I went with the family yesterday to Evergreen State Fair in Monroe, WA. We walked by no less than 4 deputy Sheriffs during the course of the day and none of them said anything about or approached me about my concealed firearm. I know, some people will think it was discourteous of me to not tell them about my gun and CPL, after all they just want to go home safe to their families at the end of their shifts.
Sherrif deputies at Evergreen State Fair, Washington State
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Firefighterchen
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Think they would of said anything had you been open carrying? Can we open carry in state fairs here? I need to brush up again on that section.
Kind of interesting you brought this up. I was planning to start a thread on this same subject, only it was to be on me attending the Spokane Interstate Fair in a couple of weeks. Oh well. As far as I'm concerned, not notifying is being courteous, safety minded and legal. Concealed means concealed. Even in 'shall notify' States notification only applies to official contact with police, which of course did not apply in your situation. For those who dont know, Washington is NOT a shall notify State. For those people who feel this urge to inform every cop they meet and inform the cop about the gun they carrying, have at it. While they are trying to get out of the situation(mess) they created I intend to be having a cold one with some natchos. My time is too valuable.
Yes, you can open carry at state fairs. Evergreen State Fairgrounds is posted at the entrance with a "No Weapons" sign. However, since Evergreen State Fairgrounds is part of the Snohomish County Parks and Recreation Department:
Snohomish County : Park Directory : Evergreen Fairgrounds Park
it is illegal to prohibit lawfully carried firearms. See RCW 9.41.290 and RCW 9.41.300.
I did not want to waste my day out with my family to take time to explain the legality of my firearm to anyone at the fair, so I chose to conceal it for 6 hours.
Wow. You just disassociated yourself from about 95% of the members of this forum - those that can't resist sharing their guns and permits with anyone who has a badge and gun, and those that quake in fear at the thought of someone having a cold one (beer) with some nachos just because of the gun in a holster on their belt.
My reading of the RCW is yes you can, the pertinent being section is 9.41.300.
Mosbyranger
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How does walking by a LEO and not telling them about your lawfully concealed piece make you discourteous? If you were doing official business with them it's another matter. I've walked by many a LEO while carrying concealed and never informed them. Unless you have Rosie ODonnell firearm that leaps out of it's place of concealment and slaughters innocents on it's own accord, there should be no problem. Why look for trouble?
MR
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Why is doing "official business with them" a different matter in a state such as Washington with no legal requirement to inform a police officer? Many people on this forum say it is courteous to tell a police officer about your concealed firearm and your permit when they stop you for something such as speeding. So why would it not be equally as courteous to tell them about it when seeing them at the fair? Or equally discourteous not to?
My firearm has equal bearing upon the officer in either case - a stop for speeding or walking by them at the fair - NONE.
It's because of all the threads started by people who post, "I was pulled over today for speeding. I showed the officer my permit and told them about my gun and they did not hassle me about it." and then they get a standing ovation for telling the officer about their gun and the officer gets worshipped for not hassling the person. So, I just thought I would share my experience about law enforcement officers not hassling me about my gun. Why not share it?
Deserteagle
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Im guessing you must be pretty bored for opening up this old argument again.
However, when I am bored I dont mind watching people go at it over these same old topics. It's like the never ending 9mm vs .45, or the infamous open vs concealed carry
The whole point of it is unless you are required by law to notify a cop that you are carrying a gun why tell them? Here in Washington State there is no requirement to tell the cop you have a gun. It could be time consuming and frankly I have other things more important to do and so do the cops. I realize that in some(NOT ALL) States you are required to notify a cop WHEN a traffic stop occurs. But in the situation where there is no official contact AND there is no notification requirement why waste everybodys time? The arguement of 'everyone is safer is crap'. In Navys situation there was 'no harm no foul'. So how was the cops more in danger with Navy not telling them about his gun?
Tripletap
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Sorry LCDR ,Although I do like most of your posts, I think this thread is boarder line .....This is along the same lines as open carry or cc. Folks have the right to do what ever they feel is right for them. If you want to notify it's your business, if not ... it's your business. Move along nothing to see here.....
There are new people joining this forum all the time. To many of them all these subjects are new and informative. I have learned a great deal from Navy and others on this forum that I did not know even though I have carried a gun for more than 30 years. I have also helped a few people here also. I really do not think it is "boarder line trollish" to rehash things when new people are reading the posts. Navy simply pointed out that there is no reason to tell the cops you are carrying. So when this subject comes around again I will comment.
Tripletap
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Ok, mabey I was a bit harsh (sorry LCDR) But I think you are picking on folks that choose to inform LEO'S. I don't necessarily agree with notifying ,but Im not gonna talk crap to people that do. It's what ever you want to do, and more importantly what ever you state requires.....Just my opinion
It's called sarcasm......
Would you mind pointing out to me where I "talked crap" to people that do notify police when not required?
Is that not simply the truth? Don't the "always notify" police supporters claim that they tell a police officer about their gun out of courtesy and because it is somehow believed to make the police officer safer? If they say that they inform the police as a courtesy, does it not follow to reason that not notifying is not being courteous?
Was this not an honest question? And my last sentence was establishing the basis for asking an honest question.
So where is this "crap talk" that you make reference to?
The_Outlaw
~The Dude Abides~
It's funny how good 'concealed' carry seems to work out, the same thing happens to me. =-)
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