Reciprocity between NC & FL CWP

[hobbyshooter]

Not sure where to post this, but recently I was issued a warning ticket by an NC highway patrol because my non-resident FL CWP had no address on it.

I contacted the Sheriff department explaining I had done everything that they had told me to do but still ended up with this warning ticket. He sided with the officer and told me it had to have my new address on it, matching my drivers license.

I contacted the compliance agent in Tallahassee kindly requesting I be issued a new license with my NC address printed on it and she told me that NO Fl. CWPs have addresses on them anymore and there are NO exceptions.

I forwarded both emails to each other pointing out the flaw and that NC is basically not honoring their Reciprocity agreement but neither has any interest in responding.

Yes I could just get an NC CWP but stuff like this really bothers me and I figured USACarry might want to update their map with a note that while NC claims to honor Fl. CWPs there is likely a conflict that would lead to at minimum, a warning ticket.

 

[misunderstood]

If i am not mistaken nc accepts all states but have to be resident. I dont think they honor any non resident permits.. i could be wrong.

 

[hobbyshooter]

The sheriffs department told me they do honor non-resident permits and suggested that to me when I moved up to NC. That is why I went through getting it issued vs. going through getting an NC permit.

I did what they told me to do but now they are saying it must have an address printed on it that matches your drivers license. Florida no longer prints addresses on resident, nor non-resident permits.

 

[misunderstood]

I would ask what regulations in nc law ask for address to be a must. I figured if they honor a permit they have to accept it as the other state issued. Never heard of this problem before. Keep us updated if you dont mind.

 

[JimPage]

NC may be different, but in most states (all that I have knowledge of) require a resident of that state to have resident license. For example as a PA resident I wouldn't be able to use and FL non resident license in lieu of a PA license.

 

[Sh00tn Butt]

here in NC our DL address has to match our CWP .. so what i am thinking is the LEO's here figure if you live here in the state you need to comply with our laws .. if you were passing thru, i don't think there would be a problem ..
here is a link that might help you out .. its all very confusing to me too ..

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[apvbguy]

Not sure where to post this, but recently I was issued a warning ticket by an NC highway patrol because my non-resident FL CWP had no address on it.

I contacted the Sheriff department explaining I had done everything that they had told me to do but still ended up with this warning ticket. He sided with the officer and told me it had to have my new address on it, matching my drivers license.

I contacted the compliance agent in Tallahassee kindly requesting I be issued a new license with my NC address printed on it and she told me that NO Fl. CWPs have addresses on them anymore and there are NO exceptions.

I forwarded both emails to each other pointing out the flaw and that NC is basically not honoring their Reciprocity agreement but neither has any interest in responding.

Yes I could just get an NC CWP but stuff like this really bothers me and I figured USACarry might want to update their map with a note that while NC claims to honor Fl. CWPs there is likely a conflict that would lead to at minimum, a warning ticket.

1. FLA CWFL do not have addresses on them any more
2. if you have become a NC resident you need to get a NC permit, you are a resident there not a resident of FLA and I believe the law says you need a nc permit

 

[SandHornet]

Just be compliant and get a NC permit, it will set officers at ease that you're not trying to circumvent NC laws by having a CWP from another state.

 

[mrjam2jab]

Not sure where to post this, but recently I was issued a warning ticket by an NC highway patrol because my non-resident FL CWP had no address on it.

I contacted the Sheriff department explaining I had done everything that they had told me to do but still ended up with this warning ticket. He sided with the officer and told me it had to have my new address on it, matching my drivers license.

I contacted the compliance agent in Tallahassee kindly requesting I be issued a new license with my NC address printed on it and she told me that NO Fl. CWPs have addresses on them anymore and there are NO exceptions.

I forwarded both emails to each other pointing out the flaw and that NC is basically not honoring their Reciprocity agreement but neither has any interest in responding.

Yes I could just get an NC CWP but stuff like this really bothers me and I figured USACarry might want to update their map with a note that while NC claims to honor Fl. CWPs there is likely a conflict that would lead to at minimum, a warning ticket.

