Star Bucks Boycott.................

BassNut

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Anti-gun groups are attempting to organize a boycott of Starbucks on February 14 of this year. You may or may not know that Starbucks refused to bend to anti-gun hysteria and turn their stores into victim disarmament zones by prohibiting the carrying of defensive arms by law abiding folk.

We as gun owners and armed citizens need to step forward and support business that support us. Please stop by your local Starbucks and pick up a coffee or pastry on Valentines Day. Save your receipt, an effort is being put together to show how our efforts overcame the opposition. Together we can show our resolve, it's an easy way to show how much we value our rights and our sport.
 
As I posted in another forum:

Now, do I pick this, at the Starbucks nearest my work (which is also the one directly across the street from Portland Police central precinct - which often has uniformed officers present - up to and including the police chief,) to be my first open carry in the city of Portland?

If I can get others to commit to go, too, I think so. If we publicize it before-hand (to ensure we don't get a nasty police response,) we'd be fine. (There have been similar OC events in Portland Starbucks before - but there hasn't been a location across the street from central precinct for a previous one.)
 
I love coffee, but was never much on Starbuck's coffee. If this is true, I may have to start liking it just cause.
 
This sounds like a good idea. If shooters all over the country pick up a latte at Starbuck's on the 14th, then maybe mail the receipt with a small thank you note to Starbucks....
 
For the life of me I cannot understand how Starbucks ended up on the "pro side" of the gun/CC debate. I worked for them for 2 years and even though the urban legend (maybe) about them refusing to send coffee to soldiers in Iraq/Afghan may be untrue (have never been sure) I can tell you that the directive employees received vis a vis this controversy from years ago was that as a barista, who gets a free pound of coffee per week, the company encourages its employees to donate their pound of coffee to the troops. In other words Starbuck's "generosity" amounts to having $8 per hour employees somehow donate their $10 bag of coffee and then, I assume pay to have it shipped over to Iraq etal---obviously because the employees are making so much money and the CEO and the company are just in the poor house--wow--what a commitment--try pathetic. I wrote a letter to local paper telling readers that if they come into the store I work in and purchase a pound and offer it to me to send to troops, I would add my free coffee, pound for pound and get it sent. For this I was criticized because I did not get Starbucks approval, as if it is any of their business what I do or what I discuss in the paper that has absolutely nothing to do with the corporation in any way shape or form. When I received an email from the air force base in Iraq with pix of the airmen holding the bags of coffee, then it was OK. They may be generous with their outlook on firearms and CC (cannot figure how this liberal Seattle company ends up on this side of the gun issue), but they sure as heck are not on my list for any applause.
 
As far as I can tell, Starbucks didn't come out as a champion of the second amendment. They just refused to ban guns and post signs to please a very small anti-gun group, stating that they'd continue to obey the laws and to serve customers who obeyed the laws. They didn't get as big as they are by being stupid; they know gun owners have money to spend on coffee.
 
As far as I can tell, Starbucks didn't come out as a champion of the second amendment. They just refused to ban guns and post signs to please a very small anti-gun group, stating that they'd continue to obey the laws and to serve customers who obeyed the laws. They didn't get as big as they are by being stupid; they know gun owners have money to spend on coffee.

It is called "hypocrisy"
 
For the life of me I cannot understand how Starbucks ended up on the "pro side" of the gun/CC debate. I worked for them for 2 years and even though the urban legend (maybe) about them refusing to send coffee to soldiers in Iraq/Afghan may be untrue (have never been sure) I can tell you that the directive employees received vis a vis this controversy from years ago was that as a barista, who gets a free pound of coffee per week, the company encourages its employees to donate their pound of coffee to the troops. In other words Starbuck's "generosity" amounts to having $8 per hour employees somehow donate their $10 bag of coffee and then, I assume pay to have it shipped over to Iraq etal---obviously because the employees are making so much money and the CEO and the company are just in the poor house--wow--what a commitment--try pathetic. I wrote a letter to local paper telling readers that if they come into the store I work in and purchase a pound and offer it to me to send to troops, I would add my free coffee, pound for pound and get it sent. For this I was criticized because I did not get Starbucks approval, as if it is any of their business what I do or what I discuss in the paper that has absolutely nothing to do with the corporation in any way shape or form. When I received an email from the air force base in Iraq with pix of the airmen holding the bags of coffee, then it was OK. They may be generous with their outlook on firearms and CC (cannot figure how this liberal Seattle company ends up on this side of the gun issue), but they sure as heck are not on my list for any applause.

Thank you for taking the time to contact Starbucks regarding coffee donations to those serving in our armed forces.

