ron paul and guns

[eagleeyes]

he has my vote!

 

[Andrew17]

That's what I'm talkin about. Ron Paul 2012!

 

[crowsnake]

While I would love 2 C Ron Paul win. I know that voting 4 him will get Obama reelected. If we split our votes between him & Romney we will be giving Obama 4 more years 2 destroy our economy.

 

[eagleeyes]

While I would love 2 C Ron Paul win. I know that voting 4 him will get Obama reelected. If we split our votes between him & Romney we will be giving Obama 4 more years 2 destroy our economy.

i for one don't buy into that tired and old bs cliche about voting for him only gives obama a vote and if all the people who thought that would vote for him there is no doubt in my mind ron would have more votes than either obama and romney by a large margin

 

[Domineaux]

i for one don't buy into that tired and old bs cliche about voting for him only gives obama a vote and if all the people who thought that would vote for him there is no doubt in my mind ron would have more votes than either obama and romney by a large margin

I agree completely. One thing so many people do not understand is that Ron Paul would draw away nearly as many votes from Obama as he would from Romney.
There are a LOT of lifelong democrat voters, even 2008 Obama sycophants, that have gotten behind Ron Paul and the libertarian social views (government shouldn't be ruling social issues and attempting to legislate morals).

 

[JohnD13]

I like a lot of what Mr. Paul stands for, and some things, I wasn't in agreement with the man. But nobody can agree with anyone about everything. Ask my wife.

Unfortunately, Mr. Paul did not get the nomination. Voting for him will help the occupier in chief stay in Washington, in "his White House", not the "peoples" house you notice, and that is the last thing we need at this time. Mitt Romney may not be the perfect candidate, I don't think Regan is coming back, but he's the best choice we have this year. We can't afford to toss votes to a candidate with no chance of taking back the office, and I don't see Mr. Paul having that chance.

 

[SR40c]

i for one don't buy into that tired and old bs cliche about voting for him only gives obama a vote and if all the people who thought that would vote for him there is no doubt in my mind ron would have more votes than either obama and romney by a large margin

Unfortunately, math doesn't lie.

 

[eagleeyes]

the only reason ron paul may not have a chance is because of voting fraud and the ruling leeches have no use for an honest guy with the balls to stand against their corrupt policies they would much rather obama or romney who don't have the balls to stand up for what is right and just for the citizenry. both bama and romney make excellent minions and puppets for the crown as they easily bribed and bought..
my guess is they are pushing for romney to win but when they give us a choice between romney or bama you can know for sure either one is willing to do their biddings! and they always get what they want even if they have to lie cheat steal warmonger fly false flags or murder to get it. the assassination of jfk and many others from religious leaders like ghandi to political speakers like mlk and many scientists and whistle blowers ...... proves that point
at any rate ron paul will get my vote regardless even though he may well not win according to media in my heart i feel most americans as well as military and other nations in fact would rather see ron paul than the likes of obama or romney up in that oval office for good reason too ..folks need to wake up and realize they have been lied to tricked and deceived by those they were trained and conditioned to trust.. it's a shame television is used as a weapon of mass brainwashing and condition the masses to be obedient retards distracted by pure stupidity rather than educate and speak of real and more important issues facing our nation and the world today .....their war mongering fake patriotism and sleazy stupid entertainment is so ridiculous i got rid of my tv as i found it not worth wasting time watching as i moved on to bigger and better and more important concerns myself
don't get me wrong there are some interesting shows on tv few and far between but still i don't need to volunteer my focus on ridiculous bs and annoying advertisement but that's just me

 

[eagleeyes]

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[Rhino]

Paul doesn't have the support of the military. Not even close. I agree with him on many things, the 2nd amendment being one of them. But like many Americans there are some stances of his that prevent me from supporting him. Very few people are single issue voters. As JohnD13 pointed out, you'll never find anyone that you can agree 100% with, 100% of the time, so you search for the candidate that agrees with what you feel are your key, fundamental issues, and that then also supports most of your other issues as well. The reason Paul doesn't have the support of the military specifically is primarily his isolationist viewpoints. As I've stated here in other threads, Ron actually breaks my heart a little bit. He is so incredibly right on so many critical things that it's tragic to discover that he differs with me on fundamental issues that don't allow me to support him. I wish that weren't so.

