Revealing Classified Material

[mappow]

How could more than 76,900 classified military and other documents be in the hands of a junior enlisted. In less things have drastically changed, you ONLY had access to "Need to Know". Was this all INTEL? Anybody know or comment on?

 

[redboneshadow]

Inept comes to mind.:sarcastic: :hang3:

 

[Booga]

Documentation is being increasingly computer based. It's easier to make, search, and review.
I'm sure that these items needed to be reviewed and updated by the front line soldiers involved with the situations. Thus, they gave all front line soldiers the same basic access. It was too cumbersome to limit access by individual soldier, so they probably limited access defined by their role on the battle field.

This would open up a lot of front line information up to everyone on the front line who has time to look.

Security restrictions take an immense amount of time to administer properly if you want to keep refined groups of people out. It takes almost no time at all to grant permissions to large groups of people and it makes the user's life easier. I should know, it's my job to advise people on these matters. I'm over-simplifying here, but hopefully my point gets across.

 

[Cocked _and_Locked]

The guy was an analyst, so he had access. Access, generally speaking, is very strictly controlled. But once you have access, you may have access to vast amounts of information.

 

[ronwill]

When I was in the Air Force an entire Technical order would be classified. This "book" may contain several hundred pages each, of which, would be classified if removed from the binding. The same for several pages of communication. It adds up very quickly.

 

[Oldgrunt]

Documentation is being increasingly computer based. It's easier to make, search, and review.
I'm sure that these items needed to be reviewed and updated by the front line soldiers involved with the situations. Thus, they gave all front line soldiers the same basic access. It was too cumbersome to limit access by individual soldier, so they probably limited access defined by their role on the battle field.

This would open up a lot of front line information up to everyone on the front line who has time to look.

Security restrictions take an immense amount of time to administer properly if you want to keep refined groups of people out. It takes almost no time at all to grant permissions to large groups of people and it makes the user's life easier. I should know, it's my job to advise people on these matters. I'm over-simplifying here, but hopefully my point gets across.

When I was in the military, I had access to classified documents, however, I only had access to certain information that pertained to my unit and it's operations. As an analyst, this man, without a doubt, had access to a considerable amount of information. I don't understand how he gained access to a lot of the stuff that came out. He would have had to have a very high level position and access to other agencies information. He would have also had a lot more rank than just being a PFC. I don't believe he had access to everything that has been revealed and that there are a lot more people out there responsible for the leaks. This young fellow will probably wind up being the scapegoat for a lot of others who will come out clean. Still, he should be prosecuted. Sad state of affairs!:sad:

 

[Cocked _and_Locked]

The problem with "access" generally speaking, is it makes it very easy to get ahold of more stuff you may no strictly be supposed to be authorized for. Maybe not necessarily what you are using or handling in your job, but it's there. That will probably be one aspect of the charges he faces: unauthorized access.

For example, he may have had the combination to a safe where the report he worked on was stored in the 1st drawer, and that's all he was supopsed to be dealing with. Maybe there was tons of raw intel in the 2nd drawer the more senior analysts were working on, which he helped himself to when nobody was looking.

Just a WAG.

 

[S&W645]

The problem with "access" generally speaking, is it makes it very easy to get ahold of more stuff you may no strictly be supposed to be authorized for. Maybe not necessarily what you are using or handling in your job, but it's there. That will probably be one aspect of the charges he faces: unauthorized access.

For example, he may have had the combination to a safe where the report he worked on was stored in the 1st drawer, and that's all he was supopsed to be dealing with. Maybe there was tons of raw intel in the 2nd drawer the more senior analysts were working on, which he helped himself to when nobody was looking.

Just a WAG.

That is what compartmentalization is supposed to control. And somebody failed at the vetting.

 

[Cocked _and_Locked]

What failed for sure was the reliability and trustworthiness of the individual in question.

We can only make vauge speculation on the facts of the matter. Anything else will only be known to the investigators.

 

[Nightmare45]

What happen to need to know, don't matter anyway since your president would not have been allowed any access to documents because of his association. I do however agree one private (right). What happend to treason and hanging shooting for same.

 

[Grognard Gunny]

The guy was an analyst, so he had access. Access, generally speaking, is very strictly controlled. But once you have access, you may have access to vast amounts of information.

There lies my problem. It was the Press that "taggged" him an analyst. Now, it could well be that things have changed since I was in.... but, typically you were in the "collection" mode for your first tour. You then graduated to collection supervisor/reporter during your next few years. Finally, you were accorded the "honors" of being an analyst. After a few years at that you were a senior analyst and trainer for the field.

GG

 

[vettefreak]

the MOS title has analyst in it

Intelligence Analyst (35F)

 

[Nightmare45]

I find it amazing that our POS president could not have held a security clearance base on his associations.

 

[Grognard Gunny]

the MOS title has analyst in it

Intelligence Analyst (35F)

In this case, sounds like an exercise in title hyping. As in "Sanitation Engineer" rather than Garbage Collector.

Just sayin'.

GG

 

[S&W645]

UCMJ: Espionage & National Security Cases Such As WikiLeaks is interesting reading. I don't recall dad ever being as angry as when John Walker and son were found to have been passing secrets. CTs just didn't do that sort of thing. The Navy's Biggest Betrayal | U.S. Naval Institute

 

[handgonnetoter]

I find it amazing that our POS president could not have held a security clearance base on his associations.

Welcome to 21st century American politics. I agree with you. Nor could he have served in the military, like many of us here did, without a birth certificate!:no: