Random... USACarry has been blocked on the AF computer network.

[gunnerbob]

Yep, I checked it today and was denied access. USACarry was blocked and categorized under: Weapons; Suspicious

This may or may not be my fault... :yes4:

 

[prccw]

What does AF stands for? If it means Air Force, it's a federal offense to use government computers for personsl use.

 

[gunnerbob]

What does AF stands for? If it means Air Force, it's a federal offense to use government computers for personsl use.

No, it's not.

 

[BluesStringer]

Yep, I checked it today and was denied access. USACarry was blocked and categorized under: Weapons; Suspicious

This may or may not be my fault... :yes4:

If you go fartin' around and get the rest of the internet shut down, I'ma be pissed!

As long as you keep to the Air Force or Armed Forces networks though, we're still cool Bro.

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:​

Blues

 

[telpinaro]

Yep, I checked it today and was denied access. USACarry was blocked and categorized under: Weapons; Suspicious

This may or may not be my fault... :yes4:

I suppose we are a suspicious lot... :wink:

 

[SR40c]

I suppose we are a suspicious lot... :wink:

If we aren't, we should be.

 

[Rhino]

What does AF stands for? If it means Air Force, it's a federal offense to use government computers for personsl use.

Don't know where you got that idea. First of all, not all computers on government networks are government owned. Second, personal use is allowed on a limited basis, subject to restrictions. Third, it's not a federal offense unless you commit some kind of crime with said use.

I'm actually surprised it took them this long to block it.

 

[prccw]

Don't know where you got that idea. First of all, not all computers on government networks are government owned. Second, personal use is allowed on a limited basis, subject to restrictions. Third, it's not a federal offense unless you commit some kind of crime with said use.

I'm actually surprised it took them this long to block it.

Where I got that idea? From my service as a National Vice President of the American Federation of Government Employees. The largest government workers union. I've seen too many cases of misuse of government property. Even if the computer is not government owned, the network is.

 

[BluesStringer]

Where I got that idea? From my service as a National Vice President of the American Federation of Government Employees. The largest government workers union. I've seen too many cases of misuse of government property. Even if the computer is not government owned, the network is.

Typically, when a matter of law is stated around here, and then challenged, the best response is to cite the statutes that make the original statement true and accurately reported. Got any statutes?

Just as a suggestion, if you do come up with a code section that says that it is a felony to "misuse government property," you will need to find the Definitions section and show where "misuse" is described as simple "personal use." Best of luck with that.

Blues

 

[Rhino]

Where I got that idea? From my service as a National Vice President of the American Federation of Government Employees. The largest government workers union. I've seen too many cases of misuse of government property. Even if the computer is not government owned, the network is.

Your union needs to fix it's information then, because it's wrong. I've been working in IT for many years, most of that on government systems, to include computer security. I've probably been working with government systems longer than you have, certainly when it comes to information security. Your annual IA training should cover using government systems for personal use. If it doesn't, or if it's actually teaching you that such use is a federal offense, your IA rep needs to be fired. And as Blues suggested, you aren't going to come up with a statute for that because it doesn't exist. There are some uses that would be a federal offense, such as using it for commercial purposes, engaging in illegal activity such as downloading copyrighted content, or using the system for personal use for more than just a limited amount of time, which is generally defined as the sum total of breaks and meal periods. But mere personal use is not banned, and there has never been a federal offense strictly for using a computer for non-work related activity. Computer security offenses are charged under other statutes or regulations. For the military it will be Article 92 of the UCMJ. For others it will simply be an administrative action resulting in employment discipline or termination. Anything at the criminal level would typically be prosecuted for the applicable crime committed, not for the computer use. Those would be things such as copyright violations, theft of services, etc.

 

[gunnerbob]

Where I got that idea? From my service as a National Vice President of the American Federation of Government Employees. The largest government workers union. I've seen too many cases of misuse of government property. Even if the computer is not government owned, the network is.

Well then you need to call SECAF and tell him that people have been able to watch Youtube, get on Facebook and check their personal emails for yeeeaaarrrssss...............

 

[wolf_fire]

If we aren't, we should be.

Especially looking like your avatar.

 

[telpinaro]

Well then you need to call SECAF and tell him that people have been able to watch Youtube, get on Facebook and check their personal emails for yeeeaaarrrssss...............

Yeah... I'm pretty sure every member of the military would be in federal prison if it were a crime. Aaahh, the long nights spent on hampsterdance and albinoblacksheep watching stupid videos while waiting for something to happen...

 

[jhodge83]

Well then you need to call SECAF and tell him that people have been able to watch Youtube, get on Facebook and check their personal emails for yeeeaaarrrssss...............

i managed the web proxies for the naval hospital networks. we were directed to open streaming media and social media sites by the HMFIC.

 

[Oldgrunt]

Where I got that idea? From my service as a National Vice President of the American Federation of Government Employees. The largest government workers union. I've seen too many cases of misuse of government property. Even if the computer is not government owned, the network is.

Regardless of your position, I would venture a guess that you have probably been as guilty as anyone else in misusing government computers. The temptation is too great for one not to indulge in a little playful activity. If everyone who has done so were to be disciplined, there would be a long line to wait in.