Recomemdations for 12Ga home defense load


raycogxxx

New member
00 Buck or 04 Buck for. Gun is Maverick 88 18.5", pistol grip/retractable stock.
 

gunnerbob

PEW Professional
I have OO Buck in the 12ga's at the moment but I keep some #4 buck around too.

The benifit to #4 Buck is that you have more pellets... duh right. So, lets say you had to take a shot down your hallway, which may be more than 12 feet... I'd feel better knowing I have 27 or so pellets filling the hallway rather than 9-12.

And here's another thing to consider... wether you choose OO Buck or #4 buck... the guy you shoot isn't likely to get up after either one.

One example of the usefulness of #4 Buck... small, but an example none the less. The Durham, NC SWAT team uses #4 buck as their shot of choice. I know this b/c my father is the Armorer there.

Regardless, just make sure you hit the perp down the hall.
 

Firefighterchen

OC for Tactical Advantage
I was told 00 buck will make it through most walls, while 04 buck usually won't. I live in an apartment, so 04 buck for me. If I lived in a house, 00 for me. This is what multiple gun shops told me, so take the information as you see fit.
 

vn6869

New member

B2Tall

Stirrer of the Pot
If you're using the pistol grip w/o the stock (like I do) then whatever load you go with it should be the low-recoil stuff. In my Mossy 500 I use a combination of Remington OO and Federal Hydra-Shok slugs (low-recoil for both).
 

Rhino

New member
I use #1 buck for what I feel is the best compromise between stopping power and reduced overpenetration. 00 buck, to me, is too likely to kill a family member or pet in the next room, or maybe even a neighbor. #1 buck reduces that chance somewhat while giving up almost nothing in stopping power. It is somewhat hard to find though, so I usually have to order it in bulk.
 

golddigger14s

SFC At Fort Lewis, WA
Remington Self Defense, combo of #2 and #4 in each shell. I'm also thinking of getting some bean bag loads, so if the bean bag doesn't work I follow up with the real ammo.
 

G50AE

Well-known member
I use #1 buck for what I feel is the best compromise between stopping power and reduced overpenetration. 00 buck, to me, is too likely to kill a family member or pet in the next room, or maybe even a neighbor. #1 buck reduces that chance somewhat while giving up almost nothing in stopping power. It is somewhat hard to find though, so I usually have to order it in bulk.

O or #1 seems about right to me.
 

nightwolf1974

New member
for in the building engagements, I have low brass #8 birdshot in my SGs.....for an engagement upto 25' I have #4 buck and 000 buck...all 2.75" rounds. AND YES, low brass birdshot WILL KILL easily at 20 feet. go onto YouTube and look up Demolition Ranch's birdshot vs buckshot vs slug video.
 

nightwolf1974

New member
and for those who rant about that birdshot is NOT an effective killer.........just shoot some!!!! I have shot 2000+ rounds of shotgun shells while hunting and testing shot patterns, penetration, ect., ect......and a load 1&1/8th of lead shot going 1200fps with do lethal damage to the chest of a target enough to stop the target WITHOUT shooting through walls and killing a bystander in another room.

one test we did was walking through a house that was going to torn down and shooting pumpkins with both buckshot and birdshot in the rooms. the buckshot penetrated one wall and entered another room almost everytime, where as the low brass birdshot didn't.
 

G50AE

Well-known member
go onto YouTube and look up Demolition...

Demolition was an excellent tag-team. They could present themselves as either heals or faces. Their two best feuds were with Legion of Doom (Naturally) and Powers of Pain (The Warlord and The Barbarian). At times they had Mr. Fuji as their manager. They also briefly had three members so they could do six-man tag matches and Survivor-Series type matches.

Unfortunately they wrestled their prime years in the wrong federation, as they were WWF wrestlers and the WWF did not place nearly enough emphasis on tag team matches. They would have been better off had they wrestled in the rival promotion Ted Turner's World Championship Wrestling better know as WCW. WCW placed more emphasis on tag team matches, even at one point having three different tag team titles.
 

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