Rolling Stone Article - I guess according to them all guns are dangerous...

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Okay, I am paraphrasing, the actual article is The 5 Most Dangerous Guns in America:

The 5 Most Dangerous Guns in America Pictures - Pistols | Rolling Stone

Their list:

Pistols
Revolvers
Rifles
Shotguns
Derringers

Is there anything that they aren't calling dangerous? I guess muzzle loaders are okay... No wait wouldn't they be rifles too? Oh well, I guess we should just ban everything and call it a day, right Rolling Stone?
 
Hmmm. Machine guns didn't make their list. Perhaps they are too ignorant to be trusted about anything? Never read the rag. Tripe.
 
I wonder if any of these morons have armed guards or own/carry guns themselves? But then they are the responsible ones and can be trusted with these "dangerous" pieces of steel! :rolleyes:
 
Did I miss something? Of course those guns are dangerous, but the lib's ignorance shows by making people believe that some guns are more dangerous than others. All guns, all knives, all cars, all sharp sticks are dangerous when not used by responsible people. That's why we have safety rules and training. Maybe if we're lucky, Darwin will cull some libs from the hurd.
 
I can't believe they didn't include the BFG 9000.
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I really can't understand how describing all guns is a story about the most dangerous guns.
 
Guns aren't dangerous, they're objects... only people are dangerous. Dangerous people can make any object into a weapon, therefor, if we intend to prevent violence we must eradicate people first. See how that works...? This concept is so fundamental it escapes most intellectual beings. "Higher species"? Pppfff, yeah right! I hate people......
 
gunnerbob said:
Guns aren't dangerous, they're objects... only people are dangerous. Dangerous people can make any object into a weapon, therefor, if we intend to prevent violence we must eradicate people first. See how that works...? This concept is so fundamental it escapes most intellectual beings. "Higher species"? Pppfff, yeah right! I hate people......
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Agree in principle, but guns are dangerous... just like many other tools that can cause injury or death if mishandled. That said, guns do not create violence or crime.
 
aacx22 said:
Agree in principle, but guns are dangerous... just like many other tools that can cause injury or death if mishandled. That said, guns do not create violence or crime.
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How are the guns themselves dangerous? You just said, more or less, that it is only when an object is mishandled or intentionally used as a weapon is it "dangerous". By this logic, objects aren't dangerous... they're just objects. A car isn't dangerous until it's used to run somebody down or the driver otherwise wrecks, otherwise it's just a big hunk of metal and plastic lookin' spiffy. A hammer isn't dangerous until I hit my thumb or crack somebody's skull open with it, it's human interaction with their surroundings and specifically with objects that makes them "dangerous". Again, there are no dangerous objects... just dangerous people.
 
gunnerbob said:
How are the guns themselves dangerous? You just said, more or less, that it is only when an object is mishandled or intentionally used as a weapon is it "dangerous". By this logic, objects aren't dangerous... they're just objects. A car isn't dangerous until it's used to run somebody down or the driver otherwise wrecks, otherwise it's just a big hunk of metal and plastic lookin' spiffy. A hammer isn't dangerous until I hit my thumb or crack somebody's skull open with it, it's human interaction with their surroundings and specifically with objects that makes them "dangerous". Again, there are no dangerous objects... just dangerous people.
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If my 3yo mishandles a banana, he probably won't hurt himself much. Things like guns, toxins, chemicals, instruments with points or blades, things that get very hot or very cold, etc... these things (imo) can be considered dangerous because mishandling them can result in serious injury or death. It's still the fault of the people who should be properly managing them. But, not all items have the same risk potential.
 
aacx22 said:
If my 3yo mishandles a banana, he probably won't hurt himself much. Things like guns, toxins, chemicals, instruments with points or blades, things that get very hot or very cold, etc... these things (imo) can be considered dangerous because mishandling them can result in serious injury or death. It's still the fault of the people who should be properly managing them. But, not all items have the same risk potential.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Bob probably wasn't talking about 3 year olds with access to loaded guns.
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aacx22 said:
If my 3yo mishandles a banana, he probably won't hurt himself much. Things like guns, toxins, chemicals, instruments with points or blades, things that get very hot or very cold, etc... these things (imo) can be considered dangerous because mishandling them can result in serious injury or death. It's still the fault of the people who should be properly managing them. But, not all items have the same risk potential.
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Again, every one of those things you mentioned don't become "dangerous" until there's human interaction. Lay a knife on the table and wait for it to cut you, it won't... it's not dangerous until you pick it up and mishandle it or thrust it towards somebody else. The deciding factor is human interaction, people are dangerous and not the inert objects we create or interact with. As far as the banana goes, if your child choked on a bite too large... would it be dangerous then?
 
gunnerbob said:
Again, every one of those things you mentioned don't become "dangerous" until there's human interaction. Lay a knife on the table and wait for it to cut you, it won't... it's not dangerous until you pick it up and mishandle it or thrust it towards somebody else. The deciding factor is human interaction, people are dangerous and not the inert objects we create or interact with. As far as the banana goes, if your child choked on a bite too large... would it be dangerous then?
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This is irrelevant. When people talk about whether or not guns are dangerous, they are not talking about the possibility of it becoming sentient and trying to take over a gun shop to set its brothers free... they are always talking about a gun in the hands of a person. A child walking around with a loaded gun is a more dangerous situation than a child walking around with a banana that he or she may choke on, right?

Man Teaches Gun Safety By Shooting Himself In The Head (VIDEO) | The Libertarian Republic

Okay... so here is a great example of mishandling. Dude's been drinking? Check. Dude's a moron. Check. But it's the nature of the gun that made it dangerous. Had he wanted to show his girlfriend that a squirtgun had no water in it, the result would have been different, even though he was wrong.

I know you're going to want to say his stupidity was the thing that got him killed, but it's not really one or the other, it's both together. I'm not saying that guns are bad. I am saying that because of what they are capable of, they require proper respect and care. And before you say that guns are not capable of shooting without human interaction, humans are also not capable of shooting without something that shoots.
 
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