL OBAMA PROVES HE IS QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT AS “CONSTITUTION CRISIS” IS COMING and ASKS “OBAMA” TO WITHDRAW HIS NAME FOR PRESIDENT

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Bohemian

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The United States Constitution Article II, Section 1 includes these words:
“No person except a natural born citizen, or a
citizen of the United States, at the time of the
adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to
the office of President; neither shall any person be
eligible to that office who shall not have attained to
the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years
a resident within the United States.”


Electors are sworn to uphold it with their vote on December 15th in
the Electoral College. But they must first know for sure that the candidates meet the Constitutional requirements for the office of President beginning with being a natural born citizen.
That’s what Philip J. Berg has asked the United States Supreme Court to verify.
The Supreme Court has asked for a response from Senator Barack Obama along with the Democratic National Committee and Federal Elections Commission.
And they have until December 1st to respond. Other cases have been filed asking for the same thing.
Not extreme. Not fringe. Just Constitutional.
Obama says he’s qualified. But, Berg, multiple legal suits and a growing number of American citizens are saying: “Prove it.” A basic, vital and Constitutional request.
Why won’t Obama answer such a simple and essential request?
Exhibit A: The Grandmother’s tape
Barack Obama’s own grandmother said he was born in Kenya. While politicians are known for it, grandmothers seldom lie. It’s recorded on tape:
“I was in the delivery room in [Mombosa,] Kenya, when he was born
Aug. 4, 1961.” – Sarah Obama, Obama’s paternal grandmother
Exhibit B: No Original Birth Certificate
Experts have called the Certification of Live Birth posted online a forgery.
Berg reported “It’s clearly been altered,” which invalidates it, according to
the document itself. Add to this the Hawaiian law at the time which allowed people to register for this non-hospital short form certificate (without a doctor’s signature) up to one year from the date of the child’s birth.
Exhibit C: Indonesian citizenship
Only Indonesian citizens could attend Indonesian schools at the time Barack Obama attended the Indonesian school where he was registered as Barry Soetoro. His citizenship was listed as Indonesian, his religion as Islam, and his father as Lolo Soetoro, M.A. There was also no dual citizenship at the time. If he was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather, he would have forfeited any U.S. citizenship he may have had, just as when a child is adopted in America, he or she becomes an American.
Exhibit D: U.S. Law
In addition, according to U.S. law pertaining to births abroad,
from “Dec. 24, 1952, to Nov.13, 1986,” in order to register the child’s birth
as a U.S. natural-born citizen at the time of Obama’s birth, he or she must be: 1. Born to two U.S. citizen parents; OR 2. If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of the birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, at least five of which must be after the age of 14.
Since Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 at the time of his birth, she failed to meet the legal requirements of U.S. residency for at least five years after the age of 14.
Either the Constitution matters or it doesn’t.
If we are willing to ignore the constitutional requirements for the highest office in our land, what else are we willing to forgo? That part about free speech? Freedom of the press? Freedom of religion?
1. Sign the form download able from the website and send it in or sign the petition on the website
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2. Call your Congressional Representative at: 202-224-3121. Ask them to
verify that the Constitutional requirements have been met and request
them to conduct Congressional hearings immediately.
3. Pray for all of the hidden things to come to light and call on the media to
report this Constitutional crisis.
4. Donate to help defend our Constitution.
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YouTube - Nov. 24 Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Smoking Gun Revealed by Dr. Ron Polarik

Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya


YouTube - Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya
 
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Sheldon

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OMG!! they are and I quote here "making his birth place a tourist attraction" in Kenya!!! Isn't that sufficient evidence to place serious doubt on his citizenship???
 

toreskha

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I would love it if Obama were not president. I spent thousands of dollars and hours trying to make John McCain president. Obama is anathema to me.

However, Berg appears to have brought this case with a lot of accusations, but without providing much hard supporting evidence. Is there a Kenyan birth certificate out there somewhere? Immigration records showing that his parents left the country before he was born, and he returned afterwards? Something like that would be awfully helpful.

Courts don't generally consider a "suspicion" to be sufficient proof. The Kenyan ambassador's words do not have the force of law. Neither does Obama's grandmother's. Trying to make a case out of bubblegum and twigs tends to discredit future cases that are better researched.
 

Bohemian

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I would love it if Obama were not president. I spent thousands of dollars and hours trying to make John McCain president. Obama is anathema to me.

However, Berg appears to have brought this case with a lot of accusations, but without providing much hard supporting evidence. Is there a Kenyan birth certificate out there somewhere? Immigration records showing that his parents left the country before he was born, and he returned afterwards? Something like that would be awfully helpful.

Courts don't generally consider a "suspicion" to be sufficient proof. The Kenyan ambassador's words do not have the force of law. Neither does Obama's grandmother's. Trying to make a case out of bubblegum and twigs tends to discredit future cases that are better researched.

Please review my previous posts in this thread; watch the videos, etc., and or go to Link Removed for all the evidence, original court documents and dozens of related cases nationwide that are pending...
There is no shortage of evidence, in fact the evidence that Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen as defined by the U.S. Constitution is overwhelming; the problem is NO COURT has agreed to hear anybody's cases yet...