As stated, FL doesn't print addresses on their permits anymore. Since NC honors all permits it doesn't matter that there isn't an address on it.

NC may be different, but in most states (all that I have knowledge of) require a resident of that state to have resident license. For example as a PA resident I wouldn't be able to use and FL non resident license in lieu of a PA license.

As a PA resident you can carry with any state's permit that PA honors. You do not have to have a PA LTCF just because you live in PA.

1. FLA CWFL do not have addresses on them any more
2. if you have become a NC resident you need to get a NC permit, you are a resident there not a resident of FLA and I believe the law says you need a nc permit

As a NC resident you can carry with any state's permit that NC honors. You do not have to have a NC permit just because you live in NC.

Just be compliant and get a NC permit, it will set officers at ease that you're not trying to circumvent NC laws by having a CWP from another state.

Just to set them at ease? Really? He's not doing anything wrong...that's all that matters.

2 drawbacks I can think of with living in NC and carrying on a non-resident permit:
1) Gun free school zones - you are only exempted here if you have a permit from the state the school is in. You will like be running thru a number of these since you will be living there.
2) Without having a NC permit, you will have to apply to your sheriff for a purchase permit everytime you wanted to buy a gun. A carry permit eliminates that need.

 

[mappow]

YOU MUST have an adderss filed with the Fla Dept of Ag, license dept and ensure your proper address is listed. NC will accept a non-res from Fla but info attached to the Fla CWP must be current. Concealed Weapons or Firearm Program - Division of Licensing, FDACS

 

[apvbguy]

YOU MUST have an adderss filed with the Fla Dept of Ag, license dept and ensure your proper address is listed. NC will accept a non-res from Fla but info attached to the Fla CWP must be current. Concealed Weapons or Firearm Program - Division of Licensing, FDACS

that may or may not be the case but it is irrelevant what is on file because FLA DOES NOT PUT AN ADDRESS ON THE CWFL. the NC people wanted to see a permit with an address on it.

 

[lsmurphy]

I moved from FL to TN. TN permit is for concealed hangun only whereas FL is a concealed weapons permit.......entirely different.

FL permit covers all legal concealed weapons, TN does not, TN does not recognize other weapons as FL does. For example: a 4" blade folded in TN is legal, a 4 1/4" blade folded is illegal, punishable (IIRC) by 1 year in jail and $1K fine. All knives in TN over 4" must be open carry and sheathed.

IIRC FL requires an address change within 20 days of a move, TN requires a TN permit within 6 months of residency. I would imagine it will be the same in NC.

I have been detained by NC cops, there is the law and then there is the LAW.

You want to play games? it's your choice.

 

[Pir8fan]

1. FLA CWFL do not have addresses on them any more
2. if you have become a NC resident you need to get a NC permit, you are a resident there not a resident of FLA and I believe the law says you need a nc permit

Actually, that's a loophole in our laws. NC residents are not required to have an NC permit. We can get by with a non-resident permit from another state. The legislature is making motions to require NC residents to obtain an NC permit even if they have a valid non-resident permit from another state. NC wants the ability to track how many CHL holders there are in the state.

 

[apvbguy]

Actually, that's a loophole in our laws. NC residents are not required to have an NC permit. We can get by with a non-resident permit from another state. The legislature is making motions to require NC residents to obtain an NC permit even if they have a valid non-resident permit from another state. NC wants the ability to track how many CHL holders there are in the state.

thanks for that info, NC is unique that it allows residents to carry with an out of state permit

 

[NavyLCDR]

thanks for that info, NC is unique that it allows residents to carry with an out of state permit

NC is not unique in that regard. Missouri is at least one more example:

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"Out-of-state residents cannot obtain a Missouri concealed carry endorsement.However, nothing prohibits Missouri residents from obtaining a concealed​

carry permit from another state, and those permits would be valid in Missouri."

 

[NavyLCDR]

Just be compliant and get a NC permit, it will set officers at ease that you're not trying to circumvent NC laws by having a CWP from another state.

