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nosreme

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BluesStringer

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I'm taking this chemo-treatment that, among other annoying side-effects, makes my vision a little bit blurred, and when I looked at the title of the thread and saw it said, "Reviled F a g," I thought the thread-starter was nogods instead of nosreme. So I just agreed with the title and didn't open the thread until I saw it again about 45 minutes later and realized my mistake. It was nosreme who's the reviled f a g. I still agree with the title.

Blues
 

Stengun

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Howdy,

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Now that's funny!

What's even funnier if you look at what the teabaggers "claim" they believe in most came from Bill Clinton's campaign promises in '92.

My message to the teabeggers: in the words of the rock group Steam...... "Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey hey hey
Goodbye!!!


Paul
 

gunnerbob

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Howdy,



Now that's funny!

What's even funnier if you look at what the teabaggers "claim" they believe in most came from Bill Clinton's campaign promises in '92.

My message to the teabeggers: in the words of the rock group Steam...... "Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey hey hey
Goodbye!!!


Paul

How is it exactly, that you became such a Leftist? I would have hoped that somebody like you would be smart enough to realize that both sides of the political isle are playing We The People for fools... Instead, you're too busy jerkin' your wiener to a pic of Barry & Crazy Joe.

"Sad but true."

~Blues, that's funny as hell! Lol!~
 

Stengun

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Howdy gunnerbob,

How is it exactly, that you became such a Leftist? I would have hoped that somebody like you would be smart enough to realize that both sides of the political isle are playing We The People for fools... Instead, you're too busy jerkin' your wiener to a pic of Barry & Crazy Joe.

"Sad but true."

~Blues, that's funny as hell! Lol!~

When you turn 30, come back and explain your POV to me.

Jerkin' off while looking at pics of men? I'm sure you have a lot of experience doing that but not much else.

Paul
 

BC1

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Howdy,



Now that's funny!

What's even funnier if you look at what the teabaggers "claim" they believe in most came from Bill Clinton's campaign promises in '92.

My message to the teabeggers: in the words of the rock group Steam...... "Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey hey hey
Goodbye!!!


Paul
So then we're to assume you prefer liberals and gun-grabbers? Yes? Like giving away your hard-earned money? Or are you a recipient?
 

gunnerbob

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Howdy gunnerbob,



When you turn 30, come back and explain your POV to me.

Jerkin' off while looking at pics of men? I'm sure you have a lot of experience doing that but not much else.

Paul

So, you're not going to answer the question...? Why would my POV change when I turn 30? Is that when you became a liberal? What, couldn't make it on your own so you turned to the government for hand outs? My experiences? Ha, I've been more places and done more things than you have 'ole boy... at least, things that mattered. It's interesting you imply age as a token of wisdom... that there, shows how dumb you are.

Go hang out on the Brady forums, stengun... unless of course you enjoy being laughed at.
 

Oldgrunt

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I keep hearing people rag the Tea Party and about how those people are out in left field. Truthfully, I never could understand what the problem was (is) with them so I looked up their basic tenets. If any party was that bad, I wanted to know why. I copied the following from a Tea Party site and, for the life of me, I don't understand all the hype. Everything written about them is the same thing most of us claim to want for the country but are, instead, ridiculing them for. Would someone explain to me what is so wrong with the Tea Party. I think some just like to complain about everything in general without regard to our real problems. Is it that some disagree with those leading the Tea Party, on an individual basis, or some even unaware of the tenets of the party or unable to understand them? All of those tenets, at face value, seem to be the only solutions to the problems we are facing today so, what's the beef?

Ten Core Beliefs of the Modern-Day Tea Party Movement



“Be sure you put your feet in the right place, then stand firm.”

Abraham Lincoln



Preamble: The Tea Party Movement is an all-inclusive American grassroots movement with the belief that everyone is created equal and deserves an equal opportunity to thrive in these United States where they may “pursue life, liberty and happiness” as stated in the Declaration of Independence and guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States.

No one is excluded from participation in the Tea Party Movement. Everyone is welcomed to join in seeking to achieve the Tea Party Movement goals, which are as follows:

1. Eliminate Excessive Taxes - Excessively high taxes are a burden for those exercising their personal liberty to work hard and prosper as afforded by the Constitution. A fiscally responsible government protects the freedom of its citizens to enjoy the fruits of their own labor without interference from a government that has exceeded its necessary size, scope and reach into the lives of its citizens.

“Collecting more taxes than is absolutely necessary is legalized robbery.” --Calvin Coolidge

“A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.” --Thomas Jefferson

“Any tax is a discouragement and therefore a regulation.” --Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.


