swanson311
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I got a Reckless driving in 2006 am I screwed until 2014 for getting a CPL?
Reckless driving in 2006, am i screwed
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If it's reckless driving as defined under MCL 257.626 http://www.michigan.gov/documents/ri-012_7736_7.pdf then yes you are barred for 8 years.
accidentalfelon
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Apparently in Michigan driving too fast means your family's life isn't worth spit anymore.
If the police in this country would stand up and quit enforcing these unconstitutional laws we could defeat this.
You're already half way there. You refuse to enforce ANY on fellow officers all the time.
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In Michigan, Reckless Driving means "a person who operates a vehicle......in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property..." If you do that then I guess your family and everyone else's family isn't worth spit....
accidentalfelon
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With that definition I would tend to agree. Do you lose your right to worship and free speech too?
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No, but those first amendment rights can be limited and regulated by law and the Supreme Court just like your second amendment rights.
accidentalfelon
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Like I said, by law and the Supreme Court. Not hard to understand. Free speech has limits and how you worship can be limited also. Varioius forms of religious practice is prohibited. Mormons can't legally have multiple wives and try offering up a young virgin on an altar and see how far you get.
accidentalfelon
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The supreme court could tell you that marriage is no longer legal. But that doesn't make it constitutional
You need to read Jefferson on lawful vs constitutional
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No I don't need to read Jefferson or anyone else. The way separation of powers works has been developed over the past 200+ years with many opinions and arguments. Andrew Jackson supposedly responded to a Supreme Court decision that, "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!," meaning that the Supreme Court couldn't enforce their rulings and he wasn't going to. Over the years the question has been settled with the Supreme Court deciding "constitutionality" of laws and the other branches accepting that. A Supreme Court opinion may not make it constitutional in your mind but it does in the current law of the land. You can disagree all you like but push it far enough and you'll become what is referred to as a "jail house" lawyer.
accidentalfelon
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Here's what Jefferson had to say about it:
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
The author of our country's original law should hold the most weight.
Just because it was DONE by a lawful entity does not make it lawful.
Using that logic all catholics should endeavor to coverup child molestation.
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I'll say it again, it doesn't really matter what Jefferson or any of the other supposed "authors" of our original law thought. What is important is what it's become and how it's administered. Most of these arguments are like a dog chasing it's tail, you cover a lot of ground but it doesn't accomplish anything. BTW I looked back over your previous posts and read about your problem in Chicago. The story points out the main problem with so called "Constitutional" carry. No matter what the charge is for carrying, the important thing is what happens if you have to use it. You may think you are the "good guy" and the other guy is the criminal, but the authorities will view you as the bad guy because you have an illegal weapon. Remember, it's your word against his and if you can't prove your case you are SOL because of your crime of carrying.
accidentalfelon
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I would tend to agree if history hadn't produced the likes of Paul Revere and Rosa Parks. Somewhere there are men and women of courage who will affect change where it is needed.
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swanson311
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Damn this thread has went deep
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Swanson311 is right, this thread is getting deep, now you're comparing yourself to Paul Revere and Rosa Parks. Paul Revere and Rosa Parks were both part of a much bigger movement, they weren't just individuals that decided to try to change things on their own. Change takes courage but it also takes common sense.
accidentalfelon
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They were members of larger movements only because there were others of courage who stood up with them.
Both were individual lawbreakers who are remembered because they took a chance on an individual basis.
Read some history and learn just how few it took to rally support during the Revolution. The entire revolution was orchestrated by less than 50 men of courage who used the internet of their day (pamphlets and papers) to garner support.
We have failed our generation.
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I hope you aren't because I have a DUI in 07 wrote a long thoughtful letter to my gunboard and sent it away.... Still waiting to hear back, don't see why they wouldn't especially considering the crap I went through to get my licence back.... I have reformed myself and informed them of this in the letter. We'll see in about 3-4 more weeks
It depends on whether it was a first offense or not. If it was then you might be okay since that is only a three year restriction. If it was a second or subsequent offense then it is eight years which would put you out until 2015. I'm wondering about your statement that you had a hard time getting your license back, that doesn't sound like a first offense.
It take's a lot nowadays to get your licence back even on first offense, it is taken out of the courts hands and put into a mandatory setting with the DMV. I think my letter provided the point they wanted to hear because they have sent letters out to the references I listed for them to write back about my character and rehabilitation.
