Road trip!

telpinaro

telpinaro

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I'm planning to drive from Colorado to Indiana for Christmas. My permit(s) are recognized in all states but Illinois, of course. Obviously, I'm going to be looking up the laws in each state, and printing copies of anything I might need.

Is there anything in particular that I need to know for any of those states? (Kansas and Missouri are the others... I'll probably spend the night in Missouri) Any quirks I should check in to? There's a lot to go through, and I don't want to miss anything. For instance, Handgunlaw.us says carry is allowed in restaurants that serve alcohol, but doesn't mention that you aren't allowed to drink any. Alcohol is not a concern on a road trip, clearly, but if I stop for lunch or something I want to know if I need to not go in to bar areas or whatnot. I already know that when travelling through Illinois (where I will NOT be stopping!) I must not be able to defend myself in any way, shape or form in order to transport a gun through there!

It should be an interesting trip... Only a couple people know I have guns, and they probably don't realize I actually carry them! :eek::haha:
 
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/illinois.pdf
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Page 9: RV/Car Carry Without A Permit/License
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Section 40
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Explains the allowed carry by a non-resident a concealed handgun while traveling in Illinois. Making sure the law is in full force would be necessary for this aspect to be pertinent to you at the time in the state.
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Otherwise federal law does allow and would cover you, but your weapon would have to be unloaded and stored appropriately.
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I travel to the West suburbs of Chicago to visit my brother and find it very concerning that I must be unprotected do so. Hope you have a safe trip and that all goes well. Obey the laws and don't acknowledge the presence of any weapon, Illinois is a NO notify state. The less they know the better off I think you will be.
 
dogshawred said:
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/illinois.pdf
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Page 9: RV/Car Carry Without A Permit/License
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Section 40
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Explains the allowed carry by a non-resident a concealed handgun while traveling in Illinois. Making sure the law is in full force would be necessary for this aspect to be pertinent to you at the time in the state.
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Otherwise federal law does allow and would cover you, but your weapon would have to be unloaded and stored appropriately.
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I travel to the West suburbs of Chicago to visit my brother and find it very concerning that I must be unprotected do so. Hope you have a safe trip and that all goes well. Obey the laws and don't acknowledge the presence of any weapon, Illinois is a NO notify state. The less they know the better off I think you will be.
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One of the first things I checked! None of the states require notification, luckily.
 
Illinois, outside of Chicago, is not that bad. Certainly better than Maryland or New Jersey. Here is the ISP site:
Illinois State Police Home Page

Notice this section Transporting firearms:

HOW CAN I LEGALLY TRANSPORT OR
POSSESS AMMUNITION?
Illinois law requires residents possessing ammunition
have a valid FOID card. The location of ammunition
being transported, including ammunition being
transported in loaded magazines, is not regulated if the
fi rearm is possessed or transported lawfully. However,
when transporting DO NOT store a loaded magazine
in the firearm’s well, clear the chamber and clear a
revolver’s cylinder of ammunition.

IS IT LEGAL TO HAVE AMMUNITION IN THE
CASE WITH THE FIREARM?
Yes, as long as the fi rearm is unloaded and properly
enclosed in a case.

CAN I KEEP A FIREARM IN MY HOTEL ROOM
WHEN I TRAVEL?
Yes, assuming no local ordinance applies. The critical
question is how the firearm was carried into the room
and transported in a vehicle. Those actions must be
done lawfully. It is unlawful to leave a firearm accessible
to a minor under the age of 14 years. Firearms should
be stored in a secure location, locked box/container, or
inoperable with a trigger lock
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I already know that when travelling through Illinois (where I will NOT be stopping!) I must not be able to defend myself in any way, shape or form in order to transport a gun through there!
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So, you see,you can defend yourself in Illinois!:biggrin: You can stop for gas or food in Illinois. Lots of misconceptions about the state.

And note,being a non resident of Illinois ,you do not need a FOID card. You can have the gun INSIDE of your vehicle. 2 of my nieces live in the state and I visit every few years. Never a problem.No FOPA problem.
I usually spend 4 or 5 days with the gun locked away.

Have a great,safe trip!:smile:
 
Telpinaro,

Things I try to look for in each state:
- Do I have a duty to inform a police officer when detained? If not, I shut the hell up about anything but the traffic stop.
- Am I allowed to carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol even if I'm not drinking?
- Are there places that the particular state disallows me to carry in?
- Am I allowed to carry more than one firearm at a time?
- Are there mag restrictions?

This is a quick and dirty list for looking up what you are allowed and not allowed to do.

