Should CCW permits be restricted to citizens?
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Yes, because we live here, pay our taxes, (Most of us) and it's our Constutional RIGHT! If they want to come here, learn our ways and our language, and take the oath to become a citizen, they can get a CCP after they go through the same stuff we do. I just got mine and I'm proud to have it and be born in this country and be able to legally carry. Honestly, Illegals don't care, just like drug dealers and the like. If they're going to carry illegally, that's just how it's going to be.
Edsworld
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They don't have the right to protect themselves?
Everyone has a right to defend themselves.
I would be open to letting legal residents of the US have one so long as they meet all the requirements that anyone else currently has to meet.
I can think of only a few small reasons to deny someone who is following all the rules something that we consider a basic right.
As a bonus, people who go back home will have a different perspective on the whole matter of gun ownership.
I think we all would appreciate having more voices in support of gun ownership around the world.
I would be open to letting legal residents of the US have one so long as they meet all the requirements that anyone else currently has to meet.
I can think of only a few small reasons to deny someone who is following all the rules something that we consider a basic right.
As a bonus, people who go back home will have a different perspective on the whole matter of gun ownership.
I think we all would appreciate having more voices in support of gun ownership around the world.
BC1
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I personally believe that the second amendment should apply only to American citizens.
This issue goes all the way back to the Dred Scott case in 1857 where Chief Justice Roger B. Taney ruled that any person descended from Africans, whether slave or free, is not a citizen of the United States. The ruling stated that if African Americans were to be granted citizenship then the constitution would apply, allowing them to speak freely, go where they liked unmolested and bear arms. This decision was later overturned. Dred Scott, his wife and daughters were formally freed by Henry Taylor Blow on May 26, 1857, less than three months after the Supreme Court decision by Chief Justice Roger Taney.
The ruling of the court helped catalyze sentiment for Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation and the three constitutional amendments ratified shortly after the Civil War: the Thirteenth, Fourteenth and Fifteenth amendments, abolishing slavery, granting former slaves citizenship, and conferring citizenship to anyone born in the United States.
Surprisingly, NY will issue a CCW permit to a resident alien.
This issue goes all the way back to the Dred Scott case in 1857 where Chief Justice Roger B. Taney ruled that any person descended from Africans, whether slave or free, is not a citizen of the United States. The ruling stated that if African Americans were to be granted citizenship then the constitution would apply, allowing them to speak freely, go where they liked unmolested and bear arms. This decision was later overturned. Dred Scott, his wife and daughters were formally freed by Henry Taylor Blow on May 26, 1857, less than three months after the Supreme Court decision by Chief Justice Roger Taney.
The ruling of the court helped catalyze sentiment for Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation and the three constitutional amendments ratified shortly after the Civil War: the Thirteenth, Fourteenth and Fifteenth amendments, abolishing slavery, granting former slaves citizenship, and conferring citizenship to anyone born in the United States.
Surprisingly, NY will issue a CCW permit to a resident alien.
BC1
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Perhaps Canadians don't trust each other to behave lawfully with guns. According to a 2001 study by the Dutch Ministry of Justice on "Criminal Victimization in Seventeen Industrialized Countries," Canada reported that 3.4% of the population had been the victim of a "contact crime" while in America only 1.9% of the population had been victimized.
I believe that God gave me life. This belief predates the constitution or any law, and as such no man shall legislate away my God-given right to life. Perhaps if those in other countries viewed this most precious gift of life in the same way as I do, they would throw these bums out of office. After all, democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Let no man legislate away what God has given to you; life, liberty and freedom.
Treo
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There isn't enough right in the world to describe this post. Having said that self defense is a human right not an American right. The intent of the founders was clear "No free man shall be debarred the use of arms."
Spot on.
Written by the person who has English as a second language...
Which part is spot on? That the right to bear arms is given by God and applicable to everyone in the world, or that "god don't like Canadians?" :laugh:
I vote that anyone that has done what is required to legally enter and legally remain in this country should be under the protection of the Constitution.
For those that disagree, may I remind you the only REAL citizens of this country are the Native Americans.
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European white man was the alien here at one time.
Legal aliens should have a right to obtain ccw permits. Illegals shouldn't be here in the first place so no rights should be accorded. Sorry, but that's life. They make the choice to break the law to enter then they're on their own.
That's a weak argument at best. That applies to every country in the world due to the transient nature of humans. What make you think the indians were the first and only true residents of this land? Don't necessarily believe the history books for that kind of info, neither the archaeologists. Only God knows for sure. Also, I sure you realize that the name "America" didn't apply to this land at that time so they could hardly be called "Native Americans".
Resident aliens (the LEGAL ONES)? No problem, give them the permits. You gotta establish residency here for a minimum amount of time before you can put in for citizenship.
Illegal aliens are criminals because they broke the country's laws when they sneaked over the border. Last time I checked, that's what the 'illegal' part of the name referred to. The idea of armed criminals is pretty much accepted universally as a 'bad thing', right?
Illegal aliens are criminals because they broke the country's laws when they sneaked over the border. Last time I checked, that's what the 'illegal' part of the name referred to. The idea of armed criminals is pretty much accepted universally as a 'bad thing', right?
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