Also see: What is the Tea Party; Tea Party Ideas; Tea Partiers; Voice of the Tea Party

2. Eliminate the National Debt - By implementing fiscally conservative policies at all levels of government, progress can be made toward eliminating the U.S. National Debt. Massive increases in the National Debt have created and continue to create a huge burden for the next generation of Americans, thus imperiling the country’s short-term and long-term economic health and prosperity.

“You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today.” --Abraham Lincoln

“If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.” --Thomas Paine, 1776

“As on the one hand, the necessity for borrowing in particular emergencies cannot be doubted, so on the other, it is equally evident that to be able to borrow upon good terms, it is essential that the credit of a nation should be well established.” --Alexander Hamilton, 1790

Tea Party Platform continued:

3. Eliminate Deficit Spending - All deficit spending must be eliminated immediately. We insist that government representatives at all levels maintain a fiscally responsible budget and balance the books as would be expected of any American business.

“Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.” --George Washington

“A penny saved is a penny earned.” --Benjamin Franklin

“Tomorrow, every Fault is to be amended; but that Tomorrow never comes.” --Benjamin Franklin

Tea Party Platform - Home of the Tea Party Movement Platform continued:

4. Protect Free Markets - America’s free enterprise system allows businesses to thrive as they compete in the open marketplace and strive toward ever better services and products. Allowing free markets to prosper unfettered by government interference is what propelled this country to greatness with an enduring belief in the industriousness and innovations of the populace.

“That some achieve great success, is proof to all that others can achieve it as well.” --Abraham Lincoln

“You cannot build character and courage by taking away a man’s initiative and independence.” --Abraham Lincoln

“The government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.” --Ronald Reagan

Tea Party Platform continued:

5. Abide by the Constitution of the United States - The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land and must be adhered to without exception at all levels of government. This includes the Bill of Rights and other Amendments to the U.S. Constitution and their provisions designed to protect states’ rights and individual liberties.

“A general Dissolution of Principles & Manners will more surely overthrow the Liberties of America than the whole Force of the Common Enemy.” --Samuel Adams, 1779

“The Constitution is the guide which I will never abandon.” --George Washington

“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” --Abraham Lincoln

Tea Party Platform continued:

6. Promote Civic Responsibility - Citizen involvement at the grassroots level allows the voice of the American people to be heard and directs the political behaviors of our representatives at both the local and national level so they, in turn, may be most effective in working to preserve the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of this country’s citizens.

“The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.” --Patrick Henry

“To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.” --Abraham Lincoln

“Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light” --George Washington

“All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.” --Thomas Jefferson

Tea Party Platform - Home of the Tea Party Movement Platform continued:

7. Reduce the Overall Size of Government - A bloated bureaucracy creates wasteful spending that plagues our government. Reducing the overall size, scope and reach of government at both local and national levels will help to eliminate inefficiencies that result in deficit spending which adds to our country’s debt.

“My observation is that whenever one person is found adequate to the discharge of a duty...it is worse executed by two persons, and scarcely done at all if three or more are employed therein.” --George Washington

“If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them, they must become happy.” --Samuel Adams, 1802

“Energy and persistence conquer all things.” --Benjamin Franklin

Tea Party Platform continued:

8. Believe in the People - The American people, given their guaranteed freedoms, will thrive in a democratic, capitalist environment which allows individuals to strive toward ever greater achievements, innovations and the efficient production of needed and valued goods and services.

“Industry need not wish.” --Benjamin Franklin

“Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth.” --Abraham Lincoln

“The people will save their government, if the government itself will allow them.” --Abraham Lincoln

Tea Party Platform continued:

9. Avoid the Pitfalls of Politics - American politics is burdened by big money from lobbyists and special interests with an undue influence on the peoples’ representatives. The Tea Party movement is seen as a threat to the entrenched political parties and thus is the continual target of smear campaigns and misrepresentation of its ideals. We choose not to respond to these attacks except to strongly and explicitly disavow any and all hate speech, any and all violence as well as insinuations of violence, and any and all extreme and fringe elements that bring discredit to the Tea Party Movement. We are a peaceful movement and respect other's opinions and views even though they do not agree with our own. We stand by the Tea Party beliefs and goals and choose to focus our energies on ensuring that our government representatives do the same.

“I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts.” --Abraham Lincoln

“Honesty is the best policy.” --Benjamin Franklin

“Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.” --George Washington
 

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Aw poor you, did a snake crap in your corn flakes? You'll never understand. What the H are you doing on a 'gun site'? Did the moms against guns cancel your membership?
 

nosreme

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Ten Core Beliefs of the Modern-Day Tea Party Movement ...

Nobody could take reasonable issue with any of those, and of course those really aren't anywhere near the core of the objections to the tea party proper or tea party members and politicians. The problems, and the root of their apparent long-overdue collapse, are their rhetoric, disgusting and dishonorable tactics, disdain for constitutionally-guaranteed human and individual rights and unconscionable impact of their agenda items on people, their religious-based pandering, their cherrypicking from and highly-selective reading of the constitution, their unending attempts to save the country by destroying it, and their gratingly insufferable (and completely misguided and unrealistic) sense that only their approach and nothing else can assure the future of the country.
 
