Screwed in Texas???

slinginLEAD

slinginLEAD

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Here is my dilema. I live in Texas. Had a CHL in 2000, let it expire. Got a Class A misdemenaor for "Hunting from a vechile" in Nov of 2005. have waited for 5 years to be eligbile to Re-Apply for a new Texas CHL I also got arrested on a BS charge in September of 2007 on a Class B misdemenor, received deferred adjudication for it, no conviction on my criminal record (just checked at the County Clerk's office to verify that)- but since I had deferred adjudication the Texas DPS considers that to be a conviction, which means I cannot recieve a Texas CHL until September 2012. I did not know this till I paid the $100 bucks for the CHL class at my local gun range, as I had really thought that my Class B misemeanor was a Class C, but it turns out that it was not....
IS it possible for me to obtain a CHL from any other state if I am a resident of Texas, that would be recognized in TEXAS so I could legally carry? I currently can carry in my Vehicle because of the Texas Castle Doctrine, but I want to be able to carry on my person. Any info would be Greatly appriciated. thanks Ya'll.
 
Short answer; No. If your state won't issue you a CCW neither will another. You've shown that you don't have good moral character. You've been caught and have to suffer the repercussions for your actions.
 
Don't know how old you are, but sounds to me like you need to grow up some before you should be allowed to carry a gun.
Sounds like a pattern to me, and that's not good.
 
self screwed....

yeah, you guys pegged me! one time hunting from a vehicle,- Class A, and 1 bad check from my bank account, class B- (thank you computer system for sending my direct deposit into someone elses account, taking nearly a month to straighten out..) boy I guess I really am a CAREER criminal... I guess you guys on here have never had anything go wrong? Glad you aren't the ones deciding whether or not I can purchase a firearm... Just think about how ridiculious it would be if you had a bad check because of a banking error, and it cost you an arrest, should you loose your privlege to carry? I don't think so. But you are entitled to your opinion.
 
roguejesse said:
Short answer; No. If your state won't issue you a CCW neither will another. You've shown that you don't have good moral character. You've been caught and have to suffer the repercussions for your actions.
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That isn't true. Quite a few states have denied thier own residents a CCL while Florida will issue them one. I personally had a Misdemeanor drug charge 20years ago when I was in college. I have had a clean record since, but Ohio still denied me a CCL, while FL approved me in 3 weeks. I am actually on BATFE's VAF list with a UPIN # to fast track all my purchases of firearms, including SBR and Suppressors. Penn, Ohio and a couple states up the east coast have been complaining about their residents getting a FL ccl while being denied in their own states.

As for the OPs eligibility, I don't know. Yes hunting from a vehicle is pretty reckless. The OP and others do have to realize that you have a greater responsibility when carrying. I have seen hot heads who should have never been issued one, still picking fights. It is like a ticking time bomb.

Try Florida. They will recongnize any hunter/gun safety course given by an approved NRA and other organizations. Look for my thread in the CCW section.

Here it is: http://www.usacarry.com/forums/conc...14977-received-my-out-state-fl-ccw-today.html
 
Funny how some of you guys scream your gawd-given 2a rights from the rooftops, no compromise, no interpretation - SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

Then you pile on a guy that can't get a license because of stupid admistrivia and a hunting violation.

Hypocrites.
 
Looks like you have the five-year wait from your 2007 adjudication in Texas. The arrest and adjudication is going to show up in another State so not only is your chance of getting a concealed carry permit from there not likely - the the Texas code is specific about non-residents and residents (you) carrying on a permit from another State (only non-residents can). Use the motorist protection law best you can. Expect to be hassled if pulled over and the LEO runs 10-27 and 10-29 on you and you have already informed him/her of the gun on board. Other posters here are correct - you need to clean up and stay outta trouble - next time might be a felony conviction which will definately crimp your ability to protect yourself and your family.
 
Yea, you pegged us. Hypocrites. People who choose to obey the law and look down on those who break the law. Bingo! We don't live in Ivory Towers either, but when someone asks what's wrong here and we make suggestions (like quit breaking the law, or grow up) we're the hypocrites?
 
Rather than being judgmental and "holier than thou", what does the Texas statute say?