1. He is in compliance with NC laws.
2. He should probably get a NC permit for the reasons in post #9 - Federal Gun Free School Zone Act and purchasing handguns.
3. Many officers will only be at ease if only LEOs are allowed to carry firearms. Should we just leave our guns at home to put those officers at ease as well? I don't live my life by what makes law enforcement officers comfortable. Why isn't complying with the law enough?
4. OP is not apparently trying to circumvent any NC laws. I would guess he is simply saving some $$$, time and hassle.

Why can't it just be enough the he complies with the law?

 

[apvbguy]

NC is not unique in that regard. Missouri is at least one more example:

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"Out-of-state residents cannot obtain a Missouri concealed carry endorsement.However, nothing prohibits Missouri residents from obtaining a concealed​

carry permit from another state, and those permits would be valid in Missouri."

you showed me, are they any other states like mizzou and nc?

 

[NavyLCDR]

you showed me, are they any other states like mizzou and nc?

Probably, but I'm not going to look at each 50 state's laws to find out. If you are a present in a state and want to carry a gun, you should know that state's laws. I know Washington's, and remember a few others from looking up answers to specific questions.

 

[hobbyshooter]

1. He is in compliance with NC laws.
2. He should probably get a NC permit for the reasons in post #9 - Federal Gun Free School Zone Act and purchasing handguns.
3. Many officers will only be at ease if only LEOs are allowed to carry firearms. Should we just leave our guns at home to put those officers at ease as well? I don't live my life by what makes law enforcement officers comfortable. Why isn't complying with the law enough?
4. OP is not apparently trying to circumvent any NC laws. I would guess he is simply saving some $$$, time and hassle.

Why can't it just be enough the he complies with the law?

Absolutely I'm not trying to skirt any laws.

As I mentioned in my first post: As soon as I knew I was going to be buying a house here I contacted the Raleigh Sheriffs department. Raleigh Sheriffs department is who told me to just apply for a Florida non-resident permit. So I did. Raleigh Sheriffs department was unaware that Florida permits no longer have addresses on them, and I didn't think anything of it.

My post here is not me complaining about my situation. It's just to publish a potential issue to others that may find themselves in a similar situation. If you ask the Raleigh Sheriffs department, don't expect them to give a totally valid answer.

 

[lsmurphy]

Absolutely I'm not trying to skirt any laws.

As I mentioned in my first post: As soon as I knew I was going to be buying a house here I contacted the Raleigh Sheriffs department. Raleigh Sheriffs department is who told me to just apply for a Florida non-resident permit. So I did. Raleigh Sheriffs department was unaware that Florida permits no longer have addresses on them, and I didn't think anything of it.

My post here is not me complaining about my situation. It's just to publish a potential issue to others that may find themselves in a similar situation. If you ask the Raleigh Sheriffs department, don't expect them to give a totally valid answer.

Q: I want to buy a handgun from a friend. Do I need to get any sort of permit to buy it?

A: Yes. All handgun transfers in North Carolina, whether through a dealer or via private sale, or presented as a gift, require that the intended recipient of the handgun obtain a Pistol Purchase Permit from his/her local Sheriff. You must go to your Sheriff, apply for a Pistol Purchase Permit (one per handgun you wish to purchase), and pay a $5 fee. When you take possession of the handgun you must present the Permit to the seller, who is required to retain it forever. If a Pistol Purchase Permit is not presented, both the buyer and the seller can be convicted of a Class I Misdemeanor.

As of 8/10/04 a new law was enacted, which permits someone with a valid North Carolina Concealed Handgun Permit to purchase a pistol without the need to obtain a Pistol Purchase Permit.



Q: You said that I have to get a Pistol Purchase Permit to receive a handgun as a gift. My father wants to give me a handgun for my 21st birthday. Do I really have to get a permit for a birthday gift?

A: Yes. NC law makes no distinction between purchases or gifts, and makes no distinction between strangers or relatives when it comes to transfer of a handgun. You must go through the legal process in order to obtain a handgun in North Carolina. There are no exceptions, except for Concealed Handgun Permit holders.

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I live in the TN/NC line...........NC is full of crazy-ass laws like this.

Not to mention the high taxes.


Enjoy your stay.

TN is MUCH more gun friendly.