Starbucks has the deepest respect and admiration for U.S. military personnel. We are extremely grateful to the men and women who serve stateside or overseas. We sincerely appreciate that they are willing to risk their lives to protect Americans and our values of freedom and democracy. While Starbucks as a company cannot directly donate to military personnel, many of our partners (employees) show their support by donating coffee.

Recently, there was an e-mail circulating the internet that contained misinformation about Starbucks and our support of the military. Starbucks was able to locate the author who turned out to be a Marine Sergeant. He was very grateful that we contacted him and apologized for any misunderstanding, as he did not intend to spread the rumor. He subsequently sent an e-mail to his original distribution list correcting his mistake, which I've included at the end of this e-mail.

I would like to take this opportunity to clarify Starbucks policy regarding charitable contributions. We are able to donate to nonprofit organizations that are designated as public charities under Section 501(c) (3) of the IRS Code, including public libraries and schools. The U.S. military or individual military personnel do not qualify as a public charity.

However, on an individual level, many Starbucks partners have collected and shipped numerous pounds of Starbucks coffee overseas. Starbucks partners receive one pound of free coffee each week as an employee benefit (known as "partner mark-out"). Many of our partners have elected to send their weekly mark-out of coffee to members of the military or military families, and related organizations.

As an example of this generosity, our partners in our Atascadero, California store sent their weekly mark out coffee to troops in Afghanistan so they are able to enjoy a little piece of home. Our customer relations department in Seattle donated hundreds of pounds of coffee to the sailors in the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier group. These are just a few examples of our partners supporting the troops. We recognize and appreciate the very personal connection that customers have with us and how they might miss their Starbucks Experience while overseas.

Thank you again for writing and ask you to accept our deepest appreciation to servicemen and women and hope you remain a valued Starbucks customer. If you have any additional feedback or would like to discuss this further, please feel free to contact us at (800) 235-2883 or email us at [email protected].

Sincerely,
David Campbell
Customer Relations
Starbucks Coffee Company

Text of Sgt. Wright's Email:

Dear Readers,

Almost 5 months ago I sent an e-mail to you my faithful friends. I did a wrong thing that needs to be cleared up. I heard by word of mouth about how Starbucks said they didn't support the war and all. I was having enough of that kind of talk and didn't do my research properly like I should have. This is not true. Starbucks supports men and women in uniform. They have personally contacted me and I have been sent many copies of their company's policy on this issue. So I apologize for this quick and wrong letter that I sent out to you.

Now I ask that you all pass this email around to everyone you passed the last one to. Thank you very much for understanding about this.

Howard C. Wright
Sgt USMC
1st Force Recon Co
1st Plt PLT RTO
 
As I posted in another forum:

Now, do I pick this, at the Starbucks nearest my work (which is also the one directly across the street from Portland Police central precinct - which often has uniformed officers present - up to and including the police chief,) to be my first open carry in the city of Portland?

I would not choose to do that as it is illegal to open carry in Portland, OR without a CHL, and would likely cause you no end of trouble even with one. JMHO
 
I would not choose to do that as it is illegal to open carry in Portland, OR without a CHL, and would likely cause you no end of trouble even with one. JMHO

To be clear, this has happened before. There have been pro-open-carry "rallies" at Portland Starbucks in the past. The worst that happened was a police officer came in, visually (from a distance, without ever asking the individual to remove the weapon from its holster,) verified that there was no magazine in the well, then left. (I believe he stayed nearby, to tell those who complained that it was perfectly legal.)

Portland can bar loaded open carry. It cannot bar unloaded open carry. And, of course, CHL holders are exempt from local prohibitions on even that. But, as you mention, it would be more of a hassle to carry loaded - since then the officer would likely ask to see your CHL.

I would recommend that even if you are a CHL holder, carry with no magazine in the well unless you want to invite the police to see your CHL. (Portland also claims that you cannot even have any rounds in a magazine on your person - but I have seen conflicting claims as to their authority to go that far.)

(As usual, see a lawyer, I am not one, yadda yadda...)
 
I would not choose to do that as it is illegal to open carry in Portland, OR without a CHL, and would likely cause you no end of trouble even with one. JMHO

Respectfully, why should I be concerned about a police officer's likely illegal reaction to a perfectly legal behavior that I choose to engage in? Why should I surrender to criminal actions only because the person committing them wears a uniform and a badge?
 
I can assure you that I will be getting my Latte fix at least twice that day. With a pastry. Not sure what that's going to do for my diet, but I'll pause that for a day to show one of my favorite companies just how much they matter to me. I already go to Starbucks a few times a week, admittedly, but I've let all my pro-gun neighbors know about this and Valentines will be a day to remember for Starbucks in Idaho!
 

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