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Bikenut

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Nobody could take reasonable issue with any of those, and of course those really aren't anywhere near the core of the objections to the tea party proper or tea party members and politicians. The problems, and the root of their apparent long-overdue collapse, are their rhetoric, disgusting and dishonorable tactics, disdain for constitutionally-guaranteed human and individual rights and unconscionable impact of their agenda items on people, their religious-based pandering, their cherrypicking from and highly-selective reading of the constitution, their unending attempts to save the country by destroying it, and their gratingly insufferable (and completely misguided and unrealistic) sense that only their approach and nothing else can assure the future of the country.
There you have it Ladies and Gentlemen... an example of the psychological phenomenon of "projection" since the part in bold is the definitive description of President Obama and his followers.

http://psychology.about.com/od/theoriesofpersonality/ss/defensemech_7.htm

Projection

Projection is a defense mechanism that involves taking our own unacceptable qualities or feelings and ascribing them to other people.
 

MI .45

MI .45
The left grabbed the narrative of the Tea Party... perverted the message beyond recognition, promoted that version via the MSM, distorted it even further by leftist pundits, and finally regurgitated all the misrepresentations created by these socialist groups and called that "The Tea Party".
 

nosreme

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There you have it Ladies and Gentlemen... an example of the psychological phenomenon of "projection" since the part in bold is the definitive description of President Obama and his followers.

What Is Projection? - Defense Mechanisms

Projection

Projection is a defense mechanism that involves taking our own unacceptable qualities or feelings and ascribing them to other people.

This reminds me that I should have added how they love to reduce issues, no matter how complex, to simple slogans ("projection"--wow, and it even has the advantage of being academic-sounding which should fool lots of people) and engage in ad hominem attacks when criticized or challenged because many of the grass roots tea partiers are incapable intellectually of dealing with complex issues. But they do love to throw around labels and slogans.

BTW, I can't stand Obama. But then I understand, unlike TPs (and its PR network, Fox "News," that you can't get very far endlessly yapping about personalities rather than issues.
 
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Bikenut

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Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
There you have it Ladies and Gentlemen... an example of the psychological phenomenon of "projection" since the part in bold is the definitive description of President Obama and his followers.

What Is Projection? - Defense Mechanisms

Projection

Projection is a defense mechanism that involves taking our own unacceptable qualities or feelings and ascribing them to other people.
This reminds me that I should have added how they love to reduce issues, no matter how complex, to simple slogans ("projection"--wow, and it even has the advantage of being academic-sounding which should fool lots of people) and engage in ad hominem attacks when criticized or challenged because many of the grass roots tea partiers are incapable intellectually of dealing with complex issues. But they do love to throw around labels and slogans.

BTW, I can't stand Obama. But then I understand, unlike TPs (and its PR network, Fox "News," that you can't get very far endlessly yapping about personalities rather than issues.
Even more projection about simple slogans (YES WE CAN anyone?) with implying the elite are the smart ones because others are incapable of intellectually dealing with complex issues... all astoundingly and predictably wrapped in the Saul Alinsky tactic of ridicule.
 

Oldgrunt

Active member
I have not been, or otherwise classified myself as, a member of the Tea Party but, after looking into the tenets of the party, I feel like I am more in tune with them than what is called the Republican Party today. I apparently have failed to see the "dishonorable tactics, disdain for constitutionally-guaranteed human and individual rights, etc." I have, however, seen that from the Democratic Party and, unfortunately, from some in the Republican Party. I disagree with your assessment that the Tea Party will destroy the country in their effort to save it. Destroy what? What has not already been destroyed by the Democrats and Obama? How would implementing the TP tenets destroy the country? As you said, no one can (or should) take issue with them but should be trying to enforce them. I know your thoughts on religion and you are entitled to your opinion but I also believe that you are a minority member of our society in your disbelief. I have read many things pertaining to religion in the country and how God was referenced many times during the compilation of all of our founding documents and thought. No one has yet been able to persuade me that God did not have a hand in our formation but that is a discussion for a later time. You disagree with the TP approach to solving our problems but no one has come up with a better approach. I much prefer to follow their leading than that of the current do-nothings we have in Congress. If there was a better solution I would be all for it and love to see our country recover from years of misguided leadership.
 

BC1

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Even more projection about simple slogans (YES WE CAN anyone?) with implying the elite are the smart ones because others are incapable of intellectually dealing with complex issues... all astoundingly and predictably wrapped in the Saul Alinsky tactic of ridicule.
Sammy Davis Junior's autobiography was titled "Yes I Can!" O stole it. I wonder if he can tap????
 

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