Government Code 411.173:
(b) The governor shall negotiate an agreement with any other state that provides for the issuance of a license to carry a concealed handgun under which a license issued by the other state is recognized in this state or shall issue a proclamation that a license issued by the other state is recognized in this state if the attorney general of the State of Texas determines that a background check of each applicant for a license issued by that state is initiated by state or local authorities or an agent of the state or local authorities before the license is issued. For purposes of this subsection, "background check" means a search of the National Crime Information Center database and the Interstate Identification Index maintained by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

(c) The attorney general of the State of Texas shall annually:

(1) submit a report to the governor, lieutenant governor, and speaker of the house of representatives listing the states the attorney general has determined qualify for recognition under Subsection (b); and

(2) review the statutes of states that the attorney general has determined do not qualify for recognition under Subsection (b) to determine the changes to their statutes that are necessary to qualify for recognition under that subsection.

(d) The attorney general of the State of Texas shall submit the report required by Subsection (c)(1) not later than January 1 of each calendar year.
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GOVERNMENT CODE**CHAPTER 411. DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS

I don't see anything in that statute that says a license from another state that honors the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution more than Texas does is invalid because a Texas resident holds that license. Further evidence of this is here:

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USReciprocity.pdf

Get yourself a Florida or Utah license until Texas actually recognizes the US Constitution.

Flame away...
 
slinginLEAD said:
yeah, you guys pegged me! one time hunting from a vehicle,- Class A, and 1 bad check from my bank account, class B- (thank you computer system for sending my direct deposit into someone elses account, taking nearly a month to straighten out..) boy I guess I really am a CAREER criminal... I guess you guys on here have never had anything go wrong? Glad you aren't the ones deciding whether or not I can purchase a firearm... Just think about how ridiculious it would be if you had a bad check because of a banking error, and it cost you an arrest, should you loose your privlege to carry? I don't think so. But you are entitled to your opinion.
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You didn't ask if we thought it was right or not.

To get and keep your ccw, you have to quit breaking the law.
 
i would look into the fact that texas will honor another states while ur resident of texas... i know if your a resident or work in Indiana, you must have there license to carry then... just my 2 cents
 
Thanks for the friendly advice to those who posted some. I thought after the 1st 3 or 4 posts I was mistakenly on a Liberal anti-gun website. Anyway, I will look into the Flordia permit, as per I do have one active duty air force officer friend that has a Flordia permit, and is now getting a Texas one as well.
For those that didn't read my 1st post correctly- I have served my 5 years without for the hunting from a vehicle incident (which by the way, happens a lot down here in Texas- not that its right- I'm just saying....) It is the class B arrest which is screwing me. I would hardly consider myself a criminal.
 
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i might be okay without the checking account- since the banks direct deposit foobar is what burned me on the hot check thing... I already can carry legally in my vehicle in Texas thanks to our Castle Doctine signed into law by Gov. Perry in 2007, just don't have a permit to keep it on my person..
 
slinginLEAD said:
i might be okay without the checking account- since the banks direct deposit foobar is what burned me on the hot check thing... I already can carry legally in my vehicle in Texas thanks to our Castle Doctine signed into law by Gov. Perry in 2007, just don't have a permit to keep it on my person..
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My point was your problems involved irresponsibility with a checking account, a vehicle and hunting. They did not involve irresponsibility with a self-defense firearm.

For example, I think it is inappropriate to deny a tax felon a permit for a self-defense weapon. A denial of a right to own weapon for self defense should be more closely related to matters involving ownership of a weapon.
 
According to the 2nd Amendment it's pretty much inappropriate for the government to deny anybody that they feel is safe enough to walk the streets in public to be denied the ability to carry a firearm.
 
The word 'Texas' always gets my attention, and while I am reluctant to weigh in on this, I will.

My impression is that Slingin is not taking care of business: namely, how does a bank computer glitch turn into a hot check charge? I don't know the facts here, but I would have done anything needed to not have let that happen - a lawyer comes to mind here.

Also, knowing there are no refunds for the class or application, I would have, and did, carefully check my stuff before I applied.

A CHL is serious business, not cowboy town at Six Flags Park.
 
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