 

[eagleeyes]

Paul doesn't have the support of the military. Not even close. I agree with him on many things, the 2nd amendment being one of them. But like many Americans there are some stances of his that prevent me from supporting him. Very few people are single issue voters. As JohnD13 pointed out, you'll never find anyone that you can agree 100% with, 100% of the time, so you search for the candidate that agrees with what you feel are your key, fundamental issues, and that then also supports most of your other issues as well. The reason Paul doesn't have the support of the military specifically is primarily his isolationist viewpoints. As I've stated here in other threads, Ron actually breaks my heart a little bit. He is so incredibly right on so many critical things that it's tragic to discover that he differs with me on fundamental issues that don't allow me to support him. I wish that weren't so.

perhaps you should take a look at these figures

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another link about ron paul and the military
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as well romeny nor obama served in military but ron paul did in fact serve

 

[Shoobee]

Ron Paul chickened like the rest of them in that primary when the RNC told everybody to circle the wagons around Romney-care.

Now it will simply be a matter of seeing whom the Independents feel more comfortable voting for this time around.

Whether they prefer the same person they voted into office the last time, or instead a flip flopper who paid 15% income tax on $20 million of taxable income in 2010 and has promised to make them just as rich as he is if they will just vote for him.

Reep's will always vote for reeps because they worship greed.

Demo's will always vote for demos because Reeps running for office ony win when there is some kind of a scandal first, like Monica Lewinsky.

It is the Indie's whom you have to wonder about which way is the wind blowing now. Too early to tell.

Nobody yet likes Romney very much. He is too greedy and too rich for most people's palates. His only hope is that someone will believe his promises.

 

[Rhino]

perhaps you should take a look at these figures

Perhaps you should read them more carefully yourself. And you should learn how to distinguish between a statistic, an empirical fact and rhetoric. That isn't popularity, it's highly subjective and it leaves out several key facts. You also don't understand rules on donations from military members. I'm retired military. So is my wife. And I still work military contracts, so I'm well aware of how military members think because I'm in close contact with them on a regular basis. Don't try to lecture others on topics that you have little knowledge of. You might make yourself look foolish.

 

[eagleeyes]

hi shoobee dooobie doo good to see you
but i am a registered republican have been since i first got my voters card decades ago... but i have voted for dems at times as well as republicans throughout my voting history in fact every president i voted for became prez except the last general election i didn't bother voting at all as i realized the deck is stacked and wasn't going to play with a stacked deck nor was obummer or mccain worth the trip
however being i really like ron paul i will go to the poll and put my vote in for him regardless

 

[BluesStringer]

I really don't care who votes for whom in this election, as I don't see enough difference between the two establishment candidates to make any substantive difference in the long-run. However, I will point out a little factoid that I've never seen anyone else mention. Let's say that Ron Paul manages to, by some miracle, win the popular vote in a write-in campaign. As far-fetched as that fantasy is, how much farther-fetched is the notion that your states' Electoral College delegations will abide by the popular vote if they are not mandated to by state law? They are not mandated to here in Bama, and I'll guaran-dang-tee ya that they won't go against the Republican establishment that voted them into the College. I don't know what every states' laws are concerning Electoral delegations adhering to popular vote, but it wouldn't take but one or two state delegations to ignore it to make Romney still "win" regardless of Paul's "winning" the popular vote.

The thought that Paul has any chance whatsoever is pure sophistry, but hey, if it makes someone feel better to vote for him, have at it. No skin off my teeth.

Blues

 

[Wyldekard]

Perhaps you should read them more carefully yourself. And you should learn how to distinguish between a statistic, an empirical fact and rhetoric. That isn't popularity, it's highly subjective and it leaves out several key facts. You also don't understand rules on donations from military members. I'm retired military. So is my wife. And I still work military contracts, so I'm well aware of how military members think because I'm in close contact with them on a regular basis. Don't try to lecture others on topics that you have little knowledge of. You might make yourself look foolish.

Rhino, she is convinced facts and reality are extrinsic to any matter under discussion that she is involved in. As far as making herself look foolish, that ship sailed so long ago it's beyond the horizon!

 

[lostone1413]

RP is the ONLY ONE who since he was first elected that has supported the Constitution 100% Romney?? Just a White Husama that is really about it

 

[lostone1413]

as well romeny nor obama served in military but ron paul did in fact serve

I agree Romney ran off to Europe so he missed the draft during Viet Nam. The most decorated Marine in the history of the Corps General Butler said words to the effect It gets him how easy the leaders of this country can send your kids off to die in combat But when they where military age they did everything that they could do so they didn't go off to war Very very true what he said

 

[K7lvo]

Who cares what Ron Paul thinks! (Unless you live in Texas...)

 

[Hoganbeg]

Who cares what Ron Paul thinks! (Unless you live in Texas...)

I do. I think even those who intend to vote for others might actually learn something from considering his viewpoint. He is that extremely rare thing, a politician who says what he means and means what he says, and has the voting record to prove it. If nothing else his position is a reminder of just how far we have fallen from the ideals upon which this country was founded.