Reasons cited?
Those individuals bringing the cases forward did not have standing to challenge the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama... or other lame technicality's, anything to keep from there actually being a case where it gets in front of a judge or jury who can see it for what it is...

Did you know that not one single Security of State in the entire country has verified Barrck Obama 's eligibility as required by law?

Same is true for his non-vetting of his U.S. Senate position...

The fact is Barack Obama is a Illegal Alien...

Do you know how the Secretary of State of all the states in the country verified Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility?

They received a letter from Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi stating that Barack Obama was eligible to be President...

The same Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi that recently signed an affidavit stating that a dead person was a valid elector...

All the cases against Obama are solid cases by former U.S. Attorneys, former U.S. Ambassadors, people with lots of things trailing their name like PhD’s; to name a few...

Once we get a court to actually hear a case they will have no choice, but to expose Obama for the fraud we all know he his...

THIS IS THE BIGGEST FRAUD IN U.S. HISTORY, CALL, WRITE, EMAIL, FAX YOUR STATE & FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES, GOVERNOR, ETC., THE PRESIDENT AND THE MEDIA AND ASK THEM TO...

Please Oppose The Electoral College vote Monday 12/15/2008, until Barack Obama has provided proof that he is a natural born U.S. Citizen; as required by the U.S. Constitution; please don't cite or believe the Fact Check web site or the Fight The Smears web site; as their response; because the electronic documents on those sites have been proven by subject matter experts whom have submitted affidavits to several State Supreme Courts and the U.S. Supreme Court that the aforesaid electronic documents are in fact forgery's, electronic creations...

The American People and yourself, a U.S. Born Citizen, and a law abiding citizen; do appeal to their integrity to make this right and prove the entire country, beyond a shadow of a doubt that Barack Obama is in fact a natural born citizen; or request that he must step down. BEFORE THE ELECTORAL VOTE AND INAUGURATION ARE ALLOWED TO PROCEED.
 
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Sheldon

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One more point in support of Bohemian, this is law on the federal level and should be investigated as such, if you or I were to be in this position we would be investigated to the ends of the earth to find out if we were a valid US citizen. This and several private citizens that went to Kenya to attempt to investigate his citizenship prior to the election were not only kicked out of the country but were threatened with prison and death should they return.
 

toreskha

Titles are un-American.
I checked out obamacrimes.com and the only things that could qualify as evidence that I see are statements from a reverend, a bishop and his grandmother saying that he was born in Kenya. None of those have any legal authority, though. The bishop's affidavit seemed to delve heavily into Obama's involvement in Kenyan politics - interesting, but of no relevance whatsoever to establishing his citizenship.

Is there a piece of paper somewhere that says "Kenya Jungle Hospital - Certificate of Birth - Barack Hussein Obama II" (or whatever his name was when he was born)? That's all that is needed to decide this issue. Why not that, rather than all of this beating around the bush and peripheral arguments?

According to Reverend Shuhubia, Kenyan officials said that Obama's birth information was "classified" and "top secret" - which is an awfully convenient way to keep from having to produce any documentation.

If I propose to you that my friend is holding a red ball in one hand, and you ask me to prove it, and I say, "Sorry! My friend said that ball is top secret. Trust me, it's red," then that allows me to put out an accusation and not have to actually back up my claim, while making an excuse that seems to suggest that my friend is hiding something.

These types of poorly constructed conspiracy theory arguments seem to emerge from both sides every time there's an election. 9/11 was an inside job from the Bush Administration, Clinton had 500 people killed, Iraq was any number of situations, the CIA spread crack and/or AIDS to kill black people, etc. There's always "plenty of documentation" to back up whatever it is - "documentation" which is often either misleading, or refers to other "evidence" which is somehow being prevented from reaching the public.

While I'd like to see Obama not be president, it would be inappropriate to lie or put forth unsound arguments to make that happen. Maybe impeachment proceedings would be more successful, at least in terms of gaining credibility.
 
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I've looked over obamacrimes also and tend to class it as a "conspiracy theory" site. Many of the videos are word of mouth from individuals that would like for this to be true. Bohemian please understand that I am NOT an Obama supporter and would be pleasantly surprised if this resulted in his not becoming president. The fact is the SCOTUS threw out a recent case stating that a birth certificate had been presented. When hard evidence is presented on the situation I will gladly jump on the band wagon but everything I've found is no where close to being that. Videos, like statistics, can be manipulated to say anything the author, or director, wants.
 

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OMG!! they are and I quote here "making his birth place a tourist attraction" in Kenya!!! Isn't that sufficient evidence to place serious doubt on his citizenship???

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Sheldon

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When I did jury duty we were instructed to pass a verdict based within a reasonable doubt, not a shadow of but reasonable, that said...
There is evidence way beyond a reasonable doubt here to prove he is not a citizen. In a standard court of law a jury would convict him based upon the evidence that has been presented.
 

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