S&W sigma

seeley booth

seeley booth

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i'm thinking on buying a s&w sigma 9MM... does anyone own one if so what's the pros and cons
i held one it felt nice for $399 isn't a bad price
 
From what I've read and heard people say it's a dependable gun. It doesn't offer anything fancy, but it doesn't pretend to. Only major issue (and it's really minor) I've read about is a somewhat excessive buildup in the striking mechanism from the brass. The other issue is the trigger, of course there are probably ways to lighten it, depends on if you can allocate that into your cost if you pick it up.

Do you have a specific model number? If I remember correctly this is a used gun, new models are going for about $450-$480. There are a lot of used Sigma's out there for under $350, so you may want to shop around. Or try and haggle with the shop you're at. If you can print off a paper showing the same gun for $320, tell the guy you've got another shop willing to have it shipped in for $20, if he wants your money he should come down on the price. It's a white lie, in the fact you don't necessarily have the deal lined up...but it seems to me the guy's gouging you a bit in the price int he first place, buyer beware and what not.
 
The major issue with the signa is the trigger. Why pay to have the trigger fixed on a new purchase? Get a used Glock for the same money.
 
Cant help but to suggest my carry gun for your considration. Ruger P 95,9mm. If you are budget conscious and looking for a dead dependable pistola,at least give this one some consideration. They are dependable,double action first shot,single action for the remainder. Have a decent trigger pull in both,they HAVE A HAMMER, and most of the time you can find a new one for around 350 - 375$. They are a bit bulky to hide but there are ways. Good luck. God Bless.
 
I'm glad I live in Texas; they're currently on sale down here for $299 new. (If you don't mind the ugly trigger pull.)
 
The saying everything is bigger in Texas is completely false. Everything but the prices. Other than Dallas every place down there I've been to has been insanely affordable. If only it wasn't Texas I'd actually consider moving there. :sarcastic:

But seriously, even for $300 I think I'd pick something else. There are plenty of new and used guns you can get for that price that won't have such an unbearable trigger.
 
I used to shoot regularly with a guy who had many guns, one of which was the Sigma. Nothing but trouble. We occasionally shot each other's guns and I hated that firearm. One thing that really bothered me about it was that it often ejected the casings straight back into my face or down the front of my shirt. Nothing like a hot shell casing on bare skin! The thing was prone to jamming and both of us could shoot the centers out of the target with our Barettas and other guns but that Sigma was all over the place.
 
My son just got his CWP last month and I'm buying him a firearm like I did for my other son. He's looking at the Bersa Thunder 45. I found one for $365 new in the box and I really like it. It looks good, feels good, nice compact size and the trigger pull isn't too bad. If he decides that it's the one he wants I'll post my thoughts on it.
 
AvidshooterTX said:
I used to shoot regularly with a guy who had many guns, one of which was the Sigma. Nothing but trouble. We occasionally shot each other's guns and I hated that firearm. One thing that really bothered me about it was that it often ejected the casings straight back into my face or down the front of my shirt. Nothing like a hot shell casing on bare skin! The thing was prone to jamming and both of us could shoot the centers out of the target with our Barettas and other guns but that Sigma was all over the place.
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I always wear long sleeved collared shirt, with top button fastened when on the range. Hot brass on your bare chest has a way of making one jump. Not a good idea with a loaded pistol in your hand.
 
seeley booth said:
what about bersa
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I think I'd take a Bersa over a sigma.

I try to always have a little money set aside just incase I run across a good deal. I also tell all my shooting and gun buddies I'm looking. You'd be amazed at some of the deals you'll run across just networking. Once you figure out what your budget is just start asking everyone, visiting the gun shops every couple days, newspaper, ect. You'll run across a good deal on a nice used pistol.

I've picked up a Kimber Ultra CDP II used low round count mint for $600 and just the other day a friend called and had a full size HK USP .45, stainless, laser, and night sights for $600.

Also if you are looking for a good carry pistol in the $300 range I think the Ruger LCP have finally come down in price or even the Kel Tec P3AT is a great little gun in that price range.
 
seeley booth said:
i'm thinking on buying a s&w sigma 9MM... does anyone own one if so what's the pros and cons
i held one it felt nice for $399 isn't a bad price
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Are you interested to buying from me, Smith Wesson Sigma SW9VE 9mm come with two extra magazine and TTleather IWB ? Let me know.

We can do paper work through FFL, unless you are not felony posse firearm or not criminal.
 
I've had my SW9F (the original Sigma) since it came out and have been highly pleased with it. I used it in an IPSC team match and took second place with it. I don't think you'll go wrong buying one.
 
congratulations seeley. You will not regret the purchase. Do not pay mind to those who claim to be expert shooters with anything that has a trigger, but can't hit the target with a Sigma. I am on the short side of an average shooter and have no problems with the 3 VE series firearms I own. One suggestion, if you don't like the trigger, order a lighter weight striker spring from Wolf Springs. Installation is short work for a competant gunsmith and you will have a firearm that will have a trigger pull that will be slightly heavier that the Glock instead of the 10 lb pull that is installed at the factory. If you don't wish to go the Wolf route, the heavy pull of the Sigma will become lighter as the firearm is used. No doubt, better accuracy could be attained by a $1200. Gov. 45, but most shooters will never be able to deliver the accuracy that such a firearm is capable of anyway.
 
Guess the last poster was referring to me. When that first shell casing comes back and hits you in the head you'll wish you had listened to me. The Sigma is a POS. There are so many other good handguns why bother with it? But I see you already ignored the warnings and bought it anyway. Good luck. If you don't believe I can shoot check out my qualifying target in the pics section of this site shot with a 9mm 92FS. That was timed shooting at various distances in extreme Texas summer heat with a drill sgt. for a range master making it as stressful as he could. All strings were fired starting with double-action.
 
I was not doubting your shooting ability. And I am sorry about your sigma experience.

Sigma is one of the top selling models that S&W sells in their handgun line. There approval rating apparently is very high having very little complaints on the countless number of forums that I keep up with. I have been shooting for 45 years and a retired police firearms instructor. I have shot every type of revolver and every major brand of semi-autos. The sigma in of itself is hardly a POS. It is a decent gun with accuracy well within the range of its purpose. I found mine to be accurate, dependable, and durable.

Again, I am sorry about your bad experience. Check the forums though and you will find people with negative experiences regarding every gun on the market, including the almighty glock and it is truly almighty with an impeccable reputation, but none the less with fault. By the way, the high end Kimbers are not without faults either. On a personal note, I carried a Beretta during my last nine years on the police force. It was a great gun, but consistant to my point, the Beretta was not a hit with everyone. Usually the Beretta complainers were Sig fans.

Good luck with your shooting Texas.
 
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seeley booth said:
if it's a bad gun.. then why do our police and military carry one
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I have yet to hear of a LE agency or U.S. Military unit using a S&W Sigma. I have seen LE agencies using the S&W M&P as well as several models of S&W revolvers.

The Sigma is a very cheaply made gun. To use an analogy, it's like comparing a "Toyota Echo" (That would be the S&W Sigma) to a "Toyota Camary" (That would be the S&W M&P). Apparently S&W took too many short cuts and cut too many corners which made the Sigma the POS that it is today. Very sad, in that with a little consideration and minor modifications, the Sigma could be an excellent piece of equipment.




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