The other thing I do is keep a binder in the car of all the reciprocity agreements between the state of issue of your permit and the state it is honored in. If you can help the cop do his job, things will go quicker during a detainment. (not that I'm advocating doing his job, however, I could do it better)
:)

Be safe, and have fun!

wolf
 
Coyote Blue said:
Illinois, outside of Chicago, is not that bad. Certainly better than Maryland or New Jersey. Here is the ISP site:
Illinois State Police Home Page

So, you see,you can defend yourself in Illinois!:biggrin: You can stop for gas or food in Illinois. Lots of misconceptions about the state.

And note,being a non resident of Illinois ,you do not need a FOID card. You can have the gun INSIDE of your vehicle. 2 of my nieces live in the state and I visit every few years. Never a problem.No FOPA problem.
I usually spend 4 or 5 days with the gun locked away.

Have a great,safe trip!:smile:
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Thanks! Though I remember checking the State Police FAQ's and found this:

Non-residents must be legally eligible to possess
or acquire firearms and ammunition. Non residents
are not required to have an Illinois FOID Card. It is
recommended that in order to be in compliance with all
statutes, non-residents transport all firearms:
1. broken down in a non-functioning state; or
2. not immediately accessible; or
3. unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying
box, shipping box, or other container.

I do think I may have some remaining animosity towards the state... that's where the Navy has boot camp! lol While fun, December/January is a very miserable time to be in boot camp.

wolf_fire said:
Telpinaro,

Things I try to look for in each state:
- Do I have a duty to inform a police officer when detained? If not, I shut the hell up about anything but the traffic stop.
- Am I allowed to carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol even if I'm not drinking?
- Are there places that the particular state disallows me to carry in?
- Am I allowed to carry more than one firearm at a time?
- Are there mag restrictions?

This is a quick and dirty list for looking up what you are allowed and not allowed to do.

The other thing I do is keep a binder in the car of all the reciprocity agreements between the state of issue of your permit and the state it is honored in. If you can help the cop do his job, things will go quicker during a detainment. (not that I'm advocating doing his job, however, I could do it better)
:)

Be safe, and have fun!

wolf
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Thanks for the list! I was kind of working my way through it anyway... first thing I checked was if I was required to inform! I can be in restaurants that serve alcohol, but still trying to find out if I have to avoid bar areas and whatnot. The binder is a good idea... I was planning on printing stuff out so I could remind myself of what I'm allowed to do in what state anyway, so a section just for cops in case I get stopped is a good addition. Not that I generally speed anyway, but it is hard not to in Kansas...



One thing I'm trying to find but haven't seen yet... Do any of the states require that the gun be registered to me? Colorado does not allow registration of firearms... it's actually against the law to maintain a database like that, apparently.
 
Right, in CA you can transport if it is locked in a box, chained to an illegal and the ammo has to be in another car....two miles behind you. Well, almost.
 
subvet69 said:
Right, in CA you can transport if it is locked in a box, chained to an illegal and the ammo has to be in another car....two miles behind you. Well, almost.
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And it has to be in at least 8 separate pieces. Preferably 8 separate boxes. lol
 
The biggest "hiccup" in California law regarding transportation of firearms is that if the officer requests to inspect the firearm, the law requires you to allow them access.
 
telpinaro said:
Good. The state I travel to most is, unfortunately, CA.
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I live 25 miles from the California state line. You can store your guns at my place while you visit the Golden State, and pick 'me up on your way home. No, it's no problem. Really.
 
NavyLCDR said:
The biggest "hiccup" in California law regarding transpiration of firearms is that if the officer requests to inspect the firearm, the law requires you to allow them access.
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I can always tell when you're still deployed. They obviously have a government spell-checker on board your ship.
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POST IL CCW LAW
From the IL State Police website; Illinois State Police | Concealed Carry FAQ

"Out-of-state residents who want to carry a concealed firearm on their person must obtain an Illinois Concealed Carry License to lawfully carry a concealed firearm in Illinois. In order for out-of-state residents to be eligible for an Illinois license, their state’s concealed carry license laws must be substantially similar to those of Illinois. The Illinois State Police will establish rules to identify the elements necessary to meet the substantially similar requirement.

Out of state residents are granted a limited exception to lawfully carry a concealed firearm within a vehicle if they are eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of their state or territory of residence and are not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law. This rule became effective immediately.

If the non-resident leaves his/her vehicle unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of the Firearm Concealed Carry Act."
 
In Illinois you can carry concealed, in your vehicle. If you have a carry permit in your state, and you are not a felon.

If you leave you vehicle, you have to lock the vehicle, or have the weapon in a locked case.

You can read the rules on the Illinois state patrol web site at

Illinois State Police | Concealed Carry FAQ

Look under the heading Where can business owners or property owners obtain information about required signage?
 
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